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Apache: Air Assault reviews and impressions
OK everyone who DLed A:AA tell us what you think...the good, bad, and the mediocre.
got this from the yuplay site: The Xbox demo kicks major ass, ..it's outstanding and my Ace Edge works very well with Apache: AA. "Nuff said, I gotta get back to the chopper. |
Just this second finished work, noty even turned xbox on, came here first. Saw this....
xbox now on within seconds and demo downloading!!! |
Okay last mission of demo is about half way trough. First you have to start with training difficulty and when you pass your first mission you open realistic which is must for this. First impression was, how would I put it... I waited too much. BUT after I opened realistic difficulty I was sold. Great sim even tho theres lots of learning ahead because of bop controls are stuck real deep in to my head. Graphics are like in bop, nothing special so far. But this is only a demo. Missions one training and two real missions are quite easy, with realistic too. Few trys because of crashing. I'm totally buying this!
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So far I am loving the demo. There will be a learning curve for those not familiar with helos. For ps3 there are a few options for flying and looking because of the motion in the DS3, you can free look with controller or you can fly with movement. You can fly from any view including gunner, there is flight controls for both positions so no need to keep switching view.
I was having a time with figuring out the controls but I believe I got them except for one. How do you fire flares? Also I love you can shoot from BVR. This is how if you haven't figured it out yet. For PS3 Select target, (L1 & X), hold up on the d-pad to get a satellite view of target and then hit R1 to fire missile you can hold it there if you want to watch it blow up. I am glad the save screenshot feature is back. Thanks Gaijin I am going to buy, this is a defining moment for flight fanatics again thanks to these developers. One thing I like is when you auto hover L3 click, you can hold down bottom d-pad and move right stick and your gun will move with your head and you can fire and zoom. Very well done IMO. Now if I can just figure out how to fire flares. :) |
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Loving it thus far. Thought it'd be easy to control so went straight for realistic controls, managed to barrel roll and hit the floor quite quickly.
Slowly picked them up now and really getting into it. Will be playing this alot more tonight to master controls. Great job gaijen, im loving it |
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Having similar fixed wing mentality control issues (backwards? what is backwards?!) but other than that I'm enjoying it so far. The gun camera and FLIR can look spookily real at times, helicoter appears to handle like a helicopter and there's plenty to look at. The music however, is awful, I already switched it off (better with whup whup whup anyway). I'll be buying it just for the over the 'shoulder' apache view, which is very nice when it zooms in. (cockpit is pretty good too). |
I really like the demo. I havn't bothered to try training difficulty, went straight for realistic (doesn't need unlocking). Control is challenging but I'm really starting to get the hang of it and doing some sweet moves. Its too easy now lol I need Sim mode.
Ive notice a few things on the xbox version. All three xbox joysticks (Av8r, fly9 and Ace edge) have their own control scheme. You can select to use any of them for any control device even the game pad lol which makes you spin around until you half press the right trigger. The dead zone is far smaller when using the joystick profiles and you don't have to press a button to activate freelook. One thing I don't like is the throtle is Ace combat style if you use the gamepad. I really need BoP style set throttle. This means you cannot have 118% torque at the same time as rotating because the right stick is circular in it x-y axis. Also the fact that they moved the activate free look to the d pad down means you can't controll the left stick at the same time. I was happier it being on the right stick button. These things mean I will have to buy a stick now. Ive found a really anoying bug too. Its in the sound effects. When you kill a bunch of ememy troops on the ground, very often their machine gun sound effect (which is way too loud in my opinion) will become stuck on leaving this very anoying sound, to make it worse you cant fly away from the noise, It seems to follow you along. I guess I noticed it because I turned the in game music off. Hope this is just a demo bug because it is VERY anoying. I actualy found exactly were the sound was coming from, landed, stopped the engine and the went to outside view when I spotted three dead guys right beside me. |
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My only gripe is lack of 2 player co op in 1 apache, i know anton said technical things prevented this, but i dont see how..... It worked well enough in bad company and bad company 2 ;) All in all i love this demo! |
I love the demo so far. Everything is awesome. Is realistic the highest difficulty? Or is there a sim mode like IL-2?
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This demo is awesome. Ace Edge works well, camera controls are right on, looks good, sounds great and the replays... I couldn't ask for more:shock:.
I'm out the door and down to the store for a preorder to support Gaijin.:!: |
What are the flight stick options for xbox demo?
I see only one for ps3 and it's not AV8R, its Cyborg. |
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Saitek AV8R-02 Ace Edge Those are the flight stick options for the xbox demo :) |
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I love it!! The Africa mission really shows some scope with lots of travel and objectives. I switched straight to realistic and love the way you can throw the Apache around with some great acrobatic swinging turns.
One odd thing, I tried a fast strafe to destroy the downed Apache and hit a building. The building collapsed and the game showed the collapsed wreckage with the message "your killer" Oh and Winny is spot on, the music is dire. If anyone wants an MP3 rip of Blue Thunder OST I will PM the RS link |
I love the demo. My best experiance was when i was flying really low and my left pylon (wing whatever its called) actually ripped off, so i only had half the ammo. Then my right engine got shot up a few minutes later. After that my tail rotor got hit and i started to spin. I was low at the time so i landed it, but it rolled on to its side with a spectacular crash rotors hitting ground, dust everywhere effect. It was really cool. I was in third person at the time to check out my damage because i seen in the cockpit it said "RIGHT PYLON CONTROL, RIGHT ENGINE DAMAGED". I didn't know about free look, so i switched to third when my tail rotor was hit. THe realism was incredible. Hopefully i can round up some money for this game. First i need MoH and Black Ops though. (sorry, can't resist shooting ZOMBIES with an M16 XD, especially while im playing as JFK or NIXON)
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So, since i never payed attention, is it pretty much confirmed that the only aircraft is the APACHE? Because i seen on the website it was like AIRCRAFT: A-10, APACHE and others...
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360 demo
Great demo I cant wait for this to release Im really looking forward to the co-op.
The only thing that is bugging me is I want to change the yaw from one stick to another (xbox 360 pad) but it looks like you cant customise your controls, do the devs read theses forums ? If so please add customisable controls for console players. |
ProTip: Don't launch Hellfire to close to friendlies.............
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Im having trouble with the "free look" camera. It doesnt seem to work!! This is on the
AV8R on the 360. Anyone else know how to do it? Must admit, its much smoother and easier with the joystick :D EDIT - I've sorted it, was a silly error on my part. Loving it with my AV8R, makes it more fun :P |
I just had my tail fly off. span for a bit, then blew up. I also took a head on RPG hit, while in cockpit view. It was amazing. My heli just blew up. I also managed to do a few barrel rolls while flying through a valley.
May first crash was in cockpit view when my tail rotor hit a tree. I started spinning then the ground came up. Epic. Can we fly the BLACKHAWK? My favorite helo is the Huey, but i geuss thats out of the question for sure. |
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Not sure if we can fly the blackhawk...maybe in MP co op, but i doubt it. We can fly the Hind though. Huey would be nice :D |
Maybe we can start a vote for DLC. I only played for half an hour and can't play for 2 days. I hope to play a few hours on the wweekend. It is very epic. THe damage is intense! Can't wait for the full game so i can customize my owm bird.
In case you didn't know, i prefer helicopters over planes. Sorry plane fans :) |
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Im hooked on this demo i must admit. As for DLC, anton has already said its a posibility, but its not down to the devs, its down to the publishers and whether or not they want to publish it. Lets hope this game gets enough sales :D Cant wait for some XBL co op missions!! Some epic games will be recorded and talked about in this forum no doubt. |
you all have me stoked! just got in and am going to DL it....we may have to split out time between BoP and AAA....we need a secretary...a sexy hot one !! i will do the the interviews.....
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I just got done playing the demo, and it was pretty nice. Until my PS3 froze!
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I had no idea this was coming out until I spotted the demo download in the PSN store last night. I've always wanted a decent helicopter game (I'm another who favours rotors over fixed wing ;)), so I did a bit of Google research whilst the demo was downloading and couldn't believe my luck when I saw it was developed by the same team behind IL-2!
I played it for about an hour last night and loved it. I thought there were one or two very minor flaws with the physics (I was playing on realistic) and a bit more of help with the controls would have been useful (e.g. using the satellite view) but otherwise its great and a definate purchase for me. Highlight of the demo for me was realising that, not only could you switch to the gunners position on the fly, but the TADS includes a FLIR mode as well. Brilliant! |
Downloaded the demo last night and played for about 1 hour, unlocked the three mission and played in realistic.
It's hard flying an helicopter i prefer a plane lol The game is very well balanced and designed, i'm pretty courious to try the simulator difficulty level but i am not very good flying helicopter. I like the english acccent of the female gunner in the last mission :rolleyes: Only thing i expected more was more definition and details over the ground and building/enviroment destrucion animation, and more dust/particles effect when flying very low or behind enemy vehicles. I fear that atmospheric turbulence has not been taken in count as well. Physics does not look good when houses collapses, and some structure can't be destoyed. Grass/bush graphical rendering is quite poor. Enemy models/animations are not good as i expected to be. Feel like ps3 can handle much more higher graphical details ( have a look at the crytek engine on ps3, used in Crysis ) Overall, the graphic is average, but i was expecting more from a brand new game. I will surely buy the full game and probably some kind of joystick, it's gonna be fun flying that heli drunk with friends, and playng that online, but i will wait to find it used, second hand or get in from ebay, not willing to pay full price for it. Bit disappointed about the graphics. P.s.: where the HELL is my air speed? Also, how can i look around like in bop while in cockpit wiew using joypad!?? |
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What we need is some damn good groud crews, a bit of training, and a lot of luck!! Was it just me that randomly listens to ride of the valkyries while playing this sometimes? haha :P Have noticed that on realistic, your fuel doesnt seem to go down. Unless its just a very slow process. Ive not looked into this to much really so dont take my word as gospel. What i do enjoy is when i have used up all my Hellfires, rather than wait 3 ins for them to re arm, i love flying to the nearest heli pad and rearming and repairing. Great feature. Great game so far, just a few minor flaws but hopefully they are only on the demo (the sound issue has not been reported on the ps3) |
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I didn't really look at the particle effects too closely but, thinking back, I don't recall seeing any sort of dust cloud when flying at low level. I'll have to check that out when I get back to my PS3 this evening! |
For those that are having trouble with the controls this seems to be the most that people are having/were having including me. I don't know about Xbox so someone else will have to clarify.
To look around with default settings. Hold d-pad down and free look with right stick. Using the motion control was hard it seemed like it had a little lag so this wasn't for me. And flying with the motion control was hard as well, but glad to see Gaijin had implemented it. To change target select missiles, X button change target. One cool thing is you can shoot beyond visual range by going into a hover or still flying. After selecting your target you can hold d-pad up to get a satellite view of target, and you can zoom in by holding L2 and while still in satellite view press R1 to fire missile, which is fire and forget. Another cool feature is while using the Flir mode, (gun) when you find a target you can press R1 to fire missile. I had got pretty good with the controls last night on realistic, I am guessing when sim mode is unlocked in full game it will be taken up a notch hopefully. I figured out you can rotate the helo a full 180 while going topspeed but you have to level out your body with the left stick and keep it level, so you can be going full out towards your target and do a complete turn around and start flying backwards while shooting hellfires. Another thing to try is while coming at targets try to switch to your flir mode and shoot while the helo is going straight at low speed that is what I did at the level where the Apache is down to make it a little more challenging. Talking about the graphics I agree the surrounding so seem a little low detail but I can live with that because the gameplay is superb. I am surprised Activision didn't has Gaijin to put in MP VS. but hopefully they could add that, I don't know. But the co-op will be fun if it is done correctly and I believe Gaijin will not let us down. |
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Has anyone just gone into "free flight" mode yet? As in.. on the first combat mission, kill all the attackers etc, but instaed of heading through the valley at the end to the forward base, jus tstay behind and enjoy flying freely without any trouble? Well i have, and its great. Zoomed in and looked at the instruments etc to. Noticed how good the touch was when you can see your pilot holding the stick etc and they move when you make them :D Great touch, BUT.... even though the instruments work, the altimeter doesnt. The dial does, but the actual altimeter doesnt. The height just stays at 0000. Little things aside. A great game. Has anyone on the PS3 encountered the sound problem that us 360 players have encountered yet? with the never ending machine gun sounds? (rainbow 6 anyone) |
Any idea if kinect works for freelook?
I love the demo and spent a while trashing it last night, pad first then AV8R-02. My only niggle with the stick support is the digital zoom (I thought the analogue zoom on the joypad was a nice touch and damn useful) but that might be a hardware limitation. Online co-op should be a blast (looking forward to trying out the local 2 player co-op too). |
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Im loving it with the stick, and dont really use digital zoom to much. Im, playing it "properly" if that makes sense? Im tracknig targets from well out of range and taking them out. Im really enjoying it alot!! Ive got this and Black Ops on pre order, both coming out within a week of each other. I can honeslt say right now as of this moment, im looking forward to this more than Black Ops!! I love it. Your right, co op should be immense if done properly by Gaijen. Shame a small sample wasnt available on the demo. But not to worry eh. |
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Thinking about the demo today I think what impressed/pleased me the most is that Gaijin have really "got" the source material. The Apache has appeared in numerous games and although its often cosmetically accurate, its very rare for its technology to be correctly represented as well. There have obviously been compromises made for gameplay purposes, but there were a lot of little details that I kept noticing - can't wait to try and spot some more later! :) |
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Playing alot today ive noticed things looked good inside the apache, but the dials etc dont really work. They will on sim mode though im sure. For example, the temp gauge and fuel gauge dont change. They stay as they are. They stand out though because they are bright green and in the middle of your cockpit. The only one that changes is RPM gauge. Im not to worried about all this though as its only realistic and ammo etc replenishes. On sim mode it does not :D so it should be fine for that. Cant wait. Theirs a small visual glitch to, could anyone else verify this for me please? If your engine gets shot enough and gets damaged (top left of screen it will say "engine damaged") the visuals will show the engine looks a mess. But... theirs a little pylon/rod thing that is just above each engine. When your engine gets damaged this pylon/rod looks visually wierd. It just appears connected to fresh air, touching nothing but stays with the apache. Nothing big really, just annoying to look at haha. Though not to much bother because i play from in the cockpit mode 99% of the time anyway. Hope your all enjoying this game :D |
Why is everyone posting about a sim mode?
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* Someone please correct me if I'm talking crap here! |
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Exciting eh? :D |
Speaking of landing...
Has anyone tried landing yet on the landing zones/heli pad on cockpit only view? How did you find it? I've tried it!! Loved it!! crashed a couple of times, but slowly getting to grips with it. Takes me a while though. I like to attempt my landing, then switch to external view once im down and my engine has shut off to see just how close i am to the middle. Its a pretty hard thing to do unless im going wrong somewhere!! |
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Ive found with the landings, i come in slightly to the side of helipad, get level with it and then slowly bank to the left or right before setting it down. Other times i will just get roughly on top of it and use the free look to make sure i can see the perimeter of the landing pad in my left and right windows. If i can them i know im on the money, then slowly set her down. I always fly from the pilots view aswell, never from the gunners view. Just doesnt seem as authentic if i do? |
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I advise anyone who is enjoying this demo to get yourself a copy of Ed Macy's book "Apache". I'm finding it hard to put down, and it really gives you a better idea of what imense skill it takes to fly this bird for real. It will make you enjoy the game even more. |
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p.s. Its because these books that I have this in my sig \/ \/ |
I just really really hope we get a BLACKHAWK. Its one of my favorite birds and it seems logical. Imagine we got all the aircraft in the AIRCRAFT section of the website :O
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i am loving it. only had about an hour to screw with it but enjoyed it. there is a learning curve after fixed with ac and old habits die hard!! i seem to hit the wrong flight control out of reflex...but i am getting better. seems the slower i go the better i can get kills. cant wait for the full version and to fly with others.
did any of you adjust your sensitivities?? and if so...which & down how many?? |
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I'm now a cockpit view player as well. I had been using the nose camera, but I switched to the cockpit view last night and found it way easier to fly the aircraft smoothly. Don't know if anyone else finds the same, but being able to see part of the aircraft makes it easier to orientate. I also found the "move cannon in zoom" (or whatever its called!) function last night, very nifty! Once you get a bit more familiar with the controls you can quite easily fly in one direction, whilst you are shooting in another. Tonights job is to properly play around with the satellite mode! NB: For those asking, the airspeed figure is on the left on the HUD, a bit below the torque figure! |
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Off topic slightly, but I've been meaning to pick up "Snake Driver" for ages now. I read a short article by the author in a book years ago and would really like to check out his full account - once again though, time and money... :grin: |
I think A:AA is at Igromir. I was there for about 3 hours yesterday but couldn't find it.
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I could disguise myself and get several copies. Make alot of money that way.
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Not quite. It has things Birds of Prey doesn't, but seems lacking alot of things does have.
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I've seen video of it there and just wondered what someone who'd actually seen it thought. It could be the reason for me to get a good P.C.
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Seems like mostly positive thoughts then? I know even with the BOP demo people were running out a huge list of complaints. I still haven't gotten a chance to try the demo yet, but I've actually been hearing a little bit of unexpected buzz on other gaming forms. Hope it sells decently, the more online players the better!
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I gave it a shot yesterday but didn't do so well.I don't know if I have the skills.
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So, any words on that BLackhawk yet? I think if it is flyable, i might start some sort of vote for a huey as well via DLC. THat would make this game the coolest game...ever?
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Also, any words on pre-order bonus'? Im thinking of pre-ordering it, just for kicks.
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no..blackhawk isnt flyable. just a couple versions of the apache...an unmanned but armed drone and the hind. for a DLC i would love the A10...but not holding my breath.
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actually kind of surprised i dont see more people playing the demo when i go online. i figured i wouldnt get into a BoP for awhile because of it but not so..at least late night in the us.
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And yes, the A10 as extra DLC would be awesome. Probably unlikely, but still awesome! |
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i know the demo is released in the us for xbox. i DLed it the day after. i admit having to look around for it.
yeah it was pretty well confirmed that those are the only ac flyable...2 versions of the apache, the mq 8b ( un manned not unarmed..or should say remotely piloted) and a hind. i will dig for the actual quote later... |
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I want a blackhawk :(
Were is it confirmed that you cant fly it? Just because in the demo it has just those three showing does that mean*only those? I just have a hard time thinking this. Also why would they put all those Aircraft under "AIRCRAFT" on the website if you can only fly 3? It just seems fishy i dont know. |
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Although saying that, I would be very suprised if you do get to fly it. The developers didn't confirm that there are no other helicopters unlockable. |
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Holy s***. Playstation peeps listen up! The Official Playstation Blog released there games release list, and it has Apache: Air Assault listed to be released tomorrow in the US. Comment #75 asks for verification of the release date and the blogger confirms it is to be released tomorrow.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/...ge-2/#comments Excuse me while I run down the street flailing my arms and jumping with excitement. |
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EDIT: Called my local Gamestop today and they are still saying the 16th. So no game today. |
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Apologies for the double post and further apologies if this has already been posted, but I just spotted this in the Yuplay forum and thought it was worth sharing:
http://yuplay.com/img/screenshots/6E...2BC6/big/8.jpg Mi-35 front seat! :grin: |
It looks too clean to be Russian. The pilot has digital camo similar to the U.S.A millitary also.
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Absolutely true. I remember riding in the back of the Mi-35s and the cigar smoke from the pilots seat always drifted back onto us.
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This Russian one has a similarly nice black interior.
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