Performance
 

Hi,
I installed the russian version of the game today and I'm having serious problems with my computers performance. It's strange, because my computer passed the performance test at begining and I'm playing GTA IV for example pretty smoothly. But Rig 'n' Roll is basicly unplayable even on the lowest details. I'm using Windows 7 x86, GeForce 9800 GTX+, Pentium 4 HT, 2 GB RAM. Are you having similar problems or is it just me?

A Pentium 4 HT... is that a Core2Duo? Or an actual Pentium 4? 'Cause a Pentium 4 is pretty dated these days.

Windows 7 x86... that's 32bit?

I can play the game fine on my Core2Duo 2.4 with the same graphics card, same memory and same OS (Win7 32bit). I just kept the settings that the game chose at initial startup (not the highest), I run the game at 1680*1050. If your CPU is a Pentium 4 then I'm guessing that's the bottleneck in your system. But then it would surprise me you can run GTA 4 fine :|

Pentium 4 HT isn't dual core yet, but it somehow simulates to have two cores or something like that, it has 3 GHz..but i guess you're right, it must be the CPU. I can't run GTA 4 absolutely well and it's getting worse with rain, fog etc. but at least i'm able to play it, even at 1920x1080. Anyway, looks like I'll have to upgrade my computer.

it's difficult to say what the culprit is when there is difficulty running games, even more difficult when it didn't happen to us. yes your p4 is outdated now but perhaps its not the prime problem. over-clock it a bit and see if gameplay improves a little, if it does i suppose that will give you the answer. windows 7 is garbage but i've read that rig'n'roll wasn't made to run under winXP ???

you have a good video card. keep your hard drive and maybe your power-supply will work too. go buy an amd dual core 65w (saves power @_@) cpu for $50-70, 3.0ghz or whatever. and an asus motherboard (~$70) to go with it. get a good one to leave room for upgrading to a phenom black edition. or just buy that right away =-D. the x3 might be the best value (sometimes you can unlock the 4th core. actually sometimes even those sold as x2' end up being completely stable under 4). but at the end of the day its all pointless. usually the only thing that people tax their system with is games and games (i think still) only use 2 cores. thats why intel sells duo extreme for gaming.

well if you buy cpu + mobo then all you need is 2gb or more of ddr2/ddr3 ram, and you can run crysis not just rig n' roll

computers are very cheap now when compared to 10 years ago, especially if you stay away from that intel garbage.

but before you convince your mom you need a new computer to play games O_O update your nvidia drivers. drivers are everything...especially when you have ati.

Lol, Windows 7 is by far the best operating system Microsoft have made since XP, and it far surpasses it in virtually all aspects, if run on a computer that's fit to run it. But... I'm not gonna go into that discussion again because I know from experience that it's pointless; people who are blind will choose to remain blind :) Stick with XP if you're happy with it.

No way! GTA 4 with a single core Pentium 4 "absolutely well"?! On 640*480 and all settings set on low?!

Well said. I also agree with you. Vista is too much of a CPU hog, and XP is way out-dated. Your point is valid.

i use windows 7 x64, there are still a few compatibility issues but it is far superior to vista in so many ways, there is no way i could go back to any other os now.

if you won't go back then why not upgrade to something better like ubuntu 9.10

but then if some people choose to remain blind..

i do not choose to remain blind, i had simply never heard of it, i am downloading it as we speak.

Hmmmm ubuntu is better than windows?? i completely disagree, it took an hour just to get flash player installed, i have attempted to install ETS but gave up after half hour.

How can any operating system where you have to keep manually inputting commands and have to go through 20 different processes just to get 1 program installed be better than windows, also in one of my previous posts, i touched on the compatibility problems of vista, ubuntu is far worse, for example, will R'n'R even install on ubuntu, and if it did will it work?

after a clean istall of windows all i have to do is load youtube, it tells me i need to update flash, i click the link and its done, all ubuntu has done is made me appreciate windows 7 even more.

Haha, that's Linux for you :) Yet its users keep insisting that it's far better and -get this - easier to use (haha) than Windows :)

The answer is NO, and hardly any game will install in Linux, as it uses a completly different way of work internally

So if this is the case how can ubuntu be superior to widows? i spent £1500 on my pc for 1 reason, to play games so i think i would rather remain blind thanks.

well i consider myself an advanced pc user, i can build and repair pc's and i can use windows with no difficulty whatsoever but ubuntu is so confusing, i admit it runs very smoothly and there are a few areas where microsoft should take note for the next version of windows, i myself will stick with what i know.

Linux would be very useful in notebooks, where you need only Firefox and VLC and save battery, but in desktop computers is a no-sense IMO

I spent $400 on my pc and do the same thing. maybe my screen is not as big, my video card not as noisy, I understand completely but you shouldn't be obliged to hold up some illusion and lie to yourself that you have the best when you dont even have anything to compare it to. Like many others I dual boot, Windows is purely for the newest games though technically you can run win emulation in linux to get games to work, but the main problem is graphics drivers (especially from ati) & direct x effects. "Manually imputing commands" is not a problem for me, in fact I love it. It brings me back to the days of dos. When Windows 3.1 arrived you'd usually have to restart to dos to play games because Windows was too buggy. It had the same bugs version after version for 10 years (and ran under dos), despite huge profits and a massive workforce, so how can I like Microsoft? But I don't dislike them more than Apple, or Intel or many others. Because Microsofts programs are all free, ;-) you can't pirate hardware. Best example XP was cracked 20+ days before it even launched and I can use that same serial key today and update to ServicePack3 from their website. No I'm not being an idealist for computer things, or a linux elitist or one of those nerds, I care about bigger things in life. But I don't like to be spied on, by the N$@, h0m3l@nd s3c^r!ty or whoever. They already raid our servers, monitor everything on internet, is that not enough? they have to scan every one of my mp3s? maybe when the next-gen Microsoft integrated house products come to market, I can simply connect my brain to have my thoughts uploaded. I don't like the demeaning cookie cutter ideology which underestimates our intelligence. We are already all tools & slaves, but when you get on your computer you're the master of the machine. You're supposed to be doing the "programming". That's how it used to be, why should I bow down to this shit for some cheesy features which apple's os probably had 3 years ago and linux had before that. there are many versions of linux, each build for a niche, and they are constantly being improved. its unfair to try it once and make conclusions, when you said yourself vista was horrible compared to 7, and that's despite the fact that you had been using windows for years. i wasn't trying to sell linux but rather scolding him for upgrading to the newest trends on an aging system! i acknowledge that win7 not only looks good because of exceeding low expectations (after the disastrous vista), or because the timing of 64-bit transition was better, but that it's an actually good system. i simply meant that if you have an old computer the last thing you need is the latest bloatware, even if 7 is not a system hog which is super, there hasn't been the first service pack.

btw speaking of flash player, i think that's adobe's problem. they changed everything to downloader clients and such and as an unintended? consequence are helping to tank linux and its new users. ubuntu for example has no compatibility with photoshop, instead they developed one that's BETTER. but photoshop is adobe's breadbasket. in the 90s photoshop was over $500. i don't know how much it costs now but business is business. extortion is the name of the game, just like intel did to dell. those who suffer are ofcourse the users like us.

going from garbage to a good system within a few posts...that's wonderful

oh and btw what was this topic about again? aaah i remember now, and it definitely wasn't about any conspiracy theory. i don't see the connection between any intelligence underestimating ideology and rignroll's performance, do you?

Exactly and as ubuntu does not even run R'n'R i don't see why it was mentioned in the first place.

welcome to internet forums babies. no body can put every thought in his head into text. i use keyboard to type not dictation through microphone, but even with such things and limitless time no one would be fully willing. taking things out of context to win some meaningless debate is the sign of immaturity. well babies, maybe its time to grow up. the point was helping this kid run the game, not argue about opensource. microsoft has largely held a monopoly for decades, now competition has caused it to try to release decent products (good in some respects). and you're rooting for them. it's like rooting for real madrid, please get off it, you tools. do you have microsoft stock? it's especially pathetic since i wasn't preaching a rival operating system but XP! and I use 2000 Professional on my older pc

your reasoning.
I said 7 was garbage.
you took this personally, coming from someone you never talked to or met before, and defended it was the greatest thing since sliced bread on the basis that it was much better than vista (also a microsoft product). and someone said i was missing a lot and yet chose to remain blind. well, what am i missing that's so great lads?? 24/7 "updating"? the latest effects in far cry 2? i think i'm gaining much more than i'm missing using the likes of ubuntu 9.10

so then rob decides to try it. uses it for 1 hr, has trouble with adobe flash player and concludes its garbage (and thats not taking it out of context) because it requires the use of the brain on the side of the user while he didnt use it long enough to see loads of benefits such as customization. maybe you should try Kubuntu rob, since you like windows style so much. and it's true, many of its users are educated in computer science and you may not want to take a class just to learn an operating system but the ubuntu forums have super support, you can get 10 knowledgeable responses in a few minutes.

boy this is depressing, not just because we're arguing on some off-topic thing, but the foundation of the argument is flawed because win 7 would win by default, no matter how good or bad it was. simply thrilling! why even play rig n roll when we have this.

by the way i also called intel garbage, but was being much more sincere. nobody called me up on that, is it because you agree with me? is it because amd does the same thing (even games), while not charging $100 extra for the logo. i think it would of made a better argument, not because its one i could win, but because the kid who had trouble might get some actual benefit when buying a new computer.

btw, are you novalogic fan? what "conspiracy", "theories"? what a surprise if you dont value civil rights.

why would i want to try kubuntu, and who cares of ubuntu is customizable, if i cant run any games,

The ubuntu forums are really good! i posted 2 days ago and am still waiting for response for the problem i was having, (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ghlight=hd4870 ) havn't had problems with windows that i need help with,

In my opinion ubuntu and the likes are free for a reason, because nobody would be prepared to pay for it, i know i wouldn't, but i bought windows 7 and have not regretted my purchase for a second.

And intel are garbage, that why i have always used AMD, i now have a Phenom II x4

it runs games. games designed specifically for linux market, and more and more universal dvd releases (win/mac/linux). it can also run using certain programs most games but some take more work than others. that forum is the official one, seemed to be better before. you should go to the unofficial official ones, i forgot the site as i haven't been there in a while. but what i'm about to tell you will make you very happy. ati should be avoided if you're running linux. ati treats their workers like sh*t especially after amd bought them. as such, their products are a mess until 6months to a year after when they catch up on drivers. this leaves little room for helping the 5-10% linux users. and of course like any computer company making billions of dollars, they want to fight open source as much as they can, as they can see it steadily growing, even though they're a hardware company! @_@

i think you can download kubuntu add-on where you downloaded updates.
in my opinion if linux wasn't free just cheap it would be more widespread. apple even in the days before intel processors when you literally couldn't open a folder without the system hanging with that weird empty box (their version of blue screen of death) it was wildly popular and people would pay more for that than a windows based pc. a lot of people fear linux like its a communist trap

again, none of what you said helps out the topic stater with his problem. it was obvious that his outdated cpu was the problem here and even if it wasn't, how is linux going to help him run rignroll better?

take you personal crusade against the big bad evil world elsewhere because youre not going to win many souls here

also, if you do decide to write another one of your rants, why not go for a little more coherence?

If you take Doordie's advice, your in for a wake-up call. I have been reading his posting, and referred them to some top-notch computer techs, and what he states is opinionated, and most certainly not accurate.:rolleyes:

These tech's are from Wall Street firms that also love playing games. They also state that his comments are full of double-talk, and contradictions. Let him rant. He's only making a fool of himself.:-P

hahaha! so funny i didn't even say very much for their to be "holes" in my.. opinion? isn't that obvious. or did you mistake it for an article in a serious computer journal.
there's no such thing as computer tech, or is it a self appointed position for twats. in todays era where every idiot has a computer and since this is the information age, it's easy to get big headed and easy to substitute experience & knowledge for bullshit.
wall street, that just makes me want to hit a brick wall. i could write A LOT about how incredibly stupid it sounded to mention them but it might hurt those jerks' feelings. what to say to your random response, i thought the conversation was already over. i have a close relative who worked at microsoft, others work at google/youtube, another has his own company. if you only knew the idiots who work at these places. smart people are hard to find, they are not concentrated in any vocation. most programmers are nothing special, and you can even have jackass doctors. i dont consider myself a computer expert, i chose a different path from basically my whole family but comparing operating systems for "daily life" isn't a complex issue and since you are so much better than me why not answer the question i posed. what am i missing without windows 7? in a year when all the games with direct x 11 come out, maybe then something tangible?

Here in New York (and I'm sure in other states) there are many schools that offer Computer Technology or Programming classes. On the door to my wifes Wall Street firm there is a sign in the Operations Office door that states: "Computer Tech Support - Authorized Personnel Only". I guess I must be seeing things. One can only surmise that the people in there must be Computer Techs.

You came on this thread insulting people that use W7, calling it garbage, and the people that use it blind, and that they should use Ubuntu. This system is geared for people that like to tweak their system, and get in depth. It's not made for the average person. Ubuntu is not better, or worse then W7, just different. On another post you called W7 good. Hmm, garbage, or good. I'm confused.

Then you chastise Rob G that tried it for a couple of hours, and stated that he didn't like. It only takes me a couple of hours to decide if I am comfortable with a system too. We're not all tweakers, and other systems suit us better.

Never have I seen someone write so much, and say so little (or say it incoherently as Novatekk put it). Your go on rants that people have a problem understanding, because you writings are all over the place.

Well, my rant is over, and I'll not bring it up again, unless you force my hand. Hopefully my point was made. Maybe now we can get on topic as the original poster of this thread had intended.

here we go, like a broken record. do i have to call you babies again?
I called win 7 garbage in the context of running it on an outdated system, to try to run a game problem free.. when many games by much bigger brands than softlab-nsk are having problems with it and x64. by the time there will be first service pack it should be very different. i later put aside my 'opinionated' views about microsoft & privacy rights and acknowledged it was a solid system, i actually used that word but apparently its not coherent enough for you? or did you want me to stick to my guns even when others accused me of being blind, which is >>why i brought up ubuntu in the first place<< as a sarcastic (though half serious) response. so what do you want from me, to say its garbage again?

and what point is that exactly?

You gave no credence toward why you called W7 garbage. You called it outright, and now you're changing your tune to suit you. You never used the word apparently. You attacked us point blank. Your rantings is not just for me, but to others as already stated. What about Computer Techs, that you ignorantly stated don't exist. Stop your imbecile rantings, and stay to the point. Your words do not convey what you are trying to state. Stop trying to baffle us with your vocabulary that you don't know how to use, or dazzle us with your low level brilliancy. You're not impressing anyone, and the more you address this issue, the dumber you sound. Try to think your thoughts, before you put them on print.

However, I suggest to the Mods that this thread should be closed, because it is getting way off topic, as the originator intended it to be.

QRipper, contact me, or someone else via Personal Message to try to aid you in getting this game to run correctly, without all the BS stated here. I'm sure we can help you.

was it not you calling us Blind? or did i mis-read somewhere?

Thread closed, this is not a "Windows vs. Linux holy war" forum.