Control Devices & Wheel Issues
 

I know that it has been said that the G25 logitech is "the" wheel that the game has been designed for, but, and I am sure I am not alone here, I cant afford the price tag of the G25. Will the game also support other wheels? I am disabled and I dont have real good use of my legs so I dont need the pedals and I have limited room so I really dont need the extra gear shifter. All I need is the wheel and shift paddles and programmable buttons. Will anything like this be supported by the game ?? Thanks

Yes.

Nowadawys games supports everything that DirectX supports, so if it works on Windows it'll pretty sure work on any modern game

im making a custom wheel but its still not assembled as i need to get RnR first to see what buttons will be supported :)

How will you make it ?

logitech g25??
 

i cant find clutch_??

It's the pedal on the left :-p

lmao!!!

Igor said in one of his interviews that the clutch on the G25 was supported! It would be silly if it's not since the gear box is.

the clutch problem is ok. g25 is working well...gearbox and clutch is realistic

I have G25 too. I was wondering about the clutch. If you go from 1st to 3rd or 4th, do you hear the transmission grind like in real life indicating the obvious?

I sooo want to play, but the US version is slated for January. So I'll just watch the videos, and pick everyones brains. I'm a former trucker in the 90's, and I'm just gauging the reality feel of the game. ;)

Lol, don't count on it buddy. There's nowhere near that much detail or realism in this game :)

Actually, I had some PM's that indicated it does, as long as you program it correctly, but I'll wait until January to see, when the game comes to the US.

Thanks anyway.

It doesn't even have proper engine sound so I'd be very surprised if they had bothered to put in a grinding sound. None of the vids I've seen so far had it.

The videos can be a little deceiving, but I do enjoy watching them. There is no way to know about speed jumping from a video. The people that PM'd me have played it with G25, and I see no reason to doubt them. What would they have to gain? I will eventually find out for myself.

Do you have a G25? If you do, what is your experience with it in the game? If not, then the point seems mute.

There are only 5 until 6 gears and you only need the clutch for shifting... So much about realism.

can some one post witch settings he have in the logitech profiler and in the game please

This is quite a problem. RNR has a lousy taste in my FF. I'm trying to setup two days and I'm always satisfied. I used to playing hardcore simulations, and the RnR FF I can not get used to. Moreover, the game does not use the G25 full 900 °. Steering wheel after take-off apart. Setup is just the addition of linearity and ill effect FF. This is inadequate for precise control and function....

I thought I read somewhere that the game would support 900° steering wheels. How much rotation does it support then?

It is the strange solution. Setting G25 on my 900 degrees, but the game responds as follows:

Ingame setting has only 2 settings. Strength of response and linearity.

Set up ingame linearity to 100% (the steering wheel is too sensitive.) = Total ingame turning the steering wheel turns around 810 degrees

Set up ingame linearity to 0% (steering wheel has a central position about 180° dead zone) = total ingame turning the steering wheel turns around 880 degrees

It is never full 900 degrees and do not understand why as the degree depending on the setting lenearity??? This is unusual and uncomfortable ....

RNR does not support game controllers connected to the PC at the same time once. The problem is a configuration controller. Option is primarily keyboard settings + only one controller. Unable to set other remaining controllers. Even not choose to be the main and secondary. RNR shows the keyboard + controller ID in the first game drivers.
The second thing is that they are selected on default action on all controllers (acceleration, brake, left, right) and when I delete these events and restart the game again automatically entered standard setting ......

Correct:
Able to set all the game controllers while connected to the PC. Delete automatically selected on the action for each controllers. (((Only the G25 steering wheel I used to manage! Remaining controllers for the remaining events. Such as lights, flashers, ........ etc)

In the settings menu: Missing Indicators spins the wheel and dead zone (I can not verify the changes I made)
Acceleration indicators, brake clutch. Set the pedals is completely missing. There is no possibility of linearity pedals and dead zone set .......

Correct wrong FF and full 900 °. Clutch works too strange. Does not work at start the vehicle. Works both mutations between manual and semi-automatic gearbox ....

TrackIR: Support is not. Does not work!

And so I could continue. What developers did 8 years I ask??

The G25 isnt very well used you can change to the next gear you want without a gearchange in game until you dip the clutch wich is total unrealistic dunno if its just me but has anybody else tried it yet

I think that is imposible to fix until we have force feedback in our shifters.You can change to another gear without clutch or syncronize your gears, but the shifter doesn't know the game do that (and it's not the only game)

with regards to the not having full 900 degree support, not very many games do apart from the full on racing sims like GTR and Rfactor and my favourite, Test drive unlimited.
But i play euro truck simulator which also does not support 900 degree, but i can force it to using the logitech profiler and it is spot on, for every millimeter i move the wheel, it does the same in game, can you not do the same with this game?
I too am waiting for the english release before i buy it like USA Trucker, and as you may have guessed i am also lucky enough to own a G25 :)

can anybody that has the game and the G25 confirm if the above works or not? i am too impatient to wait till i get the game.

Confirm if what works, exactly? I've got the game but haven't been able to configure the steering wheel correctly so far. Obviously I don't understand a letter of Russian so it's all trial and error.

I have the pedals set up okay, but for some reason it doesn't seem to detect the steering wheel properly. It only detects movement to the left side. So I can steer to the left alright but not to the right. I'm sure it's just a matter of changing some setting somewhere.

As for forcing the game to use the full 900° I can't say. I am sure that you can set your wheel to use the full 900° using the Logitech Profiler, but the in-game steering wheel will probably not be in sync with your real steering wheel (ie. the in-game wheel will probably turn slower).

I also haven't been able to configure my seperate shifter. The game detects the G25 shifter alright but I normally use a different shifter because, well... the G25 shifter is shit. I've seen someone on this forum say that it is possible to configure other control devices as well, though, so that's just a matter of knowing where to look (and understanding Russian :D).

From my limited experience I can say that the clutch doesn't work like it's supposed to at all, as has been mentioned several times by other people who have the game. Pressing the clutch pedal doesn't actually disengage the engine, it's also impossible to stall the engine. You can't let the clutch slip, either, as far as I can tell. I also don't hear any grinding noises when shifting down (or up) several gears at once as some "individuals" supposedly told USA_Trucker in PM's.

A positive note is that the game seems to run smoothly on my not-very-high-end system on a resolution of 1680*1050. From what I had read so far I feared that it would be a slide show. I haven't fiddled around with any graphical settings or anything, though. At the first run the game chooses the settings best suited for your system, and I just stuck with that. Looks good enough for me although I'm sure it can look a lot better if you've got a proper gaming pc.

The game is stupid for my taste FF steering wheel and controls in the game only on collision while driving on the grass, sand, the difference in adhesion and a little feeling of inequality but only slightly. Remaining FF is deaf and has to control the settings in game controllers, and it is unusual for simulation.
There is no change in resistance depending on speed, weight etc.. The effect of resistance management is pending, it is not continuously progressive, but at a certain speed after starting unpleasant jerks and it is about a transformation of the resistance wheel while driving.
This is a typical setting wheel for simulation and used for simulation of the type LFS, rFactor, GTR (all Simbin games), which are full of FF and fully control the steering wheel:

-pedals as separate (box unchecked)
Degress-Rotation of the 360 ° - 900 ° (This is change. Depends on a given series)
Enable force-feedback (box ticked)
-Overall effects strength 90-100% (depending on taste and also at special plug-in simulation adapted)
Strength-spring effect 0%
Strength-Damper effect 0%
-Enable centering spring force feedback in Games (box ticked)
Centering spring-strenth 0%
-Allow game to adjust settings (box ticked)

This is the setting for full support games / simulations, which have a complete FF, where the game takes full dominion over the steering wheel. This setting if you use the RNR, and the steering wheel is idle, without resistance, without FF. Therefore it is necessary to set Strength-spring effect and
Strength-Damper effect but this can never be perfect, because the steering wheel controls its own head, and the G25 software is there to ensure that at least some FF, if bad, bad games of imperfect FF .....

No. It never will not work. In the game, the wheel rotates (visually on the monitor) only 360 °. This means that the synchronization RNR and your steering wheel will never be. It can work only if your set wheel to 360 ° and set 100% linearity. It will then be synchronized, but with such a setup, you not keep the vehicle on the road.

There is some problem with this game and deful setting keys and actions. Change actions is possible, but you NOT must delete function that is selected on by default. You can change You can not delete. If you leave an empty space where they must be action, does not respect the game and reload deful standard set. For example, if erase all the action and leave an empty space, every normal play your VOB respects and saves, but the RNR Sun He needs to have registered and how certain functions are not ignoring your settings and forced upon you again deful settings. This is something awful here this. I do not need a change of view on the steering wheel, but when I delete it and not change for another event, again with deful reads. I do not understand this. Moreover, it is not simply a set of 900 ° to ignore the game. ....

Finally. While FF is bad, but 100% better than SCS. The SCS her not know the feeling of the steering wheel if you stand, poison, cast or flushes the toilet. RNR is better FF than SCS

Performance with Force Feedback
 

Hello,
all the time I played the game without a wheel .. only using keyboard .. now that i got to try it with a wheel, i noticed major performance decrease !! (and by major i mean major ,, it was unplayable at almost any fair looking graphic settings.)

Here is basic info about my rig:

Intel C2D T7500 @2.13GHz
4GB DDR2/667 RAM
nVidia GeForce 8600M GT/512MB
(yes it's a notebook)
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Wheel: Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback Wheel

I Suspect that is the biggest issue!!!

Rob_G: Eventhough his notebook isn't the most powerful out there, by looking at the topic title, I think he meant to say that before using the wheel the game ran at least somewhat acceptable.

cVGhost: I think the performance decrease is caused by your steering wheel. The Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback Wheel has the exact same issues in many other games. Many people playing Testdrive Unlimited with that particular wheel for example experienced the exact same loss in performance as you describe.

I think the reason for this decrease has to do with the fact that older wheels, like the one you have, use a different (outdated) force feedback technique compared to most recent wheels. If you haven't done this already, you might want to try and disable force feedback alltogether and see if the performance gets better.

I thought it was the Xbox 360 who used different FFB. In PC they use DirectInput, a part of DirectX

(I could be wrong, as I don't know much about this)

That sucks .. well I guess that's the price for having an .. idk .. 8 year old steering wheel :-(

btw: the game runs perfecly smooth with medium-to hight settings .. (texture filtering at max, other setting at 3/4, AI traffic at 100%)
but not with the steering wheel it doesn't :-)

I'll try to disable the force feedback . . even tough i think I already did that and it had no effect ..

aren't recent wheels using USB 2.0 ?

Well I am not a 100% sure on the Microsoft wheel but I have the old Logitech Formula Force wheel (same era I guess) and here is what a Logitech employee had to say:

Oh, then I have learned something new today hehe

when im driving my truck to change from 1st to 3rd all the time then 3rd to sixth etc etc this is normal? why would the box grind :S

Logitech G27 Steering wheel
 

i was woundering if the Logitech G27 steering wheel is compatible with Rig N Roll the steering wheel comes with a manual 6 speed gear shift along with a clutch and i thought it would be more realistic to use.
i am sorry if i am posting this in the wrong area, but ive been curious about this for some time now, thank you

YOu could have serached a bit before posting :mad:

Te answer is YES.

But as far as I know the clutch is not realistic at all...

Actually I think this is the first time someone mentions the G27. But yes, the G25 has been mentioned and seeing as the G27 is the same wheel for the most part it's safe to assume that it can be used in the game.

thank you for the replys

ANY directx compatible controller works with rignroll.

Hello,

Yes, this game have the problem mention above:
It doesn't detect other controller than the keyboard and the 1st one (ID). In my case i was unable to use my wheel in this game :( because i have 3 game controllers and my wheel (G25) have ID 2, so i can't select it on the RnR.

I hope that this problem will be solved soon in a future patch

Best regards

Tercio

are some problems with 360 controller. some buttons won't work correctly. like I wanted to use the second analog stick for views. inside truck to look left right and so on. and it wouldn't register the input correctly. the right view worked, but not the left. I guess the dpad would be better fit for something like this, but the 360 dpad is horribly unreliable and it's too easy to make the wrong input

also the analog stick for steering seems way too twitchy, response/acceleration/speed is too high or something. too much response with very little stick movement. needs to be a bigger dead zone option for the middle area/neutral position of the stick maybe. as it was very hard to make the truck go straight, had to adjust all the time

although a g25 wheel is my primary input device, so this isn't actually an important concern for me. just when I installed the game earlier the wheel was attached to my other computer, and the 360 controller was readily available. would be nice to have these things looked at though

This is a problem with many games, not just RNR. Disconnect your other controller devices except for G25, and your mouse. I have many cotroller devices too. I just keep the ones connected that I need for a particular game. G25, and the mouse ONLY, works very well for me. All I ask is that you try my suggestion, and see if this solves your problem. What do you have to loose? :grin:

Well, what if you use a G25 and a seperate shifter?

Steering keeps pulling to the left?
 

Hi all i have just got RNR and for some reason the steering in the truck keeps pulling to the left anyone have this prob?i also have a logitech extreme 3d pro pluged in could this cause it?i am just using the keyboard,thanks all:confused:

That is the G25 that I have. Is that what you mean? The shifter is connected to the steering wheel, so it's not separate, and counts as one control device.

Me it also happened once in the G25. Stop and Turn the full right to left until it stops the wheel. The steering wheel should be centered.
If you're injured then crashed geometry. Try to pre-emptively warn the repair shop if there were problems all the time.

Steering keeps pulling to the left?
 

Thanks for you reply m8,but i tried turning the steering right then left and the other way round but it is still doing it i cant understand it:confused:

DO WHAT?! I don't think the game runs that way. You can't actually state your problems to the repair shop. They give you a list of what's wrong, and you select which ones to fix. It's not like your mechanic in real life.

@=XII=Shea

Go to the SETTINGS MENU. Were you see turn left & and turn right, do so. Make sure you click on the appropriate command (highlighted), and then turn the wheel. This should resolve the problem. This happened to me in the begining, but never repeated it after the adjustments.

Lol. Sry. This is my bad English:D I wanted to say that they try to solve the problem with the controls, go into the shop and repaired. If damaged geometry. I tested the game for damage. Here deliberately rammed into the barriers and distortions of RNR has geometry.

=XIII=Shea
Other options
1 - Try to fix the repair shop at truckstop
2 - Re-Calibrate the joystick in the Game Controllers
3 - the problem may be two or more drivers connected to the PC. Can interfere with each other. Try to disconnect all other USB game controllers. Leave a functional keyboard and your joystick.

I covered that in another thread for someone who had others controller problems. http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...58&postcount=5

I know. But this may relate to the problem of steering as well! Basically I have a lot of game devices connected to the PC and the problem was one of the steering problems too

sorted
 

thanks all for your help i found out that it was the joystick that was causing the prob,thanks again all:-P

No, that's not what I meant. I mean what if you have an actual seperate game controller for a shifter, aside from the G25 one. My G25 one went bust quite some time ago (as they are wont to do) so I bought another one that is infinitely better. I couldn't get the Russian version of the game to detect the seperate shifter. Then again I don't understand a word of Russian so that doesn't help.

Hey guy, I wish I could help you, but I think that's something for someone else, more qualified then me to do. Sorry, I only know about the G25 w/shifter included. I think I know someone who can help. Give me your specs on your controller, and I'll get him ASAP.

It's possible. It's very complicated to setup, but it used a lot of gaming devices at one time. But it is necessary to modify the secondary game controllers and Buttons to change the shortcuts. I obtained the use of G25 + gamepad + joystick at a time in the game. The game itself not support. But through special programs (kontrollers Commander) it goes. I use this program to Xpadder I solved the problem of ID controller so that disconnect USB joystick and gamepad and leave a G25. After loading the game, the game loads settings G25 and then get involved in the game other USB kontrollers. Uncomfortable, but it works.

Hello,

Yes, if i disconnect all other controllers i get G25 works. BUT it is not the correct method because there are other simulators than car's simulator. I have a HOTAS, G25 and a CH TQS, and it is not very good to hardware to connect and disconnect the others devices any time i want to use RnR (many connect and disconnect damage the usb port). The problem is in RnR and not in my other devices. If almost all games and simulators (and i have tons of them) recognize multiple devices and use them, it is not correct that RnR only use one that i can't choose who (and don't forget that, if windows can use/install multiple devices it is not to connect and disconnect the devices all the time).

I hope this problem will fix soon, because it affects to only me, but all persons that have multiple joystick (and i'am not the only one)

Thanks very much in advance

Problems galore.
 

Mainly the fact that the graphics settings reset so that there's no special effects. . . no antialiasing and no anisotropic filtering, let alone motion blur, and I'm on an ATI HD5870.

I also have TrackIR, and there seems to be absolutely no way to get it to work.

Beyond that, most of my problems will have to be fixed by modders. I've never seen simulated police who behave so unlike American police. They'll stop me for a questionable lane change (which doesn't matter to me, since without TrackIR, I can't check my mirrors anyway), but they'll let me speed all I want. . .

Biggest of all is the presence of Starforce! A company all the majors have refused to work with because of their dangerous zealotry and the damage they cause to customers' hardware! These people have been discredited for years, and I've personally (I buy *all* my software) had two optical drives destroyed by their so-called 'protection.' Biggest even here is the fact that I just paid over $45.00, and I only get three activations, which is beyond all reason. I purchased this software, not a limited license, and I am tremendously offended that the developer would limit me like that, when a pirate will get as many 'activations' as he likes, because Starforce does not actually, in any way, prevent piracy.

Then of course, there's the fact that my character looks like a giant douche, but that's okay.

Otherwise, this looks promising indeed, and I'll probably give it a shot again in a year or so, when more of the bugs are worked out, and the Starforce 'protection' (read: madness) is removed.

Yes. It's a stopgap. I just said that it is non-standard, complicated, improvised.
Yes. I used to play simulators LFS, rFactor? RBR, iRacing, games from Simbin. These are advanced simulators. There is no problem to have so many game controllers. / My work from everything you can think up. This is another dimension of quality simulations than games RNR or SCS.
I have a home made instrument panel with many conttollers. Built for hardcore simulators. You need to have a lot of buttons for actions :).....

Yes. I have to TrackIR4 and I have previously complained that the game is no support for it. Belago saying it will support. Again lied about what he says or does not know: /
The only option is to emulate a mouse.
Start> All Programs> TrackIR4 (or select the generation you're TrackIR3, TrackIR5 ,...)> Mouse Emulation
There you have to set sensitivity. It's uncomfortable, it does not work exactly, there are delays and not centering nor linearity operation does not work. It is again a fallback solution. Promoting the game of course is 100% better, but that does not support RNR. Only in this way it works, not otherwise.
BTW: Even the stupid games from SCS to support TrackIR! OMG. Since Haulin era. TrackIR support is now standard for high-quality simulators. Thus it is clear where they belong RNR hehehehe.

Really? I remember I tried getting headtracking to work in Haulin but could only do it by mouse emulation. I could be wrong, though.

From Haulin TrackiR work seriously. But it works after patch 1.6 version. Since this version works Haulin TrackIR standard on all new titles SCS games.

Ah, I'm not sure if I got that patch. Anyway it doesn't matter, I just tried Haulin again earlier today and the physics and sounds are just too awful for me. A shame 'cause I enjoyed it quite a bit when I first got it but I really want something more realistic now. Just a shame there's nothing out there yet :(

Yes. I understand you. I also do not like SCS games. I am accustomed to a different standard simulators. Therefore, I waited for RNR as salvation. Now I know one thing. I hate both games. SCS and RNR is for me the same crap. Each game has it the second something better but overall the two other games I not can play:( It's a stalemate Checkmate for me.

Pls. You write your setup in thread G25?? I do not see how it can be perfect:) The game is imperfect and incomplete FFB. Pls. Your settings controller and setup ingame. Thx;)

Along with these settings in the game profile, don't forget about adjusting your Logitech G25 Profiler, especially the FFB category. I have most of them set to 120+. I can feel the bumps on the road, curbs, grass, dirt, etc. The steering wheel has a slight shimmy like most trucks have.

CurrentJoystick="control Logitech G25 Racing Wheel USB"
[control Logitech G25 Racing Wheel USB]
pa_VVK_CARV_CLUTCH="JS1-F"
p2_VVK_TURNSIGNAL_LEFT="JB6"
p2_VVK_FM_RADIO_ON="JB3"
p2_VVK_VIEWER_OUTSIDEVIEWMODE="JB18"
p2_VVK_CARV_ACCEL2="JB7"
p2_VVK_MAP="JB1"
p2_VVK_CARV_GEARUP="JB9"
pa_VVK_CARV_ACCEL="JA3-F"
pa_VVK_CARV_BRAKE="JA6-F"
pa_VVK_CARV_RIGHT="JA1+"
p2_VVK_CRUISECONTROL="JpovB5"
p2_VVK_BEAMS="JB4"
p2_VVK_WIPER="JB8"
check="1"
p2_VVK_HORN="JB7"
p2_VVK_CARV_HANDBRAKE="JB2"
p2_VVK_CARV_GEARDOWN="JB10"
pa_VVK_CARV_LEFT="JA1-"
p2_VVK_CAM_NEAR=""
p2_VVK_CAM_POS1="JB17"
p2_VVK_CAM_POS3="JB19"
p2_VVK_CAM_POS4="JB17"
p2_VVK_CAM_POS5="JB18"
p2_VVK_CAM_POS6="JB19"
p2_VVK_CAM_POS8="JB16"
p2_VVK_TURNSIGNAL_RIGHT="JB5"
p2_VVK_CHANGE_PYRAMID_TELE=""
p2_VVK_CHANGE_PYRAMID_WIDE=""
p2_VVK_CARV_GEAR1="JB9"
p2_VVK_CARV_GEAR2="JB10"
p2_VVK_CARV_GEAR3="JB11"
p2_VVK_CARV_GEAR4="JB12"
p2_VVK_CARV_GEAR5="JB13"
p2_VVK_CARV_GEAR6="JB14"
p2_VVK_CARV_GEARR="JB15"
p2_VVK_MONITOR=""
p2_VVK_PAUSE="JpovB1"
p2_VVK_ORGANIZER="JpovB3"
p2_VVK_MAP_MISSION_SELECTOR="JpovB5"
p2_VVK_ENGINE_BRAKE="JpovB7"

This is not FFB. These are actions.
The problem is the lack of FFB. You're all set at 120%?? This is not good.

Look like a setup for hardcore simulators, which are full of FFB.

-Pedals as a separate (box unchecked)
-Degress of Rotation of 540 ° -900 ° (depending on vehicle type)
Enable-force feedback (box checked)
Overall Effects Strength-90% (50% -90% depending on the plug-in for game, type of vehicle...etc)
Strength-spring effect 0%
Strength-Damper effect 0%
-Enable Centering Spring Games in force feedback (box checked)
Centering spring-strenth 0%
-Allow game to adjust settings (box checked)

This is the setting for harcore simulators. There assumes full function FFB game.
If you have 120 + everywhere, it is a bad game of FFB. This in turn controls the base G25 of software, because it would game no FFB.

This part

-Strength-spring effect
-Strength-damper effect
-Enable Centering Spring Games in force feedback
Spring-Centering, strenth
-Allow game to adjust settings
(It is there for the games with bad FFB. Steroids for the game with a mediocre FFB. But it will never be alright then.)

The quality of simulations with full FFB does not need this set. It should be at 0%. This setting, then the game takes full control over the steering wheel. And then there is no mutual conflict in both settings (game controllers FFB /own FFB game)

I would advise SoftLab. Play a full game with FFB. For example, LFS Live for speed or rF or sims from SimBin. He felt as a function steering wheel with full FFB. It is incomparable..

To be fair, USA_Trucker never said the FFB was perfect :) He just said his G25 worked perfectly which - I assume - just means he's happy with how he's got everything set up. Also, I very much doubt that USA_Trucker has ever played a proper racing sim so he may well be happy with the FFB in RnR. You're absolutely right in your post, but it all depends on what you're used to and what you expect from the game :) I'm a simracer myself so I have no doubt that the FFB in RnR will feel horrible to me. I would probably just turn it off completely if I ever got the game :D

:) But rig n roll calls himself SIMULATOR. :) And this is not speculation. Simulator is everything most realistic as possible. This is a standart aspect (full of good FFB) for the game what he called a simulator. And this is just one aspect, one point. RnR It lacks the millions of other components. In order to enable the simulator to say ...

@Pook

Listen, I'm not going to get into an argument with you about it. You ask for something, and I gave it to you. I also stated what my FFB Categories were set to. This works for ME. I'm not a computer genius, but I have a better then average knowledge. I can't answer for your system, or anybody else's. If you don't like what I posted, then I'll just simply delete it. I tried to answer your question the best I could. You are not exactly easy to understand. So, I just won't respond to you any more.

We all get the point that you, and others don't like the game, and you're beating a dead horse. I don't seem to have all the bugs some people are experiencing. I can also over-look a lot of things that are not done correctly. I don't post all the the bad things because, most have already done so, and quite frequently. There are some good points to this game too. It's not ALL bad. I have even gotten over the competition deliveries, as they are fairly easy to beat.

@Obsolum

I think I did use the word perfect, but what I meant was for ME. You're right, I don't play racing games. What I also meant by the word perfect, is that I can feel the steady vibrations on the steering wheel (as you do in a real truck). I feel the FFB on curbs, bumps, accidents, and off-road. To me, this is just right. I didn't do all the adjustments, my brother helped with a lot of it. I just tweaked minor things that I like. Hey, I tried to help Pook, now let him figure it out.

USA Trucker
I guess we understand. I do not think badly or offensively. Hmm. But it was not meant to attack you. Sry. This is probably my bad english:(

USA Trucker i very much share the same view as yourself towards this game / simulator and found that my logitech G25 has no fualts with in the game at all and was amazed that RnR even picked up the right settings and i also found that i tweaked a couple of the key bindings a bit just to make it work for me on the wheel and the hassel with the FFB is almost non existant for me but is very much at a normal level compared to other games / Driving Simulators .

if anoyone would like my setup details for the wheel feel free to pm me and i would more than happy to offer my advice on the key bindings .

@Dnkiwi

Thanks, I was beginning to think I was the only one. In addition to your public response, I had 2 PM's that indicated the same as you. I encouraged them to go public, but one said "I don't want to fuel the fire of ignorance". So, I just let it go at that. Yours works, along with my brother, mine, and those two PM's. I'm willing to bet that there are more out there.

Ah, here we are with the mysterious individuals PM'ing USA_Trucker again :grin: Say, are those the same ones who said the gearbox and clutch implementation were very realistic, complete with grinding noises and everything? :-P

One of them yes. The other is fairly new to the forum. They're not mysterious. I just don't give names out, unless they wish to. I tried to encourage this (public broadcasting), so that people would know that the G25 does work if tweaked, but that's their choice. I get lots of PM's, but I only mention the G25 because of the controversy surrounding this topic. There is someone else that likes it, and he made a post about it. I believe it's in the G25 thread going back about 6 months or so.

I'm just trying to point out that some of us got it to work correctly. I have not, to date heard any gear-grinding though. Those that do like, please post it publicly like Dnkiwi did, and that other guy. Dnkiwi, is even willing to show everyone how he got it to work by PM. I would also like to see this done publicly too, so that all can benefit from it. Guys, don't PM me about it. Share the knowledge. I respect your privacy, but this should be put out in the forum, and not solely addressed to me.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the G25 works perfectly with the game. Pook's remarks were about the FFB. And that's always a bit of a grey area; much of it comes down to what you expect and more importantly what you're used to. Being a serious simracer, pook is used to accurately simulated FFB, not canned FFB effects. I seriously doubt RnR actually simulates the forces acting on the wheels of the truck. I don't have the game anymore (got rid of the Russian version) but I'm guessing like 99% of the games out there it probably uses canned effects triggered by certain actions or driving inputs to make you feel stuff. To a novice this will feel pretty good. To an experienced simracer it will feel awful. I guess you could say here that ignorance is, in fact, bliss :)

@Obsolum,

I guess you'll have to give me an example of what you feel with the FFB. I don't play racing games, but I do play FlightSimX. I know what I'm suppose to feel in that game using the the joystick.

I can only logically assume that the feedback you guys are describing on the steering wheel refers to wheel tension, vibrations, and the jolt you would get going over bumps, curves, etc. If this is correct, then as I previously stated I CAN feel all of these. You don't need to be a computer wizard to know how a car, truck, or motorcycle feels when you drive, or ride them. My steering wheel reacts as if I'm driving a real truck. You don't need to play a racing game to experience this. So, what is everyone talking about. Or am I just simply misunderstanding this whole wheel FFB thing??

Alright, if you feel all those things and they feel right to you then great! :grin: Like I said, I never played the game with the G25 so I have no idea how the FFB is. I was only guessing based on pook's remarks.

OK, as long as we're all on the same page now. I have stressed before that I felt all those things once my brother configured it. You guys kept talking about having a racing game to know what you mean. When all you have to be is a driver to know how a vehicle feels, and operates. All kidding aside.

i think pepole need to understand that human error will result in bad FFB as if you stick to the road and use gentle steering with any wheel you will be rewarded for the efforts and i speak from personal experience but i will say that the logitech g25 will work with without tweaking but it comes down your own choice

No argument here.:)

i figured that someome needed to put things right so as a kiwi i feel other pepole may now know the truth and i would be more than happy to post advice on here for setups if the mods are willing to allow it .
and if we share our experiences then we will gain the know how to maybe:rolleyes: 1 day mod this game with our own mods

Why would the Mods give you a problem? Post it. I'm quite sure it would be appreciated by all concerned, especially me. I would love to see your configuration, and compare it to mine. This would be great:!::cool:

PS:
I would advise you to put it in the "Technical Problems & Solutions" Thread. In that area there is another Thread called "Logictech G25". That's a good spot for it, or the Thread called "Controller/Wheel Issues".

ok will do right now

:cool:

my setup is very simple and quick to setup for the G25 on the gear box you have 4 black buttons in a cross pattern and i have the two center one for the turn signal and on the wheel i have the right red button set for boost and the left for horn .
more to come as i decide what other commands i would like to add to wheel as well

I use the silver metal levers on my steering wheel for turning signals, and the red buttons for cruise control, and the horn. It's a lot easier for me, but I thought your were going to get into more detail. Such as your configuration in the Game Controller Settings. What you are describing are the Action Inputs that people can set to their own preference.

Degrees of Rotation,
Overall Effects Strength,
Spring Effects Strength,
Damper Effects Strength,
Centering Spring Strength.

This is the FFB issue we're having. Some claim it does not work with RnR. I know it does.

ok thats all set if you would like to pm me some time i can discuss to idear of having a virtual base with real time CB chat as my self and friend were looking into it as a option for the eurotruck sim

all mine seem to be defualt and it is working well and the FFB is realistic but not over the top
but i am unsure how to get the screenshot right to show my settings

OK, as long as you can confirm that it works, and I'm not imagining things, that's good enough for me.:grin:

yes it sure does sorry for confusion in the previous post

Try alt ,print screen and post the screen on photobucket

Or use the Snipping Tool if you're using Windows 7 (not sure if Vista already had it). Very handy little tool for taking screenshots of windows.

English version purchased from 1C website for those tracking that...=)

The more then one controller issue seems to be true, I have a wheel/pedals (sidewinder precision pro) and a joystick for flight (thrust master something or other) and seemed to have a accelerate/brake issue but not at first. The game seemed read everything fine...couple of races and a few loads later every time I let off the throttle (automatic) the brakes would come on.....I fiddled with the settings to no avail. It was hit and miss for the most part loaded or bobtail it would not remain constant. Eventually I unplugged my joystick and now all seems to be well. Tore up some tires in the process of finding this out and damaged some breaks too....lol

See you all out there but for now I got the hammer down and giving it hell.

You know my rig always pulled a lil to the right and come to think of it after I unplugged my joystick it stopped....lol. Well whata know.....=)

I am running RnR using a Fanatec Porsche 911 wheel, and need an option to invert the force feedback as the wheel gets lighter the more aggressively you turn it - which of course is the opposite of reality, most titles offer the feature to invert the feedback - this sadly does not.

Quite happy with it in most other respects, and it runs ok, if a little choppy. Is there a config file I can attack by hand to try and invert it?

Thanks :)

So nobody, no representitive of 1C has an answer, even a negative - sorry there is no option to invert the feedback.

Spectacular customer service gentlemen, well done indeed. First and last 1C product for me.

It could be that none of us have an acceptable answer to your question. It's not that we're ignoring you. Although we can, and have answered many technical questions, some are just out of our reach, and we can only hope that one of our forum members can assist you, or you can visit our support site Here.

I have never used the fanatec wheel but isn't there an option in the settings to invert the feedback in the fanatec profile. I'm assuming you have a profile screen like the logitech one

What do you guys find works well

Mine are
Rotation 720

Overall Strength 60%
Spring Effect 40%
Damper Effect 40%

Centering Spring OFF

Can you post yours please

I liked the way my brothers' felt. So I copied his.

Mine are:

Rotation 200
Overall Strength 120
Spring Effect 100
Damper Effect 100
Centering Spring 100

Problem with the Mouse!!!
 

Hi everyone,
I have waited long for this play and now I have bought it to myself, however, I have a big problem!

If I begin the play and in the main menu am, however, I see the cursor I cannot move him!

If I the mouse move I can only guess where the pointer just is and comes thus to the single menu points.

I have anew installed the play once again, however, the problem is the same one.

Here I have made sometimes a video, however, in the video no cursor is to be seen funny enough.

http://yfrog.com/j9rnr2010062220314170aviz

One sees only like I can select the single menu points.

I have bought the German version from "Rig n Roll" (Version Number: 3.0.2.2680) a shop yesterday.

My PC:

Windows 7 64 bits
Acer Intel i7 2.80 GHz
8.00 GB DDR 3 RAM
2000 GB HDD
Nvidia Geforce GTX480 1536 mb
Driver (197.75)

It would be nice if to her to me with my problem could help.
If this excuses please my bad English I have this text with .online-translator.com
translates there I no German Support I have been found in could turn.

I have had this problem with other games. I fixed it by disconnecting other control devices. Such as joystick, 360 pads, etc. It does function well with a mouse, and steering-wheel. Also make sure your mouse is connected securely, and if wireless make sure your battery is good, as stupid as it may sound. You would be surprised at how some of the simplest things work.

There are no other control devices on my PC, and it's a Cable Mouse from Logitech.;)

I hope i can play the Game next time....

EDIT:

I have update my Nvidia Drive from 197.75 to 257.21 (from 15.06.2010) No effect!

Install Logitech's Setpoint for your mouse: Windows 7 x64

it is on my PC for a while!!!

But the effect is the same.:mad:

I think it's a bug in the Game but any other games are running with my Mouse.

But it's a very big Problem becouse a cant play the Game without Mouse :-)

I cannot change the settings from the game in the Main Menü or get a driver Profil.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309703/en-us

Try these methods.. ;)

Ok

I am at work in the Moment!
I try it later.Thank you.

I give you a feedback.

I have solved the problem!

One lies with the type-size in "Windows 7" system control can change.
I had put the type-size on 140% because I have a very big monitor.
With 140% of percent I had I the problem with the missing cursor as me again 100% has chosen the cursor is there in the play again and moves also!
So it is the type-size in the Windows Setup!

Thank you to everybody for the help!

Glad to hear you got it going. Enjoy.:grin: