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edal86 11-08-2009 12:24 PM

*Ace of Aces PS3 Tournament - Final & Prizes!!*
 
------------------------------------- A C E . O F . A C E S . T O U R N A M E N T ---------------------------------------------

Please check out my other tournament "BATTLE FOR EUROPE", Please JOIN :)
** just click here -----> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=11526

*************************************** ATTENTION ALL ***********************************
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** Regarding Planes **

Only the following are allowed:

* Hurricane
* Spitfire all series
* Bf 109 all series
* Fw 190 all series
* Ta 152 H-1
* La5, La7
* Yak all series
* P-47
* P-51 (b & d)
* MC 202

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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Thank you for your support :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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edal86 11-08-2009 01:06 PM

Bulletin board :)
 
----BACKGROUND----

** Birth of Project **

- To be brief, I gave up smoking several months ago and I am proud of this. I have decided to use the money, that I would have wasted on smokes, to add a little excitement and life back to this game that I have followed for 2 years already, since il2 1946.

- Also, the Holidays are near and what better time to give?

- Furthermore, I dont think I have ever had a better time and communication with a gaming community as I have with this one. YOU GUYS ARE GREAT :)

** Idea Origination **

- The whole competition idea came to me after reading a comment from the " Who's the best pilot you've met in the skies?" thread. Hence, Ace of Aces PS3 Tournament.

- I noticed some of you received well my first "Beat me Reward" competition but I think the rest of you PS3 sim players were a little intimidated. So, instead of all participants waiting to play me, I want all you to be able to participate with each other.

--------------------- COMPLETE DETAILS OF THE RULES -----------------------------------------------
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* In case of a DRAW in any of the 30 minute Eliminatory Stage Matches or Final, I will host an extra 10 minute match for those who had the DRAW. Then, I will go to a corner of the map so I wont interfere in the DUEL. Then, those players who had the DRAW will engage and whoever's name (on the bottom of the screen) I read first that crashes or gets killed will loose the match and be eliminated.
- The same goes for me If I tie with any of you, TRK29 will host that extra 10 minute match (if it is ok with him) since we all trust him. In the case that TRK29 happens to be the person I tie with, then he and I will have to agree on whom we want to be referee.

- It is important for me to have all the rules ready before Tournament so there is no speculation that I am cheating. (I will not change any of the rules once the tournament has started)
- Also, all rules apply to every single participant including me, No rule will be Bent for NO ONE.


STATISTICS WILL INCLUDE:

* American Continent Player Standings (player name. kills, deaths, other)
* UK Player Standings (player name, kills, deaths, other)
* Rest of Europe Player Standings (player name, kills, deaths, other)
* International Killers (from players with most kills to players with the least kills)
* International Untouchable Ace (this will be done by subtracting deaths from kills)
* Tournament's Most Popular Plane (which plane players use the most) will list all planes used.


:)-------------------:)--------------------:)--- RULES IN FRENCH--:)------------------:)----------------:)

Règles (toutes violation entraînera une défaite 0-3)
-soyez respectueux en tout temps-vous ne pouvez choisir que des chasseurs. Les jets, bombardiers et I-153 sont interdits
-aucunes roquettes
-les bombes sont allouées seulement si vous croyez qu’elles améliorent les performances de votre avion (par contre, si vous larguez même une seule bombe, vous perdrez le match 0-3)
-vous ne pouvez tirer sur les cibles terrestres parce que cela modifierait le pointage
-visitez cette page fréquemment, elle sera rafraîchit régulièrement et servira de bulletin

Dispositions –settings- (veuillez rapporter toutes infractions à celles-ci, le match sera annulé le cas échéant)
-Simulation seulement
-Cartes : vous devez poster votre carte favorite avant vendredi le 13 novembre
-Température : vous pouvez choisir la température que vous voulez
-Temps : vous ne pouvez choisir la nuit
-Limite de temps : le premier stage de groupe sera joué en match de 20 minutes. Les stage éliminatoire et final seront de 30 minutes
-Strike : les match seront joué dans le mode strike. Ainsi un crash enlèvera un ticket à votre score. Aussi, cela permet au joueur ayant crashé de ressusciter au dessus de sa propre base.
-Essence et munitions limitées : alors ne tirez pas comme des dingues parce que la seule façon de faire le plein est de crasher, ce qui vous enlèvera un ticket-Nombre de joueur : choisissez 2 joueur ainsi personne ne pourra se joindre à vous lors de la préparation au vol (recommandation seulement)

Première partie du tournoi : Stage de groupe (3 match par semaine)
- match de 20 minutes
-vous jouerez 2 fois contre chaque membre de votre groupe (local et invité). C’est pourquoi il est important de poster votre carte favorite.
-les 4 premiers de chaque groupe passeront automatiquement au stage éliminatoire (sujet à changement dépendamment du nombre de joueurs inscrit)
-le 5ieme de chaque groupe aura l’opportunité de se qualifier pour le stage éliminatoire-les points cesseront d’être cumulés une fois ce stage terminé

Deuxième partie du tournoi : Stage éliminatoire (2 match par semaine)
-match de 30 minutes-matches simples; vous perdez vous êtes éliminé
-16 joueurs passeront à ce stage. Il est important que vous tentiez de vous qualifier dans le top 3 afin que vous puissiez vous battre contre les 4e et 5e places des autres groupes (plus d’info à venir)
-dans ce stage, quiconque possède le moins de points sera l’hote et choisira donc l’emplacement et les settings

Matches et flexibilité d’horaires (important, à lire)
-le vainqueur du match est responsable de faire parvenir les résultats à edal86. Pour se faire, utiliser l’option camera dans le menu général du PS3 et prendre un cliché du sommaire de mission et faire parvenir à edal86 par PSN. Sans cliché le match ne comptera pas.
-soyez certains de savoir comment prendre des cliché avant samedi le 14. Pour de l’aide, poster ici.
-la communication est vitale; si vous ne répondez pas au challenge dans la semaine, vous déclarer automatiquement forfait (défaite 0-3). Par contre, si vous savez à l’avance que vous ne pourrez pas jouer votre match dans la semaine, svp contactez edal86 et/ou votre adversaire le plus tôt possible
-un nouvel horaire sera affiché à toutes les semaines à partir du 14 novembre
-l’horaire hebdomadaire vous indiquera vos 3 adversaires à affronter pour cette semaine. Pour les stages éliminatoire et final, vous aurez 3 jours pour contacter et affronter l’adversaire indiqué à l’horaire.

Pointage
-faire crasher l’adversaire est ce qui compte. Chaque fois que celui
-ci s’écrase vous donnera un point
-dans le cas où vous épuisez vos munitions, vous ne serez pas pénalisé si vous décidez d’emboutir votre adversaireles

1ere, 2e et 3e place remportent des prix
(…)

*dans le cas d’un match nul lors du stage éliminatoire et final, une session sera tenue par soit edal86 ou trk29 qui jouera le rôle d’arbitre observateur sans influencer la partie. Le premier nom que l’arbitre verra apparaître (joueur qui crash) perdra le match instantanément et sera éliminé.


---- TRANSLATED BY PHILABONG2

:)---------------------:)---------------------------------- BE SURE TO READ IT ALL PLEASE --------------------------------------

- EDAL86

DH1979 11-08-2009 01:41 PM

Count me in mate would love in on this. PSN ID Dinho28 GMT England

haitch40 11-08-2009 01:57 PM

ok im in
psn haitch40
location lincolnshire uk
time zone gmt
playing times
weekends and school holidays 10am to 6pm gmt
normal days (excluding tuesdays and thursdays cos im buisy those nights) 4pm to 6pm gmt
no games can run after 6pm even if they have already started because my mum goes mental
btw about the tryouts i know you are going to fly the worst plane in the game but man your the best pilot in the game (so ive heard)

P-51 11-08-2009 02:02 PM

Count me in! is this a team thing?

reaper1526, UK links, GMT

Prefrably not this week coming as have exams and am away at weekend.. Also busy on thursdays..

haitch40 11-08-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-51 (Post 118212)
Count me in! is this a team thing?

reaper1526, UK links, GMT

Prefrably not this week coming as have exams and am away at weekend.. Also busy on thursdays..

i dont think this is a team thing if it was we would win for sure. VAS against a few guys desperately trying to make a team

edal86 11-08-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-51 (Post 118212)
Count me in! is this a team thing?

reaper1526, UK links, GMT

Prefrably not this week coming as have exams and am away at weekend.. Also busy on thursdays..

This will be a 1 vs 1 tournament all the way, you will be representing only yourself. Dont worry about the scoring system because I have a solution for it ;)

Glad to have VAS members invade it though, I always wanted to bring you guys back from where ever you were hiding

P-51 11-08-2009 04:10 PM

Ok, i got caught up in Uncharted 2... So whens it starting?

edal86 11-08-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haitch40 (Post 118211)
btw about the tryouts i know you are going to fly the worst plane in the game but man your the best pilot in the game (so ive heard)

Dont worry, you will do just fine :)

However, If you want to end up in at least the top 5, then you are going to have to practice more on Sim, if you see me online invite me I will gladly help you practice, that goes for everyone else.

irrelevant 11-08-2009 04:15 PM

count me in!

irrelevant24, american, central time (-6 GMT)

as a side note, i have to commend you edal. not only are you coming up with creative ideas for competition, you're using your own money to reward players for success. that, and you're certainly bound to encourage more people to play sim with competitions like this.

so, a big THANK YOU goes out to you. ;)

trk29 11-08-2009 04:19 PM

Excellent idea edal I love this can't wait for it to start. Thanks for taking the time and money to do this.

I will sticky this thread until tournament is over so it doesn't get lost in the forum!

edal86 11-08-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-51 (Post 118232)
Ok, i got caught up in Uncharted 2... So whens it starting?

So far it looks like this tournament has a future, If it continues like this it will start as scheduled, November 16, perhaps sooner If I get things to run as I hope. I want to allow players to see post so they can participate, also this allows extra time to practice.

Dont worry, I still need to post the FULL DETAILS, they are completed but will post around 3-4 pm pacific time

edal86 11-08-2009 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 118237)
Excellent idea edal I love this can't wait for it to start. Thanks for taking the time and money to do this.

I will sticky this thread until tournament is over so it doesn't get lost in the forum!

Im glad that you received this idea well my friend, thanks about the sticky it will be of great help.

you are east coast US right?

P-51 11-08-2009 04:25 PM

But that be middle of the night here! And i have an exam tomorrow morning:( so cant look till this time tomorrow...

edal86 11-08-2009 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 118235)
count me in!

irrelevant24, american, central time (-6 GMT)

as a side note, i have to commend you edal. not only are you coming up with creative ideas for competition, you're using your own money to reward players for success. that, and you're certainly bound to encourage more people to play sim with competitions like this.

so, a big THANK YOU goes out to you. ;)

oh, absolutely. No tryouts needed from you nor Trk29, you have already proven yourselves enough ;)

edal86 11-08-2009 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-51 (Post 118240)
But that be middle of the night here! And i have an exam tomorrow morning:( so cant look till this time tomorrow...

No worries, I will post the FULL DETAILS earlier if I can, thing is I am using my PS3 right now, and cant post what I want. I am waiting for my girlfriend to come back from Mexico, around that time, so I can use her computer. Any news I will let you know personally via PSN message my friend dont worry

P-51 11-08-2009 04:37 PM

Im on PS3 aswell... So flippin slow...
Ok mate :D thanks!
If you get ya but online ill do the trial now?

trk29 11-08-2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 118239)
Im glad that you received this idea well my friend, thanks about the sticky it will be of great help.

you are east coast US right?

Correct.


PSN: trk29
Location: US
Time: EST
map: stalingrad

haitch40 11-08-2009 05:00 PM

wish i had some money to give id give £50 to anyone who can take me out in 1v1 realistic cta match but im broke

edal86 11-08-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haitch40 (Post 118252)
wish i had some money to give id give £50 to anyone who can take me out in 1v1 realistic cta match but im broke

you should try doing one, some players just want to have fun and dont care about any prize like my friend kozzmo who rejected the $20 reward for beating me so that my previous competition could continue.

just participate, and practice with us when ever you see us around. Practice makes the master my friend :)

P-51 11-08-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 118257)
you should try doing one, some players just want to have fun and dont care about any prize like my friend kozzmo who rejected the $20 reward for beating me so that my previous competition could continue.

just participate, and practice with us when ever you see us around. Practice makes the master my friend :)

Ill be happy to help! Give me a mail if you see me!

Spitfire23 11-08-2009 05:56 PM

It really is Fantastic to see someone have so much passion for a community.

Count me in,

PSN: SubaruGaz
Location: UK
Time: GMT:0

edal86 11-08-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire23 (Post 118265)
It really is Fantastic to see someone have so much passion for a community.

Count me in,

PSN: SubaruGaz
Location: UK
Time: GMT:0

You are in with no doubt :)

Do I really have to say this? You dont need tryout, how can my personal nemesis need one? lol

Welcome aboard my friend ;)

philabong2 11-08-2009 07:08 PM

Edal86 for president!!! good work keeping this community afloat and entertained with these contests.
Count me in m8
philabong2
canada
EST

Ancient Seraph 11-08-2009 07:15 PM

Just a suggestion: You could use Skoll's site to make a nice overview of the matches. You can keep using this, works just as fine, just hoping that site will come to some use, since it could actually work :). I can put the matches on the calendar for you.
I know it says it's just for XBOX, but there haven't been any XBOX matches set up lately, so I'm hoping Skoll won't be angry at me :P.

Mage_016 11-08-2009 08:11 PM

You can count me in too.

PSN: Mage_016
FINLAND
GMT: +2

Im hoping that u dont have too tight schedule for this tournament. I have so random times when I can play. Best times r mostly at weekends.

kozzm0 11-08-2009 08:22 PM

I am in of course.

Will this be elimination tournament-type, or round robin

And are there rules for planes or does everyone just get their choice of spit, hurricane or la7?

I think the score should be the number of opponent's deaths, as that's the only way to make limited f/a work, and also because it makes it more interesting trying to push the envelope.

On the one hand, if someone crashes, it doesn't mean their opponent killed them; but on the other hand it DOES mean they crashed and their opponent didn't, which is just as bad, even if it's not intentional... if you're not shot down, you shouldn't crash.

I'm mentioning this cause I was online about 6 hours today and damned if everybody doesn't still love to crash, more now than ever, in those 3 and 4 player free-for-alls. Of course most of them were unscored kills, damaged wings, etc but there was still plenty of bad flying, including on my part, it's hard to avoid in dogfight mode.

also today was about the busiest I've seen yet in terms of matches going on, several at once most of the time. I could maybe find a few people to join this tournament. Not all speak English though.

<edit> nationality USA, time zone us pacific, GMT-8.

and hey, what happens if you win, do you give the prize to yourself?

edal86 11-08-2009 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 118277)
Just a suggestion: You could use Skoll's site to make a nice overview of the matches. You can keep using this, works just as fine, just hoping that site will come to some use, since it could actually work :). I can put the matches on the calendar for you.
I know it says it's just for XBOX, but there haven't been any XBOX matches set up lately, so I'm hoping Skoll won't be angry at me :P.

Thank you very much for the offer, however, I wont take it because I want to keep this as simple as possible for all participants. Some of the participants have trouble with the English Language and I dont want to confuse them by sending them to other sites in order to know who or when they are playing next.

** Please Note All Participants**
- Always check first page of this thread
- I will regularly edit the first 2 posts (I will use them as a Bulletin Board)
- Schedule, Statistics, and any Update will be found There


Vieras,
Glad you could join us. Dont worry about schedule yet, you will see that it will be very organized and strict, as well as flexible. :)

Philabong,
Finally, you appear. I have a shortage of North Americans my Canadian Friend :)

edal86 11-08-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kozzm0 (Post 118284)
I am in of course.

Will this be elimination tournament-type, or round robin

And are there rules for planes or does everyone just get their choice of spit, hurricane or la7?

I think the score should be the number of opponent's deaths, as that's the only way to make limited f/a work, and also because it makes it more interesting trying to push the envelope.

On the one hand, if someone crashes, it doesn't mean their opponent killed them; but on the other hand it DOES mean they crashed and their opponent didn't, which is just as bad, even if it's not intentional... if you're not shot down, you shouldn't crash.

I'm mentioning this cause I was online about 6 hours today and damned if everybody doesn't still love to crash, more now than ever, in those 3 and 4 player free-for-alls. Of course most of them were unscored kills, damaged wings, etc but there was still plenty of bad flying, including on my part, it's hard to avoid in dogfight mode.

also today was about the busiest I've seen yet in terms of matches going on, several at once most of the time. I could maybe find a few people to join this tournament. Not all speak English though.

Kozzmo, for those of you that dont know him, is a great pilot and fast learner. I admit I under estimated him and he got the best of me. My latest defeat was against him, there is a video of this battle that I will post. Welcome my friend :)

What is your Nationality, and Time Zone?
Yes, I took some of your feedback from the previous competition. I will post FULL DETAILS in a bit.

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 11-08-2009 09:18 PM

O hell yes! I'm in!

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx
Canada
PST

Spitfire23 11-09-2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 118269)
You are in with no doubt :)

Do I really have to say this? You dont need tryout, how can my personal nemesis need one? lol

Welcome aboard my friend ;)

Hahaha, Ohhh your'e too kind ;)

edal86 11-09-2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kozzm0 (Post 118284)
and hey, what happens if you win, do you give the prize to yourself?

Yes, My girlfriend promised me that she would buy me a game if I won lol, too bad I promised her to take her to Disneyland on Christmas if I won 1st place :

maninovka 11-09-2009 08:16 AM

Hell:evil:o edal86, i am here

PSN - maninovka
Nationality - Czech Republic
Time zone - GMT +1
Play time - every day 11 pm - 2 am

P.S. - my english is really very bad - sry - i have little problem with translate this thread (with detailed) - but its ok - i underrstand -kill all aces :-)))

Beamjimmy 11-09-2009 09:42 AM

Great Idea. I enroll.

PSN ID: Beamjimmy
Location: Austria GMT +1
time enough

Rhah 11-09-2009 12:30 PM

Ok, count me in. However, I can't do matches Friday, saturday, and sunday's. And i'm in the UK so its normal GMT for me.

Edal86, drop me a line if you see me online so we can do the tryout requirements thing.

P-51 11-09-2009 03:46 PM

Have i missed the full details?
Edit: Duhh.. Just found it :P
Ill get back with maps etc. But by 'times' do you mean morning evening etc in game?

P-51 11-09-2009 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haitch40 (Post 118465)
edal how are you going to scrutenize this because there are some greedy people who might say they won when they didnt so they get $70

It says screenshot up top does it not?

haitch40 11-09-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-51 (Post 118466)
It says screenshot up top does it not?

oh yea oops

P-51 11-09-2009 04:19 PM

No worries i had a brain fart earlier..

InfiniteStates 11-09-2009 05:31 PM

Sweet idea :) Kudos to edal!

PSN: InfiniteStates
Location: London, UK
Timezone: GMT

Map: Sicily, evening, hazy


Man, I'm going to have to practise - land lubber games like Borderlands and Flashpoint are making my wings shrink!

miatar 11-09-2009 07:18 PM

count me in, not sure I'm going to pass your entry requirement though. You, a pea shooter standing on a mole hill and you'll blow me out of the sky...:(
GMT time zone let me know when you want to torture me.

edal86 11-09-2009 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beamjimmy (Post 118385)
Great Idea. I enroll.

PSN ID: Beamjimmy
Location: Austria GMT +1
time enough

hi,
Beamjimmy, I have never seen you around could you please tell us something about yourself?

*this is only to prevent no one decides to create multiple accounts se they can have more chances at winning and because I see that you created an account this month.

(can anyone translate this to german in case he does not understand?)

edal86 11-09-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miatar (Post 118512)
count me in, not sure I'm going to pass your entry requirement though. You, a pea shooter standing on a mole hill and you'll blow me out of the sky...:(
GMT time zone let me know when you want to torture me.

THIS GOES TO EVERYONE

Tryouts are only intended for to see that you can fly on SIMULATION difficulty. Furthermore, I will mainly be observing that you dont stall out, or spin out, all the time with no real reason to do so (example: if you stall out all the time and end up crashing 5 times or so, with no reason, then this will affect the statistics, this is what I dont want, since, your opponent's crashes = your kills)

* NOTE : if you have the problem mentioned above, please check the STICKY THREAD " A beginner's Guide to the Planes" by Ancient Seraph.

edal86 11-09-2009 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhah (Post 118427)
Ok, count me in. However, I can't do matches Friday, saturday, and sunday's. And i'm in the UK so its normal GMT for me.

Edal86, drop me a line if you see me online so we can do the tryout requirements thing.

No worries, YOU my friend need no Tryout

edal86 11-09-2009 08:43 PM

I realize that the FULL DETAILS post came out a little too small and also you guys are having trouble reading it because of backgroud photo, So I will correct this when I get out of school.

Also, please check THE FIRST POST OF THIS THREAD in a bit, I need your vote on something :)

trk29 11-09-2009 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 118522)
hi,
Beamjimmy, I have never seen you around could you please tell us something about yourself?

*this is only to prevent no one decides to create multiple accounts se they can have more chances at winning and because I see that you created an account this month.

(can anyone translate this to german in case he does not understand?)

I played him today.

philabong2 11-09-2009 10:15 PM

hey guys, just a little question/suggestion here:
could we take the jets out of this competition. I may have a bias against them cause i dont fly them (i think flying a jet plane with no blackout/redout is kinda playin any arcade game... just my opinion) but matching a prop plane against a jet will make for either a total domination of the jet over his opponent or a match ending 0-0; if the prop flies well, he'll avoid the shots easily but might never get any clears shots at his opponent... I think this should be considered even tho these r 20min matches

any thoughts?

P.S.: Edal86-the details r small but i can see them perfecly

Hrok81 11-09-2009 11:14 PM

Cheers mate, count me in.
I'm definitely rusty but if I can pass the tryout I'll be glad to participate!!

Great idea by the way.

Location Mantova, Italy
GMT +1

Ancient Seraph 11-09-2009 11:25 PM

Just wanted to say, kudos for organisation. Very well done and thought through. Too bad I can't buy a PS3 for that 70 bucks, else I'd have given it a shot :P.
EDIT: Just read the referral to my guide, awesome :cool:.

edal86 11-10-2009 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 118551)
Just wanted to say, kudos for organisation. Very well done and thought through. Too bad I can't buy a PS3 for that 70 bucks, else I'd have given it a shot :P.
EDIT: Just read the referral to my guide, awesome :cool:.

:) if can get a friend or someone to let you borrow a ps3 you are very welcome to join. You will be my own special guest, no tryout required.


**ALL PARTICIPANTS CHECK FIRST PAGE, IT HAS BEEN UPDATED, PLEASE VOTE BY POSTING, THANK YOU**

philabong2 11-10-2009 06:50 AM

if its not much harder to organize, I think option A would be more fun

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 11-10-2009 06:59 AM

I like option B, sounds cool.

kozzm0 11-10-2009 08:31 AM

Wouldn't option A mean playing 19 matches before elimination

if so, option B would be better.

As for eliminating jets, I'd rather eliminate the I-16. But under the rules, it doesn't matter much. The jets have light ammo loads, if they just spend 20 minutes running away, well that's 1 point for not being suicidal, but the other 2 points forsaken for wasting the Luftwaffe's fuel without getting a kill.

After spending a 20 minute dogfight with 1941 planes against an I-16, my attitude towards I-16 and I-153 will be to just ignore it and fly around it. I'll just fly up to 3000 m right above it and dive, then let it watch me disappear.

edal86 11-10-2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kozzm0 (Post 118610)
Wouldn't option A mean playing 19 matches before elimination

if so, option B would be better.

As for eliminating jets, I'd rather eliminate the I-16. But under the rules, it doesn't matter much. The jets have light ammo loads, if they just spend 20 minutes running away, well that's 1 point for not being suicidal, but the other 2 points forsaken for wasting the Luftwaffe's fuel without getting a kill.

After spending a 20 minute dogfight with 1941 planes against an I-16, my attitude towards I-16 and I-153 will be to just ignore it and fly around it. I'll just fly up to 3000 m right above it and dive, then let it watch me disappear.

No, Option A means you will only play with those members of your group (about 10 matches), it will be almost the same as playing each player of group 2 times on smaller groups (8 matches)

I agree, I-153 cannot be out turned, and jets cannot be outrun. they are extremes, 1. burn and turn, the other Boom and Zoom.

* against an I-153 you can Boom and Zoom, and against a Jet you can evade and turn quickly on his tail and try to shoot at him.

- So, I cant prohibit the use of any of the two because they could be part of someone's tactics.
(what I do when someone uses a jet is to use a jet myself, simple as that)

-BTW, I dont see many players using jets anyway (what do you guys think?)

- should I not allow jets?

Varcus2 11-10-2009 11:46 AM

The French is in the place..:)
I m ready for the dogfight of course!
Id psn: Varcus2
I prefer the B proposition, and my my prefer map is Dover!

edal86 11-10-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varcus2 (Post 118652)
The French is in the place..:)
I m ready for the dogfight of course!
Id psn: Varcus2
I prefer the B proposition, and my my prefer map is Dover!

FINALLY, it only took me 20 please join messages lol

welcome, my friend, however, you are not the only french on the competition :)

you dont need tryout I know that you know how to fly, thanks for joining

Beamjimmy 11-10-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 118522)
hi,
Beamjimmy, I have never seen you around could you please tell us something about yourself?

*this is only to prevent no one decides to create multiple accounts se they can have more chances at winning and because I see that you created an account this month.

(can anyone translate this to german in case he does not understand?)

Well, I guess I'm mostly on the game when you guys are asleep (GMT +1 = my time zone). I'm playing IL-2 since it came out. Yesterday I stood up untill 4 am and met a lot of people that are enlisted. Some may have seen me, like trk said. philabong knows me as well, we've also played together.
I'm flexible in time because Im at university :)
I have just one account - Beamjimmy - and when I crash in matches its never on purpose. When my BF109-K4 gets a hole in a wing it becomes pretty uncontrollable at that point (for me).
I didn't enlist because I think I'm an ace and can compete with the best guys on this list but just for the tournament. This is the first tournament I've seen for IL-2 and it gives a good reason to play the game and get into the community.
See you!

PS:
favourite map: dover at daytime - best weather settings
I prefer option B

edal86 11-10-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beamjimmy (Post 118654)
Well, I guess I'm mostly on the game when you guys are asleep (GMT +1 = my time zone). I'm playing IL-2 since it came out. Yesterday I stood up untill 4 am and met a lot of people that are enlisted. Some may have seen me, like trk said. philabong knows me as well, we've also played together.
I'm flexible in time because Im at university :)
I have just one account - Beamjimmy - and when I crash in matches its never on purpose. When my BF109-K4 gets a hole in a wing it becomes pretty uncontrollable at that point (for me).
I didn't enlist because I think I'm an ace and can compete with the best guys on this list but just for the tournament. This is the first tournament I've seen for IL-2 and it gives a good reason to play the game.
See you!

Thanks, welcome to the forum and to the tournament.

** NOTE ALL PARTICIPANTS: Dont worry about time differences, all groups are separated so that all players in a group share the same time zone, this will make it easier to find them (Eliminatory Stage is only exception because it will be a mixture of all players, but eliminatory stage is a very short stage)**

Rhah 11-10-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 118526)
No worries, YOU my friend need no Tryout

Cheers dude, much appreciated :)



Just one quick question though; are you going to wait till after the patch to start this up?
If the patch does as intended, it will definitely help with the scoring situation..

Mage_016 11-10-2009 01:06 PM

Edal u wanted to know favourite map, there is none but if I have to mention one:
Stalingrad city. Weather good and time at morning.

Rhah 11-10-2009 01:48 PM

Another thing regarding maps... it might be best to avoid any maps where one player starts over the sea, and the other over land (Dover, Sicily etc)
Because its easier to spot players over the sea it could give one player the advantage. Personally I find it quite difficult to spot players from above over land, whereas over the sea you can pick out the target a lot easier.

maninovka 11-10-2009 01:48 PM

Hi edal,
i vote option A

I understand - perhaps - english:confused:

Steyr_amr 11-10-2009 02:04 PM

I'm up for it if allowed

Northern Ireland
GMT + 0
Evenings and weekends mostly

As for the format discussion I don't mind which way it's run, better and more experienced people than I can decide that. If you notice me online PM me to commence the tryout whenever it suits you, even if I'm playing a difference game.

Spitfire23 11-10-2009 02:14 PM

Yeah i like the sound of A, :)

And regarding Jet fighters, no i do not think they should be allowed. Just incase you get one performing a boom n zoom

kozzm0 11-10-2009 03:07 PM

If there's only 10 matches, then option A is better. If the matches are 20 minutes, there's not much need to play two of them and against a total of only 4 people.

time-zone grouping doesn't work so great for me though... the time of day I'm usually online is mainly when players from Europe are online. Around 10pm to 7am PST which is 6am to 3pm gmt. Cause I work evenings, I'm on a different schedule than my own time zone.

Maninovka: konnen Sie das Deutsch vielleicht?

olife 11-10-2009 03:42 PM

edal86 your idea is very good
i m very interressed to participate and im ok for fight the november 11th between 8:30 pm and 23:45 pm in french time
is it possible ?
if it is not good i understand but i can't play after because of my work
exuse me for my bad english
thanks

InfiniteStates 11-10-2009 04:49 PM

I think the option that was the original sounds the best (I think it was B?).

As for jets, I would say ban them, and I-153s. I think we're all here for some quality WWII dogfighting action, and although those planes fall under that banner, they are at the extremities of the envelope.

They also are both beatable but it makes for a very boring game doing so.


Also, someone mentioned about the patch, and I think the strike match set up is an excellent workaround, so I don't think we need to wait for it. Especially as we don't know when it will arrive. But if it were to be deployed mid-way through the competition, I do think the competition should be reset...


EDIT: also, Olife ^ is a beast in the 153... lol

P-51 11-10-2009 05:16 PM

I vote for the more original one too! (B)
I say limit it to no jets and I-16/153 (that the one?)

edal86 11-10-2009 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhah (Post 118668)
Another thing regarding maps... it might be best to avoid any maps where one player starts over the sea, and the other over land (Dover, Sicily etc)
Because its easier to spot players over the sea it could give one player the advantage. Personally I find it quite difficult to spot players from above over land, whereas over the sea you can pick out the target a lot easier.

- Yes, but this will work fine if you get to play 2 times against each member of your group (1 as local, the other as guest) this means that you get an opportunity to have an advantage 50% of the time (also this is why I am asking you guys to post your favorite map), understand?

- About Jets, I have seen enough posts saying not to use them, so I wont allow them. (too extreme boom and Zoom plane) I want to keep it fair for all.

- How about the I-153? This plane is also an extreme Turning plane (its the only biplane fighter on game) So I would think that it should be treated as the Jet has been treated, what do you guys think?

edal86 11-10-2009 07:24 PM

THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTES :)

BY THE WAY, this Tournament starts Sunday, November 15. NO I, am not waiting for patch. This is why I created this rules about the settings.


Basically,
*in option A, you will play against more people (around 9 different players) before qualifying to the eliminatory stage, however, 1 time against each.

*in option B, you will play against only 4 other players (2 times against each,one as local, the other as guest) before qualifying to the eliminatory stage.

*** welcome steyr_amr and -olife, when you see me online ask me for tryout please.***
- you cant use Jets, and since the I-153 is in Jeopardy, you cant use it either until it is decided if it will be allowed in tournament or not.-

KOZZMO, I WILL CONTACT YOU VIA PSN MESSAGE ABOUT YOUR TIME PROBLEM
-if any one else has this problem please post-

miatar 11-10-2009 07:36 PM

I like the idea of option A but will go with the flow. Ban the biplane I say.

just to confirm if option A goes ahead Berlin favourite map/Uk is the location so GMT obviously;)

and cheers edal86 you're an asset to this community.

edal86 11-10-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miatar (Post 118719)
I like the idea of option A but will go with the flow. Ban the biplane I say.

just to confirm if option A goes ahead Berlin favourite map/Uk is the location so GMT obviously;)

and cheers edal86 you're an asset to this community.

Thank you for your words, also thank you for voting. :)

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 11-10-2009 09:42 PM

sorry, I forgot to post my favourite map. Dover.

philabong2 11-10-2009 10:08 PM

hey edal,
i dont really mind biplanes cause they're really fun to fly actually (had a blast against Olife the other day in a 1 vs 1 dogfight flying one of those), but I guess they fall into the same category as jets: where the only way to have a fair (read fun) game is to choose the exact same plane as your opponent, and i'm also guessing that the effect of g forces would limit the effectivness of manoeuvers used by pilots in real life (or when the patch comes in) which would make these planes alot "less manoeuvrable" (spell check :confused:)

And my fav map is Berlin, weather, good, time day

Cheers m8

P.S.: Once again great job, feels like this game's online mode really picked up this weekend, there was alot of ppl to play, and i think ur playin a big role in this game's second wind.
Salute /;)

edal86 11-11-2009 03:31 AM

*** attention all -- the start of this tournament has changed to (saturday, november 14) ****

***** check first page of this thread, groups are ready and the Complete rules are now posted!!! ******

note: players are in order from A-Z. dont think you are last because I dislike you :)


Any one has any questions??

Are you guys reading everything??

I still need to know the favorite maps of most of you, please read the first 2 posts of this thread

maninovka 11-11-2009 01:12 PM

Hi mate,
my map is Dover (see and land). - weather, good, time day

I am not sure if i got it:confused: - if i am wrong i hope you will help me.
Thanks;)

P.S. - need patch because i have very bad look on hatsvitch - only three direction with my T.Flight Stick X - i dont understand why - i am worry

Rhah 11-11-2009 02:38 PM

One questions (to anyone really).... whats the alternate controller option for control pads... the one that puts the look-around toggle onto the trigger buttons?
After watching Edal86's video of his dogfight with Kozz, and seeing how easy he looks around (presumably on a flight stick hat switch) I feel like I'm at a serious disadvantage using the default controller layout!!

As for favourite maps... well, I'm not a fan of the winter maps, so I'd say Dover, Sicily or Berlin, dawn or dusk (it looks nicer) and preferably half decent weather

Mage_016 11-11-2009 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhah (Post 118861)
One questions (to anyone really).... whats the alternate controller option for control pads... the one that puts the look-around toggle onto the trigger buttons?
After watching Edal86's video of his dogfight with Kozz, and seeing how easy he looks around (presumably on a flight stick hat switch) I feel like I'm at a serious disadvantage using the default controller layout!!

Try aviator setup with pad. With that u can use right stick from pad for looking around without that u have to push it down. I'm using that and it's working for me.

haitch40 11-11-2009 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mage_016 (Post 118879)
Try aviator setup with pad. With that u can use right stick from pad for looking around without that u have to push it down. I'm using that and it's working for me.

i tried it and i hate it because i like 100% throttle when turning but its hard to do that with aviator setup

trk29 11-11-2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mage_016 (Post 118663)
Edal u wanted to know favourite map, there is none but if I have to mention one:
Stalingrad city. Weather good and time at morning.

Yes this is a great map.

I hosted 20 minute sessions (sim mode) on this map with limited F/A yesterday and had about 8 people in each match (good times) I had a blast got to play with philabong a lot. He is good. Nice addition to VAS.

trk29 11-11-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

TRK29 will host that extra 10 minute match (if it is ok with him) since we all trust him. In the case that TRK29 happens to be the person I tie with, then he and I will have to agree on whom we want to be referee.

Yes that will be fine for me to host the session.:-P

irrelevant 11-11-2009 06:35 PM

favorite map: stalingrad, daytime, good weather

somehow i have a feeling i will be making an early exit from this tournament. there is a lot of great competitors and i haven't been flying very well lately, even with practice. oh well, this is all about having fun.

philabong2 11-11-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 118890)
Yes this is a great map.

I hosted 20 minute sessions (sim mode) on this map with limited F/A yesterday and had about 8 people in each match (good times) I had a blast got to play with philabong a lot. He is good. Nice addition to VAS.

Thanks m8 - starting to get the hang of it here.
Cant wait till this thing picks up tho so we'll b able to do some "real" team battles flying along with other V.A.S. team members.

I only played a few team matches with any random wingmen; its fun n all but feels so un-coordinated, pretty much the same thing as a 1 on 1 df. Really looking forward to being someone's wingmen, executing team tactics, setting up traps, stuff like that. Maybe harder but so much more entertaining and rewarding.

edal86 11-11-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhah (Post 118861)
One questions (to anyone really).... whats the alternate controller option for control pads... the one that puts the look-around toggle onto the trigger buttons?
After watching Edal86's video of his dogfight with Kozz, and seeing how easy he looks around (presumably on a flight stick hat switch) I feel like I'm at a serious disadvantage using the default controller layout!!

As for favourite maps... well, I'm not a fan of the winter maps, so I'd say Dover, Sicily or Berlin, dawn or dusk (it looks nicer) and preferably half decent weather

sorry to disappoint you my friend, but I dont use a stick, I use the aviator layout. This is why I recommend it to all. By having freelook on the right analog stick and the throttle and rudder on the R1,R2, L1, L2, I can compare the ease of tracking my opponents to that of using TrackIr on the PC version.

edal86 11-11-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 118894)
Yes that will be fine for me to host the session.:-P

Thank you very much for reading everything, also thanks for helping me on this.

miatar 11-11-2009 07:53 PM

I think I mentioned earlier but to confirm:
Map: Berlin
Conditions: Good/Daytime

Also how flexible are the tournament schedules? I know it could add an infinite amount of hassle to get everyone online at the right time but I expect we all have external pressures/commitments that if ignored would make coming bottom of the league and being named and shamed a stroll in the park!

miatar 11-11-2009 08:00 PM

ok feel stupid just re-read the rules again:(

edal86 11-11-2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 118911)
favorite map: stalingrad, daytime, good weather

somehow i have a feeling i will be making an early exit from this tournament. there is a lot of great competitors and i haven't been flying very well lately, even with practice. oh well, this is all about having fun.

I would not worry to much about not qualifying, instead think positively. Consider that there are 20 participants and of those 20, 16 will pass (so, only 4 wont pass). Try your best (this goes to everyone) it is more likely that you will qualify to the Eliminatory Stage than not.

- Think of it like this, you have an 80% chance of qualifying, is that not a big chance or what?

* recommendation to do well are:
- practice on Aviator Layout if you are not yet using it (watch my video to see why this is advantage)
- Be sure to visit this thread regularly, so that you dont miss any matches. (I have a feeling that some will forget about checking for news and will end up forfeiting a match or two)
- Add all of the Participants and practice with them under the tournament's settings (Get used to your map, and exploit any advantage it may give)

A thought:
I know many of you are excited about Call of Duty MW2 release, I also have a copy of this game already, but, personally, I am more excited about this tournament than playing CoD MW2 (I barely have played it). CoD MW2 will always have thousands of people ready to play (night or day), you will all have PLENTY, I MEAN PLENTY of time to work on increasing your rank. Please dont forget about this competition, get into it, practice.

edal86 11-11-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miatar (Post 118934)
ok feel stupid just re-read the rules again:(

Dont worry.

I believe the rules are well organize and cover most problems. I think, if we all follow them, this competition will run flawless. This is why I always type "Read the First Page Regularly Because I Will Post Everything There, I Will Use It As A Bulletin Board"

Does any of you have a problem with any part of the rules??

- the reason that I divided the groups like that is so that we can all find our opponents online more easy.

philabong2 11-11-2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 118939)
Dont worry.

I believe the rules are well organize and cover most problems. I think, if we all follow them, this competition will run flawless. This is why I always type "Read the First Page Regularly Because I Will Post Everything There, I Will Use It As A Bulletin Board"

Does any of you have a problem with any part of the rules??

- the reason that I divided the groups like that is so that we can all find our opponents online more easy.

i was speakin with a friend 2day and since english inst his first language, he wasnt sure about some of the rules so I offered him to translate the whole thing in french. My english isnt perfect (like no1 here already noticed lol) but I think I can make it clear enough so that evry1 of my french speakin comrades will understand (if ever more of em join). Ill post it here probably later 2nite or by tomorow afternoon.

Cheers guys

edal86 11-11-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philabong2 (Post 118959)
i was speakin with a friend 2day and since english inst his first language, he wasnt sure about some of the rules so I offered him to translate the whole thing in french. My english isnt perfect (like no1 here already noticed lol) but I think I can make it clear enough so that evry1 of my french speakin comrades will understand (if ever more of em join). Ill post it here probably later 2nite or by tomorow afternoon.

Cheers guys

I am extremely grateful for this.

by the way, inform me if your friend wants to join because I spots are now limited.

philabong2 11-11-2009 11:20 PM

he's already registred, but this may help to attract more or for another tourney later.

philabong2 11-11-2009 11:20 PM

Règles (toutes violation entraînera une défaite 0-3)
-soyez respectueux en tout temps
-vous ne pouvez choisir que des chasseurs. Les jets, bombardiers et I-153 sont interdits
-aucunes roquettes
-les bombes sont allouées seulement si vous croyez qu’elles améliorent les performances de votre avion (par contre, si vous larguez même une seule bombe, vous perdrez le match 0-3)
-vous ne pouvez tirer sur les cibles terrestres parce que cela modifierait le pointage
-visitez cette page fréquemment, elle sera rafraîchit régulièrement et servira de bulletin

Dispositions –settings- (veuillez rapporter toutes infractions à celles-ci, le match sera annulé le cas échéant)
-Simulation seulement
-Cartes : vous devez poster votre carte favorite avant vendredi le 13 novembre
-Température : vous pouvez choisir la température que vous voulez
-Temps : vous ne pouvez choisir la nuit
-Limite de temps : le premier stage de groupe sera joué en match de 20 minutes. Les stage éliminatoire et final seront de 30 minutes
-Strike : les match seront joué dans le mode strike. Ainsi un crash enlèvera un ticket à votre score. Aussi, cela permet au joueur ayant crashé de ressusciter au dessus de sa propre base.
-Essence et munitions limitées : alors ne tirez pas comme des dingues parce que la seule façon de faire le plein est de crasher, ce qui vous enlèvera un ticket
-Nombre de joueur : choisissez 2 joueur ainsi personne ne pourra se joindre à vous lors de la préparation au vol (recommandation seulement)

Première partie du tournoi : Stage de groupe (3 match par semaine)
- match de 20 minutes
-vous jouerez 2 fois contre chaque membre de votre groupe (local et invité). C’est pourquoi il est important de poster votre carte favorite.
-les 4 premiers de chaque groupe passeront automatiquement au stage éliminatoire (sujet à changement dépendamment du nombre de joueurs inscrit)
-le 5ieme de chaque groupe aura l’opportunité de se qualifier pour le stage éliminatoire
-les points cesseront d’être cumulés une fois ce stage terminé

Deuxième partie du tournoi : Stage éliminatoire (2 match par semaine)
-match de 30 minutes
-matches simples; vous perdez vous êtes éliminé
-16 joueurs passeront à ce stage. Il est important que vous tentiez de vous qualifier dans le top 3 afin que vous puissiez vous battre contre les 4e et 5e places des autres groupes (plus d’info à venir)
-dans ce stage, quiconque possède le moins de points sera l’hote et choisira donc l’emplacement et les settings

Matches et flexibilité d’horaires (important, à lire)
-le vainqueur du match est responsable de faire parvenir les résultats à edal86. Pour se faire, utiliser l’option camera dans le menu général du PS3 et prendre un cliché du sommaire de mission et faire parvenir à edal86 par PSN. Sans cliché le match ne comptera pas.
-soyez certains de savoir comment prendre des cliché avant samedi le 14. Pour de l’aide, poster ici.
-la communication est vitale; si vous ne répondez pas au challenge dans la semaine, vous déclarer automatiquement forfait (défaite 0-3). Par contre, si vous savez à l’avance que vous ne pourrez pas jouer votre match dans la semaine, svp contactez edal86 et/ou votre adversaire le plus tôt possible
-un nouvel horaire sera affiché à toutes les semaines à partir du 14 novembre
-l’horaire hebdomadaire vous indiquera vos 3 adversaires à affronter pour cette semaine. Pour les stages éliminatoire et final, vous aurez 3 jours pour contacter et affronter l’adversaire indiqué à l’horaire.

Pointage
-faire crasher l’adversaire est ce qui compte. Chaque fois que celui-ci s’écrase vous donnera un point
-dans le cas où vous épuisez vos munitions, vous ne serez pas pénalisé si vous décidez d’emboutir votre adversaire

les 1ere, 2e et 3e place remportent des prix
(…)

*dans le cas d’un match nul lors du stage éliminatoire et final, une session sera tenue par soit edal86 ou trk29 qui jouera le rôle d’arbitre observateur sans influencer la partie. Le premier nom que l’arbitre verra apparaître (joueur qui crash) perdra le match instantanément et sera éliminé.

edal86 11-11-2009 11:37 PM

This is beautiful, merci my friend, I will post this on the bulletin board

philabong2 11-12-2009 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 118990)
This is beautiful, merci my friend, I will post this on the bulletin board

Pleasure is all mine m8, all the credit goes to you building this thing up
Any thing I can do to help this game bring in more ppl, fell free to ask.

Honestly never had more fun playin a game, online or not, and this community is seriously a lost gem in the online world, all categories included... seriously... u guys r great.
Didnt run into one single "dumbass/jerk" playin sim online or on the forums.. evry1's very supportive n all... tells alot... seriously

Cheers guys

Edit: dam I promised I wouldnt cry

olife 11-12-2009 04:20 PM

merci beaucoup philabong pour cette traduction en francais
merci d'avoir passé du temps pour traduire et exuse moi de faire parti des gens pas tres doué en anglais ce qui t'as donné du travail
encore merci beaucoup

Dubbedinenglish 11-12-2009 04:56 PM

All right folks more meat for the grinder:

PSN: Dubbinenglish

Territory: US

Timezone: EST

Home map: Ardenne Forest

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 11-12-2009 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish (Post 119141)
All right folks more meat for the grinder:

PSN: Dubbinenglish

Territory: US

Timezone: EST

Home map: Ardenne Forest

:grin:

edal86 11-12-2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish (Post 119141)
All right folks more meat for the grinder:

PSN: Dubbinenglish

Territory: US

Timezone: EST

Home map: Ardenne Forest

Welcome aboard.

ok guys, groups are now even and complete.

- Im no longer accepting participants, only exception is if I, personally, invited you.

(I am now working on the schedule, I will post this schedule later today)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THE START OF THIS TOURNAMENT HAS BEEN MOVED UP 1 DAY (sorry for short notice, but the groups are now complete and there is no reason to hold the tournament until Saturday)

- ( you have all received a psn message from me about this, so there are no excuses for not knowing)

- NEWS TO ALL PARTICIPANTS - OFFICIAL START OF ACE OF ACES TOURNAMENT WILL BE ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 13 -

(you can begin your official matches as soon as I post the schedule (around 8 or 9pm pacific time)

good luck :)

- edal86

edal86 11-12-2009 11:57 PM

Special Guest: (this participant is a very good player, he comes from the XBOX 360)

PSN ID: MIRGERVIN

NATIONALITY: UK

TIME ZONE: GMT


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