just one example out of dozens: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35939

You are a liar. Thanks for proving it. Leave me alone, you and your troll friends.

PS: "Total and utter LIE. 90% of responds to your posts are disagreeing with you, and you still claim you didnt insult any!" <<< Argumentum ad populum. Just because more people say A is true then that A is false, it doesn't mean A is indeed true. Get your hands on a logic book. You seem to need it pretty hard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

You say that to all people who disagree with you? Grow up..

Wow you tell him to lvlup skills, and then quote skill descriptions from hero screen and claim that is help, and brilliant advice. This is priceless.
I asked specific question to you how to solve infinite mana/rage problem as you stated and no response, because you haven`t a slightest idea how this game mechanic works.

And again i`m liar. WHEN and WHERE ? You said so 20 days ago, before my last posts to you, so be true to your words and present proof of your claims.

fatt_shade u know what is most funny

he saying that bruic should grow up:P

remember when he said the ignore list is very nice

LMAO

that is SOME AMAZING LOGIC LOL

he would be the best jehova in the world;)

forcing his will upon others(well that not even ) but the idea anyways and calling everyone son

I have to agree here Razor.
After reading some of his wisdom infused posts, i imagine him as someone showing up and speaking `Do you have a moment to consider not playing no-loss? Every time you finish battle without losing a unit, somewhere a little puppy cry.`
But no matter how ridiculous it is, i should listen to Bhruic and stop spending time to read tiberius posts.

haha no worries;) don't let him stress ya prolly a kid;)


anyway check your msg box :D

I just found it amusing he said damage isn't always important (for a Viking/Warrior it is by far the most important stat).

He also said "Tactics" was a waste of a skill because of high initiative. For Viking/Warrior it is paramount for certain builds because not all units have high move speed and round 1 is critical. In fact, thanks to the Siege Crossbow, my elves only have speed of 1. (If my game wasn't bugged, I could have used 2 Yew Bows... )

Sounds like he mostly plays a Mage, which is fine. I played them too and I understand what is important for mages too. However, based on his responses, I'd say he seems to be more experienced in Mage builds than Warrior builds.

@tiberiu diablo 2 hardcore isn't really all that "hard". It is tedious and annoying. Not to mention you can spam full rejuvs in diablo 2. I suppose there is a bit more of a thrill though. Considering people have beaten Diablo 2 solo hardcore with a naked necromancer.... some supposedly did it with /8 player difficulty too while going solo.

They even took on the Uber Tristam with a naked team too. (now that sounds impressive if not for the coordination).

A challenge is a challenge is a challenge, and after spending some time on any of them, you can devolve almost every "video game" challenge to "simple". That's a bit of a stretch though and I think its best to just admire the work someone has done. If you want to poo poo someone's challenge/work because you don't think it is amazing, so be it. You do have the freedom of speech. I think we already know your position on this matter at this point though.

I do admire succeeding in hardcore diablo 2 for their tenacity to withstand what I'd rather not. (perhaps that's your position on no-loss in KB as well)

But I don't know if I'd go as far to say it is stupid. If you ever do a video game challenge and someone says your works are "stupid", don't be surprised. And if you think all video game challenges are inherently not interesting challenges, from that point of view, why would you bother comparing Diablo 2 challenges to this? Most normal people would insist all video game challenges are stupid. :)

@impy, wow great to see you are alive and well! I sort of like the 'easier' play of WotN if only because it makes it more flexible for different builds mid-way through the game. The plethora of items and such makes it a lot easier to switch up builds without having to restart.

I realize this does take away from the game a bit. I've always felt somewhat railroaded in Armored Princess and had to use scanners to ensure I'd get a very enjoyable build. I'm already at a good start on my 2nd playthrough (only level 8) so I'm hoping that means that most playthroughs have a generous helping of item.

Not sure if you finished it yet, but it is extremely difficult to do no-loss because of certain... "events" later on. I've already speculated it is possible but pretty hard. I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to succeed though! :)

Just one perspective, perhaps better to try to succeed with a threshold of losses and/or using very strange/weird builds. I've never seen a very successful Dwarf build before or < level 5 neutral build.

What bugs me is that some builds are just TOO efficient right now that it is very hard to deny using them. I felt similar issues with Armored Princess... and without the old Rune Mage for easy level 5 resurrection, I feel even more railroaded. We will see though! Game is still young!

I think you missed the part where That whole thread was about using a MAGE. You keep rambling about Warrior when it's completly off topic. But yes, tactics is for noobs always.

"Supposedly". Yea, right. Figures. /8 player too.. sure.

I never said people are stupid for doing no loss. I do no loss myself. Stop trolling please. I said the contrary, black on white, on my first post in that topic. What I said is that the fact that the game allows such a thing is stupid, and it is. No challange in this game when you kill every unit called "invincible" with no loss by cheap exploits like infinite mana/infinite rage +ressurection combos. From now on you will address me with respect.

Game is not young, game is pre-beta.

Actually, I think YOU missed the part that I was the OP of that thread and I was talking about Viking/Warrior. You know the part where I said I'm a level 25 Viking/Warrior and if level 5s were still viable. :)

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35778

First 2 guys in the post responded correctly that for Viking/Warriors, level 5s dont' make a lot of sense damage wise.

Someone else started talking about mages and you ran with it. I entertained the idea since no point in kaboshing generally useful information even if it was slightly off topic. What you did say was useful for mages of which I gave you credit for in my previous post. In other words, YOU WERE the one who was off topic.

Well, I like killing bosses in Armored Princess in < 10 rounds with no losses. If you like taking a bit longer, that's cool. Hard to do that without tactics, and if you don't know why, I guess you are too pro to know.

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/com...-uber-tristram

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcrNA...feature=relmfu

Video of solo naked necromancer hell mode. Not sure if it was hardcore as it is too much for me to watch to see if he died. I'm going to guess probably so.

I can't seem to find info on the Diablo 2 solo hardcore necromancer /8 players. Someone bragged about that on the diablo 3 forums and I think he had a reference point somewhere that I can't find right now. Diablo 2 isnt' really that hard, but the ubers are tricky os the iron man ubers is very tricky (iron man meaning you can't revisit old areas and such). Anyway, it has something to do with only stuff points into dexterity.

I'm sure those guys would think you are quite noob in saying hardcore is a "real challenge" as well. Amazing how relativity works.

I never said you said people who do no-loss is stupid. I said you said 'it', as in the work or concept or progress of doing so. Unless someone here plays too much King's Bounty and really does look like a big Troll who can regenerate at night... :)

Per your own title
"The so called "no-loss" concept (whole game) is wrong and stupid."

Not sure I follow your last line about
- You misread my posting claiming the OP was off topic on his own thread which talked about Viking/Warrior. :)
- Demonstrated you aren't aware of a different strategy (Viking/Warrior build)
- Misquoted/misread that I said you felt the "no loss challenge" was stupid (we never said people were stupid).
- didn't seem to realize people have beaten diablo 2 hardcore naked in some shape or form

I'd hope you can change my view of you in the future, because besides our general agreement that no-loss can be an unnecessarily painful artificial challenge (I'm a pragmatist), you haven't really earned any more of my respect with your current response despite me trying to be as civil and hopefully factual as possible about it.

This is just your opinion, which I don't really value that much. :)
Diablo hardcore is much more of a challange then KB will ever be with the retardedly overpowered stone skin and target spells in the game. (and others)


I was talking about this thread http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35939

So no, I didn't misread, you are just too confused to understand what we're talking about.


I defended from accusations that I said people who do no loss are stupid. many people accuse me of insults because they aren't fully capable to understand what they read when they read my posts.

try harder then. As you can see I didn't do any of the things listed there. And also I never said I believe it's impossible to do Diablo Hardocore Naked. But until I see it with my own eyes, what I know it that there is a crapload of players outthere who use mods/cheats to do these sorts of things. I play wc3 battle online and like 33% of players use maphacks. But maybe we should stick to discussing KB here.