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Zoom2136 07-17-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomik (Post 45693)
Back to the topic...

I'm new owner of this card and here is my setup:
CPU - Intel E6300@2.8
MB - Asus P5Q-E
RAM - 2x2GB Geil800CL5 BlackDragon
PSU - Corsair750W
VGA - MSI ATI HD4850
OS - Win Vista 64 bit
Drivers - ATI Catalyst 8.6 Hotfixed
PF settings - Perfect, Water2, Landgeometry3, Efects2, 1280x1024
4xAA, 4xAF
Kamikaze02 track FPS Avg45, Max167, Min10

It seems, that this flight sim is quite CPU dependent..
When I was on stock CPU freq. (1.8GHz), FPS results in Kamikaze02 track were:
Avg31, Max118, Min6

When I fly online (on UK3 Dedicated server) FPS are at average about 60-90.

Yes iL2 is VERY CPU intensive... a bump up of 0.2 in CPU speed will give you about 10% more FPS... so better to OC your CPU (or upgrade your CPU) then the graphic card... Finally we dont run this sim at very high resolution anyway... and high res are where these card shine....

dflc03 07-18-2008 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomik (Post 45693)
Back to the topic...

I'm new owner of this card and here is my setup:
CPU - Intel E6300@2.8
MB - Asus P5Q-E
RAM - 2x2GB Geil800CL5 BlackDragon
PSU - Corsair750W
VGA - MSI ATI HD4850
OS - Win Vista 64 bit
Drivers - ATI Catalyst 8.6 Hotfixed
PF settings - Perfect, Water2, Landgeometry3, Efects2, 1280x1024
4xAA, 4xAF
Kamikaze02 track FPS Avg45, Max167, Min10

It seems, that this flight sim is quite CPU dependent..
When I was on stock CPU freq. (1.8GHz), FPS results in Kamikaze02 track were:
Avg31, Max118, Min6

When I fly online (on UK3 Dedicated server) FPS are at average about 60-90.

You are OK for your hardware. With about the same system (the difference being my E6600 @ 3.2 Ghz) and same settings my minimum fps in the track you mentioned was 16.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 07-18-2008 07:17 AM

How well will IL2 run on my system?? Is the 8800 gt enough for IL2??

Zoom2136 07-18-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN (Post 45751)
How well will IL2 run on my system?? Is the 8800 gt enough for IL2??

Its more than enough

GF_Mastiff 07-18-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN (Post 45751)
How well will IL2 run on my system?? Is the 8800 gt enough for IL2??

you should have no problem at all

JG27CaptStubing 07-18-2008 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN (Post 45751)
How well will IL2 run on my system?? Is the 8800 gt enough for IL2??

It depends on what resolution you want to run the game... If 1600 and below its plenty card. You might have to take down some of the AA and keep some AF but its a good card.

apparition 07-18-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Feuerfalke (Post 44634)
I know we will be in flames, soon, but I totally agree with you, crazyivan1970.

When I switched from my old trusty 9800pro to the nVidia 6800GT I was honestly shocked how poor the rendering was. They have improved in terms of image-quality 2D and 3D over the last models, but it's still far behind AMD/ATI. To bad image quality isn't judged in any of the official benchmarks, because simple FPS is not everything... :rolleyes:

I have to say i went to nVidia also and ive been less than impressed.my old 9800pro had a better image than then 7950gt i switched too.ill be going back to ati next build.my 9800pro is still doing great in my sons old dell now and it runs everything he,s playing just fine.probly one of the best cards ever made.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 07-18-2008 08:21 PM

How can this happen ??? The nvdia 7900 cards are faster than Radeon 9800 pro so how can the weaker 9800 pro have better graphics than the more powerful 7950gt?? Anyway i am pretty sure that my 8800gt has better image quality than a 9800 pro!!:):) Can you post some screenhots of games running with a ati card and some others screenhots of games running with nvdia card so we can make a comparission??

Feuerfalke 07-18-2008 08:33 PM

Frames Per Second does not equal image quality, Baxter.

Of course new cards can usually show more effects, as they are more powerful. For IL2 those cards are overkill, though. Remember, this game is 9 years old and even with the upgraded graphics, it touches the limits of your CPU much faster than those of your GPU.

The image quality shows in different aspects, though. For example: With the 8800 I have flickering textures in IL2, flickering smoke, with perfect mode and effects=2 the flak-clouds turn pink and the groundtexture moves around slightly, even when standing still on some map and mission combinations.

For LockOn, you see shimering beaches, even through the fog and the self-shadowing is crippled.


These things have nothing to do with visual effects of the game, that older graphics cards cannot show. It has rather something to do with image-quality-factors, that were accepted to push up the overall performance and frames per second.
From the marketing point of view, the masses of top-notch-brand-new-graphics-card-uses are not the few people who play IL2 or LockOn. Not even BF2 any longer, so there is no need for nVidia to fix these issues either.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 07-18-2008 08:48 PM

Yes there are a lot more important games than L2 For example i realy need a card like this to run Crysis ith max settings. And Crysis realy needs a card like 9800gx2 to run at max settings, dosent it? With my 8800gt i dont get more than 35 fps maximum in 1280x1024 very high settings. I never played IL2 and i dont know if i will because fps and action games in general are my main interest.


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