He's saying that it's infantile to take pleasure in purposefully blasting fumes and toxic dirt into a strangers car because you don't like a couple of minutes of their music. I guess this is what you call 'freedom' in the USA, I would just close the window.

That's not what I read. The word play tools sounds like he's referring to those whos hobbies consist of toys that burn fossil fuels.

And if you'd read what I wrote I said bass. No amount of closing your windows is going to block out the resonance or vibration caused by some system with some high numbers in SPL.

It has nothing to do with freedom. But if some jackass is making my windows rattle while I'm sitting next to him, he's gonna get a bit right back from me.

The usual death argument. Live like a stone age man or do not be taken seriously. Highly comfortable position, eh?

I still have to work and feed a family. The difference is that I am open to more efficient and sustainable ways of doing that, you are not. Try again.

More efficient and sustainable ways? My 9000lb truck gets 20mpg. That's around 7 more than stock. You act as if you know me and how green I am. If you think my vehicle passion is somehow making me a fossil fuel using shill.

I'll put up my power bill any day of the week and I guarantee you I use far less energy than you do. Not only are you a hypocrite you stereotype people because you dont have the 1st clue what you are talking about. Perhaps read the part where I said I ran my old truck without going to the pump for 3 years straight. Every ounce of fuel being from oil I recycled.

One thing you're not going to do is think you possibly know me or my lifestyle. Make your baseless accusations and inuindos on someone that feeds into the crap spewing out of your mouth.

Hypocrite of the tallest order.

Funny how you insist of me not knowing you, but in the same post guaranteeing you are using less energy then me. You really should be more careful whom you call a hypocrite while smashing the windows of your glass house.

And yes, if a guy comes storming into a debate over efficient fuel and the eventuality of running out of fuel reserves posting oversized "in your face!" pictures of trucks and engines, then the stereotyping comes mighty easily. But of course you knew that.

Recycled oil does not make Diesel engines more efficient. You still waste the energy.

You somehow amaze me each time you post. I know I use less emery because 50% of the time I sleep where the soldiers do, in a field, in a tent. My power bill is never over $50 a month.

And once again you show your lack of knowledge regarding oil, but I'll give you a hint. There's more energy wasted in refining diesel fuel than bulk oil. Even better there's absolutely no energy spent refining in using oil that's already been used.

So cliff notes so you might get it: Less energy is used over all when using bulk oil compared to a refined fuel. Even better, no refining energy is used when your fuel has already been used.

I can't wait for your next uninformed post showing you don't have the 1st clue about anything. Perhaps do some research before you put your foot in your mouth once again.

Being a musician in a rock band Bliss I know a reasonable amount about sound, certainly more than your average Joe does and if you had enough windows you would block it out, even base, but I'd doubt it's worth the effort. The point I was making was that you live in a society and you make a contribution to that and what goes around comes around. If everybody was nicer to each other then perhaps you wouldn't be blasted by bass and feel the need to have a pop back.

20mpg is absolute crap. My diesel gets averages 50mpg, which is still not enough for my liking. Try a smaller engine, you can get just as many speeding tickets with it.

Don't waste you time Bliss...are you a fellow member?:cool:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php

I understand the music thing as well. I dabble a bit with my guitars. ;)

I use the truck to pull/haul anything from my race car to farm equipment. 10-30k pounds. You're not gonna do that with a car. But 20mpg for the size and weight is really good. I understand karma. Trust me, I'm never the instigator.

I probably am. I think that's where I found out the wiring to install the 2011 f150 mirrors on the 04-08's. I have an 06 fx4 as well (f150) and can finally see like in 250. No blind spots! If you have an f150 it's the best thing you could ever do. 154 a piece from taska (heated,power, turn indicator, puddle light, extending and folding.

I mainly frequent the coral as I'm a huge mustang nut. Gotta a twin turbo sn95 with 2600RWHP that's almost done, amongst a few other street cars. I just enjoy building them, working with my hands etc.

Edit: here's the link. Best investment ever http://www.f150online.com/forums/200...s-finally.html

I pay 90€ every three months. That comes down to 30 each. Try again

A diesel engine still wastes two thirds of the energy potential. That you reuse oil does not change that fact. Combustion engines are extremely inefficient, not matter what recycling construction you put around that.

Less energy is used. But we are not talking refining, we are talking engine efficiency. Your topic is a completly different ball game.

Hit a soft spot, hm? Coming into this thread, flags waving, trumpets roaring and then complaining about according treatment? Hint, if you want to punch, better be prepared to suck up some pain in return.