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David Hayward 01-14-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zauii (Post 379638)
Seriously watch the trailers again.

I watched it repeatedly. You're only seeing what you want to see.

zauii 01-14-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 379646)
When you start a war that kills millions of people you're probably not going to be portrayed as the good guys in the movies that follow the war,

Thats not the point jeeze , you seriously don't get it?

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 379649)
I watched it repeatedly. You're only seeing what you want to see.

I think its the other way around bud.

David Hayward 01-14-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zauii (Post 379652)
Thats not the point jeeze , you seriously don't get it?

Yes, that is the point. Losing wars has consequences. One of those consequences is that the winners make movies that do not reflect well on the losers. And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

David Hayward 01-14-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zauii (Post 379652)
I think its the other way around bud.

How about if you post all the quotes from the trailer about how great America is?

FFCW_Urizen 01-14-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 379655)
And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

Whole Germany wanted War with everyone else, hell, even little unborn Irma living next door wanted War and the reigning Sociopath just followed that call :rolleyes:

Bewolf 01-14-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 379655)
Yes, that is the point. Losing wars has consequences. One of those consequences is that the winners make movies that do not reflect well on the losers. And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

hmmmmmm....

http://mmimageslarge.moviemail-onlin...k/Das-Boot.jpg

zauii 01-14-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 379655)
Yes, that is the point. Losing wars has consequences. One of those consequences is that the winners make movies that do not reflect well on the losers. And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

And thats exactly were you're going deeply wrong, plenty of people would play games as the Germans in a compelling story or watch movies like BoB from their perspective where they're not portrayed as animals.
Would we be nazis because of this no? Some people enjoy watching Saw movies, are they murderers no? Portray them as good fighters or focus on something else instead of the political business.
(Or dont involve it at all, just focus a movie on a battle instead of insulting one or the other side from ONE angle).

The music industry got past this hurdle a long time ago and you've bands like Sabaton who develop songs about everything from the American Paratroopers to the Polish resistance and the German Ghost Division Tribute.
It's been what ~67 years, and thats exactly my whole point. Fed up with yet another American patriotic/biased movie. The discussion is useless because you refuse to see were i am going with this.

I shouldn't have to repeat this but you don't get it, its not about the politics. As I've said before I totally disagree with everything they did so I'm not trying to pick sides here.
It's about making interesting movies that can display both sides in a fair manner instead of using one angle.

And so back to the movie, i'll watch it for the CGI but i bet its gonna leave a bad taste.

Bewolf 01-14-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by zauii (Post 379673)
And thats exactly were you're going deeply wrong, plenty of people would play games as the Germans in a compelling story or watch movies like BoB from their perspective where they're not portrayed as animals.(Would we be naziz because of this no?, Some people enjoy watching Saw movies, are they murderers no?) Portray them as good fighters or focus on something else instead of the political business(Or dont involve it at all, just focus a movie on a battle instead of insulting one or the other side from ONE angle).

The music industry got past this hurdle a long time ago and you've bands like Sabaton who develop songs about everything from the American Paratroopers to the Polish resistance and the German Ghost Division Tribute.
It's been what ~67 years, and thats exactly my whole point. Fed up with yet another American patriotic/biased movie. The discussion is useless because you refuse to see were i am going with this.

I shouldn't have to repeat this but you don't get it, its not about the politics. As I've said before I totally disagree with everything they did so I'm not trying to pick sides here. It's about making interesting movies that can display both sides in a fair manner instead of using one angle.

And so back to the movie, i'll watch it for the CGI but i bet its gonna leave a bad taste both in terms of how the Germans are portrayed vs the Americans and also aerodynamics & realism. Hopefully we'll see more interesting war movies in the future with todays modern technology, such a shame otherwise.

Just think Indiana Jones when seeing these kind of movies, and everything is well =)

zauii 01-14-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 379674)
Just think Indiana Jones when seeing these kind of movies, and everything is well =)

lol :)

David Hayward 01-14-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by zauii (Post 379673)
And thats exactly were you're going deeply wrong, plenty of people would play games as the Germans in a compelling story or watch movies like BoB from their perspective where they're not portrayed as animals.

You should make a movie which shows the WW2 Germans as good guys and prove everyone who makes movies wrong.


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