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JG53Frankyboy 02-09-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Kraken (Post 222108)

having the first years of IL2 UBI com online play in mind (i personally was never there :D ), i guess we will still use the Hyperlobby for some more years :)

JG52Uther 02-09-2011 08:40 PM

Hyperlobby is so easy to use I hope it is still an option.

ElAurens 02-09-2011 09:10 PM

+1

Hyperlobby essentially saved the online aspect of IL2.

I remember flying with the old UBI interface. Or rather not flying much with it...

It was horrible.

KG26_Alpha 02-10-2011 07:25 PM

Well Hyperlobby has been "free" to use for over 10 years, so don't forget to use the donate button in the middle of the HL screen :)

It will be interesting to see some online gui screen-shots, it would give a clue to the hosting format a little more.



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dcal 02-11-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DD_crash (Post 221838)
I think I read that Oleg said it was taking too long but we will get dynamic campaigns later on. So why panic?

Agreed - this game will be much more mod friendly than IL2 so I am sure we will see this and many other things from the community. I am glad they are getting the game out now instead of spending more time to do dynamic campaign(although I want it).

I play Arma 2 military sim, which is very mod friendly, and you should see all the really cool addons, missions, dynamic campaigns that have been made for that game. It is like 100 games in one. My hope is COD will be supported by the community in the same way.:grin:

Doogerie 02-11-2011 11:44 AM

nice interview I don't mind there being a story and I have to say it's a lovely story.

Osprey 02-11-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue 5 (Post 221821)
So in the name of not being sufficiently 'positive', you deleted the entirely of several of my posts? How pleasant to know that anyone not being 'positive' is no longer allowed to comment, what a nicely nuanced appreciation of people's concerns. What I said was:

It was not immature; it was a discussion based on the opportunity cost of the development of a particular product by a small team. Please see all the other posts full of 'ZOMG' and 'LOL' prior to opining that my reasoned argument about relative value was immature. For goodness, sake I said I'LL BUY IT, I am also entitled to question why a love interests is considered an import part of a fight sim, or am I the only one here that thinks this a tad odd?

That is a relevant and reasonable position.

I completely agree. It is up to the team what they put in it but I'm definitely not interested in a sideshow like that either. It's a small team, I would much rather have seen effort put into something else instead.
The good news for me in the interview is that Ilya commented that you can jump into other aircraft on the fly in MP modes - why is this significant? Well, it means that there is a Moving Dogfight Server ability!! :D

Osprey 02-11-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven
...Just 1 thing I do not really understand as a non-native English speaker, what is a 'renegade' pilot where they talk about in the interview?
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Originally Posted by Les (Post 221938)
A traitor. Someone on your own side who is fighting for the enemy.

It seems, as part of the Allied campaign, you will have to deal with a fellow pilot who is somehow found to be betraying your side.

It doesn't mean that at all!! Somebody called a renegade is not a traitor, it is just somebody who you have no control over and operates on their own agenda. A renegade is usually somebody who just disobeys orders - they were useful in a way, there were lots of RAF pilots who wanted to get at the Germans so much that they would break formation and fly off on the hunt on their own despite being told not to.

zakkandrachoff 02-11-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OLEG (Post 222604)
PCG: Where next for the Cliffs of Dover engine? The Med? The Eastern Front? Korea?

OLEG: I can’t tell you the exact area or name of the title yet (market factors will have a say) but I personally prefer the Med.
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and the presentation of Battle For Moscow? i was waiting for fly Bf109F

Med? Mediterraneo?what time and what place? MALTA 1941-1942? Tunez? Sicily? i wanna know!
I believe is more best East, Med have similar aircraft that Cliffs Of Dover.
For some geography and aircraft Different, Finnish Conflict 1941 will be great. Or East conflict. Or Flying Tigers maybe. or Sino Japanesse conflicts prewar.
but Med is okay, anything of il2 is OK for me;):rolleyes::-)

Les 02-12-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 222696)
It doesn't mean that at all!! Somebody called a renegade is not a traitor, it is just somebody who you have no control over and operates on their own agenda. A renegade is usually somebody who just disobeys orders - they were useful in a way, there were lots of RAF pilots who wanted to get at the Germans so much that they would break formation and fly off on the hunt on their own despite being told not to.

My definition of a traitor is a person guilty of treason or treachery, someone who is disloyal, unreliable or dangerous. Someone who disobeys orders and betrays their sovereign or country.

And in my opinion, an Allied pilot going renegade during the Battle of Britain, in the way it's been described in the interview, that is, to the point where they can be considered an enemy comparable to the Germans, could be considered such a traitor.

However, amongst all the speculation here, I said what you and others also said, that it could just be some interpersonal rivalry or personality clash or something getting out of hand.

Quoted from my second post - "Just thought I'd add, one dictionary definition of 'renegade' is - 'person who deserts a cause.' Lots of possible storylines in that sentence alone. It doesn't necessarily mean joining the opposition..."

There are lots of ways to desert a cause, including putting your personal or interpersonal issues before everything else.

I doubt they will make your squadmate 'enemy' an outright turncoat or German sympathizer. But I don't think they're just talking about characters arguing over how to engage the enemy either.

Quoted from the interview - "...In the game however you will experience exactly what the veteran experienced: unexpected hostility from your own squadmate, growing conflict between you, and finally having to make a choice in the air between two enemies, one of them painted in your own colours..."

That 'choice' sounds like which one you engage in combat. That means, in the context of a war, if you're fighting a squadmate, then you're fighting a traitor, or you are one.

I hope this all makes sense, whether you agree with it or not.

Anyway, it's all just speculation and hypothetical nonsense to me, until we get more information. Then it becomes a more straightforward form of entertainment. :grin: In any case, it's not something to take too seriously. Sorry if I caused any confusion or led anyone astray while thinking out loud here.


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