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CWMV 12-27-2012 04:33 AM
You guys are that hung up on clickable cockpits eh?

Your bias is making you see things that arent there. Lofts statement is that they have a plan, they are sticking to it, and they do not have time for various and sundry useless crap like clickable pits.

So here's what you have to complain about:

Its staying with DX9. DX9 is stable. DX9 works and is in very wide use. Best market share. Makes sense. No need for you guys to sell your friends down the river like you were ready to when the devs here couldn't make the game work with the specs on the box.

Unknown hybrid pay system. Thats as much as anyone knows, yet everyone here is convinced it'll be pay per gauge. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiight.

"13) Can we expect the clickable cockpits?
No. We create a simulation of air combat (this includes attacking ground targets). The pilot will only receive critical systems, propeller pitch, boost, altitude control, different mechanization, weapons and more. Procedural training device it will not be, it will be a game simulator. We would like to return to the original idea of ​​the "IL-2 Sturmovik", because we believe that it was great."

But they will be to a great extent animated. So what is wrong with this? its exactly what IL2 was and IL2 has been the sim gold standard for 10 years. CoD broke from that form and FAILED.

Controllable vehicles. WHO FREAKIN CARES! FLIGHT SIM!!! Lulz.

So thats the cliffs notes of the big whining issues of the dev diaries. Seems kinda petty no?

Back to shaking you magic 8 balls now.

EDIT: And the SE5A does have trim now, go play the latest release. Just another example of them actually fixing their sim, something that CoD never really got.

ATAG_Bliss 12-27-2012 04:46 AM
Sounds like a child got their toys taken away.

SlipBall 12-27-2012 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 490277)
You guys are that hung up on clickable cockpits eh?

Your bias is making you see things that arent there. Lofts statement is that they have a plan, they are sticking to it, and they do not have time for various and sundry useless crap like clickable pits.

So here's what you have to complain about:

Its staying with DX9. DX9 is stable. DX9 works and is in very wide use. Best market share. Makes sense. No need for you guys to sell your friends down the river like you were ready to when the devs here couldn't make the game work with the specs on the box.

Unknown hybrid pay system. Thats as much as anyone knows, yet everyone here is convinced it'll be pay per gauge. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiight.

"13) Can we expect the clickable cockpits?
No. We create a simulation of air combat (this includes attacking ground targets). The pilot will only receive critical systems, propeller pitch, boost, altitude control, different mechanization, weapons and more. Procedural training device it will not be, it will be a game simulator. We would like to return to the original idea of ​​the "IL-2 Sturmovik", because we believe that it was great."

But they will be to a great extent animated. So what is wrong with this? its exactly what IL2 was and IL2 has been the sim gold standard for 10 years. CoD broke from that form and FAILED.

Controllable vehicles. WHO FREAKIN CARES! FLIGHT SIM!!! Lulz.

So thats the cliffs notes of the big whining issues of the dev diaries. Seems kinda petty no?

Back to shaking you magic 8 balls now.

EDIT: And the SE5A does have trim now, go play the latest release. Just another example of them actually fixing their sim, something that CoD never really got.
Why do you come here with that, go to the new forum and vent

tintifaxl 12-27-2012 08:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 490277)
You guys are that hung up on clickable cockpits eh?

Your bias is making you see things that arent there. Lofts statement is that they have a plan, they are sticking to it, and they do not have time for various and sundry useless crap like clickable pits.
Sorry, not in my book. Flying bombers or multi engined planes makes clickable pits very! important. Of course, if you stay with the I-16, then ok.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 490277)
... its exactly what IL2 was and IL2 has been the sim gold standard for 10 years.
10 year old standard? Not what I want in 2014. There has to be improvement in BoS on every sim-relevant aspect over IL2. Maybe take DCS:P-51 as reference?

Most important features to me:

* flight model
* level of accuracy for operating the planes including engine management and radios
* dynamic weather
* believeable AI (includes ground control)
* dynamic and scripted coop/offline/online campaigns with career

We will see what 777 can deliver.

The only gripes I have with CloD (since the patch 07/2011) are:

* AI and radio comms (ruins offline play for me)
* disappearing contacts (ruins online play for me)

Very sadly Luthier concentrated their efforts in a graphic engine rewrite instead of fixing those.

raaaid 12-27-2012 08:26 AM
certainly myself i didnt talk much about the game

rather playing that complaining and use the forum to chatty chat as i would in a pub

but my point is this is a failure for us and lucky us for 777 or wwii air sim would have disappear maybe forever

what happened is bad for us all as simmers and many people are masochistically happy and were praying for this end

imagine this type of guy whith a psicology of i harm myself to harm others to feel good get access to the buttom

GOA_Potenz 12-27-2012 03:24 PM
what all you can't see that Oleg and Luthier did a totally wrong manage on the project, was their failure not us, it's all their fault, for promisng things that couldn't be achieve and then lies and silence, that's not the way to manage a project and reply to paying costumers, and the saddest is people here keep refering them as some kind of untochable allmighty and wise gods. They fail at their task horrendously and CloD is over now, end of story.
Now just keep going foward and support 777 ontheir new project, oleg and luthier are gone and they are not comming back tomorrow with a version of CloD with all the things their promised and lied about all this years of development.

swiss 12-27-2012 05:01 PM
Maybe their fatal fault was they actually DID listen to us.
Way too much time wasted for rivet counting and other peripheral stuff, while losing focus for the important stuff, i.e. supplying a working title that sells, even if the rivet counters are not happy with the historical accuracy(at release date - if it sells, you got money for later improvements).

Frequent_Flyer 12-27-2012 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JG27_brook (Post 490089)
refusing to do a 1944 plane set with p51 p47 and fw190 is just dumb, this plane set would have sold alot more copies and we all know this to be a fact!!!
You could not be more correct. The Battle of Britian has been done to death. To annoucne the next instatllment , essentially( BOM) BOB -East was equally as poor business decesion. The battle for Stalingrad does nothing for me either. Aparently I'm am in the majority. If there is any truth to Korea this would be infinately more interesting than any eatern front scenario.

MB_Avro_UK 12-27-2012 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer (Post 490353)
You could not be more correct. The Battle of Britian has been done to death. To annoucne the next instatllment , essentially( BOM) BOB -East was equally as poor business decesion. The battle for Stalingrad does nothing for me either. Aparently I'm am in the majority. If there is any truth to Korea this would be infinately more interesting than any eatern front scenario.
The three most important turning points of WW2 were as follows:

Battle of Britain

Stalingrad

Midway

And as agreed by most historians. You are not in the majority.

Frequent_Flyer 12-28-2012 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK (Post 490357)
The three most important turning points of WW2 were as follows:

Battle of Britain

Stalingrad

Midway

And as agreed by most historians. You are not in the majority.
Debatable, and a matter of perspective. However, the the absolute turning point of WW II was when the Japanses bomber Pearil Harbor, it was more significant then all three combined. Coupled with the ignorance of Germany declaring war on the US .

The Battle of Midway is the only one of your three that will make interesting and diverse flight sim.


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