Yes i took alot of assumptions but that because i was here from the start(TL) with inventing stuff out

I saw KB growing up till wotn

and my tone wasn't being offensive to u
but you were the one that said it's annoying not me:)(e.a your previous post)

personally i don't care wether you play no loss or not but if u need help i will be there that's all

and as for KB being easy
Thank the people that helped growning KB and those who don't know who(i mean from start)

check out
impy/loreanangelicus/fatt_shade/dgdobrev/unicornxp/Zechnophone and possibly some others i forget

and this part is mainly for you tiberius
you say thigs are easy but i'm quite sure u read all out tips of getting no losses and how to do things as fast as possible
The people i mentioned above made things alot easier because they did some crazy stuff or knew the fastest route to take

and if u say KB:AP was easy

try some of impy's challenges
and i don't see you doing that
Beat KB:AP with 14 fights show me that and I will believe everything is easy for you

Don't kid yourself you didn't invent anything. Because there is nothing that can be invented in a KB game. You can only use what the game has to offer to you. You can discover useful thing, but never invent. Electricity wasn't invented it was discovered. Electricity exists in nature without anybody inventing it just like casting Plague on Black Dragons isn't inventing strategy for casting spells on a unit that should be in fact immune to spells. I was the first to point out on the forums (with old account not this) to cast Plague on Black Dragons, that makes me big inventor? When you kill 1000 bears with 1 royal snake you didn't invent nothing. You just exploited poorly designed game mechanichs thats all.

Lol, my son. Arguments such as "i'm quite sure" do not interest me. They are simple fallacies that don't have any place in a debate. I don't care about what you are sure or not. You think yourself what you want and live in your fantasy world where you're the only one who knows how to rape KB games to death. No, in fact I was very little active on the forums until recently because I don't need walkthroughs to play easy games.

They did nothing special if you ask me. I raped the game without help from anybody. I am just mature enough not to brag all the time on the internet like you do. Stop your fallacies please. :)

This is preposterous. Crappy exploits do not interest me. Impy's challanges were not fun at all to do and made absolutely no sense. I only go for challanges that are not based on silly exploits/cheats/mods and that do not involve reloading 1698 times until you finally kite that Map for Verona.

No, my son. I'll give you a challange. Actually play hardcore Diablo 2 style any challange that you think is hard. This means without reload. Reloading is embarassingly noobish I won't go into details. All your "fantastic" accomplishments were done with Savescumming and by using exploits or cheats (like savescanner). So you havent actually played the game as it's intended.

I named two extreme positions (both seen on the forum) that I personally find annoying and not reasonable. You assumed lots of things about me.

There is no need to thank anyone except possibly the devs for KB being easy. I'm not using some grand, brilliant strategy that I learned from someone on the forum.

sure then how come the devs didn't know some things that could be played
too lazy to find the quote now
but they said "people seem the find things and do things that EVEN WE didn't think of"

so all your points are invalid

and as for d2 i play tl 2 hardcore mode so die once u die end of game

i play any game on hardest mode and finish it so and i read forums to see how people did it and sometimes learn from their experience

2bad we can't turn back time now
but let's see if the people didn't post those things on KB let's see how far most people would have gotten;)

and as for impy doing 14 fights
he didn't use any cheats or whatsoever (except maybe the kbscanner for that game don't know about that)

game is 14 fights with droids only and kiting so if you think that is cheating sure :) he played very legit

WOW, is this the latest challenge - to upset maximum number of people on the forums Tiberiu?
We had a few trolls here in the past, mostly advertising types, but you are by far the most controversial.
I am sorry for the wall of text, but hopefully I 'll manage to talk some sense into him.

1) In "stupid no-loss concept" thread which you started yourself you tell us in your very first post - I'm a smart gamer. A few posts later we find out - you're heroes 3,4,5 PRO, chessmaster, and later on openly ...wait for it... I'm smart and pro at games. Over the years I do not recall anyone acting this way, certainly not good old "dinosaurs" of the forums, why it has to be you - some unknown newcomer? Well, they say wise men are humble, and it appears Tiberiu you have still a long way to go. To top it up, quite amusingly, In thread "Modding higher difficulty" you ask - how to open KFS file? Well, mr. smart telling everyone to get the strategy, there is search function on 1C forums and Google has it to..
2) What is this obsession with calling everyone son? More than once you were asked directly how old you are - no response. Not only it's difficult to prove your age on internet forum, you also do not know the age of other posters, only assuming they're considerably younger than you. Also, this is an international forum with many posters having their first language other than english. They are most probably aware of most common use of expression - son. If you want to enjoy a fruitful discussion with them, then fine language nuances are better left out, don't you think? It's all common sense, but you go on stubbornigly defending your position, your rights etc. and create tension.
3) You openly say in "stupid no-loss concept" thread that the whole concept is wrong, stupid and retarded, there is no denying it, sorry. What is the point of such controversial statement from self proclaimed very mature and very smart gentleman?? You say you cannot offend a concept, but you've annoyed people who attempted to incorporate this concept into their gameplay for their pleasure. Maybe we help ourselves with two examples here in order to get through to you. One - You approach a group of guys enthusiastically working on their cars over the weekend attempting to make them go faster. Now you tell them the whole concept of making cars faster is stupid, because there are speed limits on the road anyway...Still nothing? Number two - Tiberiu walks into the club on friday midnight and starts preaching to everyone - The whole concept of drinking and smoking is stupid, wrong and retarded!!!, there are no benefits for your body and you will die younger!!! Now if you're lucky, no one will talk to you for the rest of the evening, but maybe someone will slap you:-). Understand that people generally feel attached to their countries, families, hobbies etc.and even no-loss runs which may have provided them with lots of fun and it was their decision. Now no one is going to call the police here, but it is annoying and unnecessary approach from you.
4) generally speaking, why do you start all these controversies anyway? If you want to gain respect and recognision of the community, you do it by being helpful, share the ideas, jokes, strategies... There are quite a few players who posses considerable knowledge of the KB series, but no one laughs at newbies questions, or tell them as you - get more strategy...Well, as you say, we have to respect your Freedom of speech? More like endure it..
5) there seem to be a confusion about invincible fights & impossible difficulty. First, games these days cannot yet properly evaluate strength of your army. They would have to consider your units, spells + levels, rage , your items, known strategies, enemy army composition, your game style, your expertise etc etc. And it would have to be constantly updated by developers since they cannot possibly discover all strategies, combos, exploits during beta testing. I think in KB most probably just comparison of leadership of the opponents decides how the enemy & outcome of encouter is evaluated. Simply put seeing enemy marked invincible just means his leadership is XXX bigger than yours. That does not automatically mean it cannot be beaten, or even beaten no-loss, it just means it will be very,very difficult. Since XXX thresholds are not dynamically evaluated per individual player, it has to reflect strength of the enemy stack for average gamer (it is only logical - you cannot pick newbies or veteran perception of difficulty to be shown to all game players). Now armed with knowledge - quoting you:
Basically, if one is able to finish a game about huge fights and combats, many labeled as "invincible" and he is able to win without losing anything, this means that the game is unbalanced and poorly designed - we know you are incorrect. Due to limitation of today's software strength of enemy stack represent its strength percepted by average gamer. If you can win in better way, good for you, you are either better than average player or using exploits etc.
Also, the reason why seemingly bombastic expressions are used to describe difficulty - impossible etc.. is merely a marketing move. Developers could have called difficult fights - hopeless, unlikely etc, but that somehow does not cut it, does it? Now when you win fight marked as impossible , that releases some endorphines doesn't it?
6) I guess as I am typing all this I may write my own perception of no-loss concept. Without using any exploits, cheats etc. I think it represents cherry on cake for very advanced players. You could also call it - one of the voluntary expert end-game modes. I emphasize that not using exploits etc. otherwise anyone without serious knowledge of the game can do it. I would like to know whether it was originally idea of developers or players. Now let's agree that every game in order to be successful has to provide for all players - newcomers, casuals, regulars, veterans. Providing fun and challenge for first three groups is relatively easy - if not much else, there is always higher difficulty for them to look forward to. But what about veterans? Things are more complicated since KB is single player only, so no Diablo 2 style ladders, HMM3 battles.. How do you achieve longevity of your product? Also, KB series look pretty much the same for years now, so group of the veterans is very large to start with, and surely some attempted no-loss on their very first WOTN playthrough. From this point of view, discovery of no-loss concept is probably players-invented-free-gift-for-developers which they should only embrace. Why embrace?One would have thought that developers realize few things:
a) no-loss concept is something to look forward to once you complete impossible diffulty, as if it was another difficulty level. Non-compulsory as with all other diff. levels. It is straitforward concept in comparison to various other self-imposed challenges.
b) it requires minimum effort from developers (just to make sure it is possible, but very difficult) and increases overall playtime- dream come through
c) developers have to provide for veterans, because veterans are looked upon by players looking for motivation and game possibilites and tactics
d) later on,taking away no-loss option is a sensitive issue. Give a guy who was driving corvette for years some small city car...
e) increased playtime per player increases overall player satisfaction with product and increases probability of buying related products in future
Sadly, I have to express my dissatisfaction with WOTN regarding No-loss. I admit I have not had much time to play so far and understand the first island has been done with all the characters already, and then the difficulty goes downhill. But the amount of RNG required to do first island no-loss is discouraging. And whose bright idea it was to place almost identical seven necro heroes on the first island? Send him to Turkish prison and give him some slippery soap:-) No disrespect to Turkish prison system here, I just remembered my favourite Airplane film.
7) regrettably, some Tiberiu's comments directly involved me and some of them I find very insensitive at best, so I decided to react.
quote: reloading 50 times before you are finally able to beat some invincible creep by abusing it's AI is not strategy, is lameness. Comment from Tiberiu on 28/10, two days after game launch. The only comment regarding 50 reloads in such a short of period of time after launch was my post in the No loss thoughts thread and is as follows : Well, I restarted the game 50+ times to see what the conditions are on the first island." Who talks about fighting here? Upon starting the very first playthrough I noticed problems right there on the first island. I would have thought with my previous experience things should go smootly straight away. Due to problems I restarted a game considerable amount of times in order to establish what I can expect from first island from advanced player point of view - basically which aspects are static / dynamic. So please do not tell me I am lame..And even if I was and also decided to restart 2000 times, it has nothing to do with you, but using expression - lame is immediately controversial, but you would of course defend your freedom of speech.
You repeatly bring subject of exploits/cheats/mods etc. Modes do not interest me much, none of my challenges was done in moded environment, but I can enjoy their entertaning value. KB scanner was helpful, I am unfortunately an adult with busy schedule, not student with plenty of free time, and I am not going to play for whole saturday looking for something specific, just to be denied due to RNG (providing there is a chance to get it under normal circumstances) . It just saves time and frustration. Cheats are however artificial help and a big no-no. But your grasp of exploits is somehow twisted - you mention reloading great many times in order to kite a map, defeating 1000 of bears with 1 royal snake, battle with hagni which took 200 turns. These examples of yours are absolute extreme. It means you have either no real knowledge of what you talking about here and never really played seriously hardcore (because it is extremely uncommon to play like that) or you've done it and picked these far-streched examples just to support your theory. Many of my challenges provide screenshots where one can clearly see number of turns and I tend to provide tips and tricks, if not full strategies as well. Due to nature of challenges battles take longer, but examples you have provided are extremely uncommon and rather than enlightening the community somehow with tips& tricks of yours you scare them off instead.
One quote deserves special attention - This is preposterous. Crappy exploits do not interest me. Impy's challanges were not fun at all to do and made absolutely no sense. I only go for challanges that are not based on silly exploits/cheats/mods and that do not involve reloading 1698 times until you finally kite that Map for Verona....Hmm..I never asked for any recognition for my challenges. If it helped others fine, it gave me personally a lot of fun. But you sir did not even bother to check my challenges properly. Condition were always clearly set on the first page and many clearly say - no kiting = paladin ultimate, playing without runes, playing without pet dragon..But according to you "crappy exploits" , "silly exploits" , exploits/cheats/mods. Again, I never asked for any regonision, I let the community to decide, but you're disrespectful,misleading, and actually hurtful, and I thought hard about this and I will not contact the moderators to step in yet. Take a breath Tiberiu, do whatever makes you happy, and if you do not want to change your ways then please leave me alone..

amen to that!;)

and sorry to let u in impy but you have some great runs so u got my respect! even tried some of them out which was fun

and on tiberiu's not

You really are one hell of a troll

by summing it up
1. you like to get people talk in a good or bad way
2. you actually don't contribute anything to these forums. but gladly get people annoyed
3. and on to post on impy's challengles you say that was all lame and blah blah well WHERE IS YOUR CHALLENGE? where is your SS? where is your YOUTUBE MOVIES? thats RIGHT nowhere! e.a read nr.2
4. i've observed u for quite some time now (not that could be missed) you seem like a very lonely person saying your smart and blah blah and then complaining about someone else his play
prolly cause you cannot do it (else show me otherwise in a vid, or just like to to prove something to someone else but lack the skill to do it properly)


and i bet your enjoying this so much

@ Impy.

First, no need to act this way matey. If you think I am a troll you can report my posts and my profile to the moderators of this forum. If they agree, I will be eliminated. Also you can set me on ignore and not respond to my posts.

Now to respond your points.

1) Your point is a BIG ad hominem attack on my person. This is a logical fallacy and I will not respond to such insulting nonsense. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

2) I talk this way in real life too with my friends. I never say "son" as an insult. Priests and the wise usually talk this way to others, do you think they mean it as an insult? I am very polite! I not want to harm or insult anybody. I am just stating some facts very blunt sometimes. :)

3) Well, smoking is indeed harmful and... you know how else :) you pay money to get poison. Not very smart if you ask me. But no need to argue about your personal problems here. There are psychologists which can help and programs that try to cure people from this. This forum is for Kings Bounty game so lets get back to the point. I may have worded my complainst in a sub-optimal way, but what I actually mean is that the game is poorly balanced if it allows 1 royal snake to beat 1000 bears. NOT that somebody who does it is stupid. I actually stated that it is logical and reasonable for the player to try to do no loss. I'm responsible for what I actually said not for what you wrongfully understand.

4) This is just another ad hominem attack from you against me, but I'll respond you a bit.

I helped some people here. Why do you ignore the facts? You are a lier sir. I never laughed at anybody nor insulted anybody like you say I did. I find it pitiful for somebody to find himself worthy for being respected and recognised on an internet forum. I am respected and recognised in the real life, in my chess community. I don't seek false fame over internet forums like others. Here I just exchange some ideas with some people and interact with others about a game.

5)Now when you win fight marked as impossible , that releases some endorphines doesn't it?

Yes, when it's a close battle with losts of casualties. When It's no-loss, it's just cookie cutter exploting and piece of cake abusing of some poor AI. Sorry it's just hard fact. The problem is that the game is unbalanced as it is, but I will mod it and will correct all the problems with the units. For example, all units that have running will have Run at reload 5. This will make it impossible for 1 snake to kill thousands of bears.

6.a- i look forward for challanging battles not cookie cutter exploits. Casting mana accelerator and phantoming a stack of inquisitors 1000 times in order to ressurect all your army is very poor game mechanic.
b- if they wanted to increase game time they shouldnt force players to rush through the game for a big score.
c- false. it's all about money, and the largest part of it comes form casual players, not veterans.

7. I don't know who you are nor care about you. I wrote what I wanted to write and expressed how I wanted as per my birthright to speak freely. If you think I did something against the rules to which I adhered to when signing up on this forum, report me to the moderators and stop complaining all the time. You give yourself too much credit. I wasn't reffering to you it was just a figure of speech. :)

You go on with another ad-homiem to which I won't respond because it's a logical fallacy and doesn't have a place in a civilized debate.

no it just means you make many assumptions about people you don't know just because they disagree with you :)

Good for you. I have nothing against you.

Change my ways? By this you mean "stop being logical and enjoying true challanges"? Then no. And I don't think I bothered you in any way. I did nothing to you. You should leave me alone if you don't have any advice to ask from me. I advise you to contact the moderators if you think I am a harmful and insulting troll.

This is my only and last replay to you if you do not address me more politely.

If the game is possible to finish without losses on hardest difficulty it can be challenging for those who strive for no-losses but too easy for good players who don't care about it.

I don't think no-loss concept is good for those who play on its rules either, because when you've finished no-loss on impossible, there is nothing to look forward to.

If losses were inevitable and they would count to score, you could always try to improve your score by avoiding even more losses which would be much less stressful than trying to improve your score by finishing the game in fewer game days.

@tiberiu
Who ever said on this WHOLE forum that no loss is `a must`, or that any1 not playing no loss is a noob, or stupid ??? No one !!! I havent seen a single post on this forum from no-loss player calling other to play that way, or telling some no loss obligation onto others.
But you in your first post to whole forum said no loss is stupid and wrong, and then stated you didnt insult anyone. Then in many other posts you tell players to just play and lose units, and dont lose time on it. If some1 want to play no loss, and ask question about it there are many to give advice how to do it. Your first reaction on this is to say dont play no loss, because if you do, then you`re stupid. Then in your wisdom, claimed `I`m smart player, and chessmaster and so great and so on... but then on forum ask how to open .kfs archive. Not very smart or bright are you?
1) Google.com
2) how to open .kfs file
3) press enter
4) profit

Are you priest (which might clear some things about you loving to address other forum commenter as son) or a wise man(obviously aren`t) ?

Total and utter LIE. 90% of responds to your posts are disagreeing with you, and you still claim you didnt insult any!

You posted this at least 100 times so far. pls send us all link to youtube where you actually dont this. No loss was never about losing time on 100 turn battle to finish, mine play with 100% crit archer army never took more then 10 minutes/battle 5-6 turns at most. How much time would take you to do 1 royal snake/1000 bears to finish? And what would be gain in that battle, except obvious exp for win, and lost time to finish it.

Who did you help? Where is a single post of you giving some actual advice to any1 here? Useful information, technical fact... anything? And you call other liars also, but never give proof of it. I`m still w8 for response of you calling me liar in message, but never will get because you are wuss and liar yourself. Call me liar, when i ask when and where i lied on this forum, your response was `ill add you to my ignore list`. Such a boy of facts and reason you are.

There is function made by modder of HoMM3 for the Legend, that make all mana/rage income=0 after 20 battle turn. Problem solved after 20 turn absolute no more mana/rega what you had in 19th turn will have to do untill end of battle. No more abuse of magic spring, or and other exploit as you said for infinite mana, or phantom inquisitors for infinite rage. I asked you for some practical result considering your bitching on this exploits 20 days ago, never got reply. Because you never had a slightest idea how to solve it, and then claim `I helped some ppl here` Load of crap.

That means to stop advertising onto other your way of thinking. If some1 ask for help/advice reply, dont make your first act `dont play no loss, it`s stupid (which you did many times already, in your short and pathetic activity on this forum). If you have some helpful idea on that tread title, share it. If your only response is to call players not to play certain way, then pls just dont reply on it.

By calling other players ideas no fun and senseless`, you mean you did nothing to him. OK here i can see how you think your insults arent considered as such. It makes so much sense. Then me saying `tiberiu you`re piece of s..t` is not an insult at all ?

Dude, you really need to give it up. You are arguing with a troll. You cannot win. Look at how he responded to me in that "no loss" thread:

"I'm not insulting anybody. I am the one who is insulted. I never said that is wrong to try to do no-loss,. quite the contrary. But you must learn to read and to stop being an asshole."

Yes, that's right, in the same paragraph where he claims he's not insulting anyone, he calls me an asshole. Expecting any sort of rationality from him is futile. Save yourself the trouble and just put him on ignore, your forum experience will be much nicer (well, except for everyone quoting him, sadly).