You are truly a joke if you think the 109 is not competitive with hurricane or spitfire in this patch. The 109 has far better armament, can outclimb, outrun and it is not far behind in turning performance.

You must be absolutely terrible if you can't outclimb red planes in the 109, the red planes still overheat badly too and can't use high rpm at altitudes above 10k.

News for you- ENERGY ACTUALLY MATTERS NOW. Although 109 still has advantage if conditions are equal, conditions never are equal and you can't now just outclimb and outspeed red planes in any given situation now.

You will see that the good 109 pilots like Atag_David_Red will still beat good spit pilot without too much trouble. The rest of the red pilots in the meantime have had to face terrible odds, persevered and have learnt a lot.

Go learn how to fly.

i woudlnt attack winger in such a way like you just did trademe...dont get personal mate!

and btw, you are not completely correct with your statements....the 109 suffers in performance as well at high altitudes,...and in fact, the hurri100 octane can keep up in speeds with the 109 at ~6000meters...

and the 109 is indeed far behind in turning performance if the RAF pilot turns not like a complete idiot..then the 109 has no chance to keep up in a turn(probably correct)....

i just want to say, why attack him?although i neithe agree with his initial statements, he may just got used to the previous flight models,...and now needs to cope with the new situation....so no reason to call him a joke,terrible and tell him to learn to fly...

GOSH. Read what ive wrote. Goddamnit and stop interpreting like you think is correct. I mean it how i wrote it.
I said with no word that i CANNOT outclimb......................
I said with no word that i cannot outrun.... In fact i wrote that the 109 IS actually competitive. Just that correcting performance even more towards "pro red" would destroy the competitive level of gameplay we have. Blue side has the slight advantage of speed and climbingperformace. While reds turn a heck of a lot better and dive as good. Its good how it is. Nothing else was my intent to say.
I know since day one of Clod that energy matters and the only tactics i use in 109 is BnZ since every other tactics is suicide in that plane. I KNOW THAT! Who the heck told you guys that i am trying to outturn and then get beating and complain. I DID NOT!!!! So why the heck do you folks imply i would?
READ man please READ PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! God my nerves....:P I should just not respond to such ignorant posts at all. Forums are my death someday:P *ommmmmmmm*:P

Winger

... me too played ROF quite long, liked your skin for the Albatros Eagle Head and "Gott mit uns" writing on the plane, nice one!
:)

Thanks. I converted the theme of my ROF skins to Clod too. I got no picture at hand currently. But i prepared for Flaming cliffs 3:):

Edit: I still go to ROF from time to time. Its a great game and if i am fed up of BnZ i go over and do some quick TnB:)

I agree with Winger contributions. Bf-109 is worse than it should ever be - or RAF aircraft are too good. :)

Guys, it's still just a game - and Winger pointed to one of its weaknesses.

Thats all folks, have a nice day ;)

Oh I was just waiting for this to happen so I brung this to the thread. http://i.imgur.com/sdzXk.jpg

Heh never thought i would ever say something like that. But you misinterpreted what i wrote too:) Maybe reread?:)

Winger

The reference to German aircraft as "Central". It's just toooo cute. :)

OK, so what »correcting performance even more towards "pro red"« are we talking about anyway? As far as I understand, this is the last patch and current FMs ain't going to change until all these planes appear again in any of upcoming sequel projects, or until some modder cracks the damn code and God only knows when either of two is going to happen. Makes the thread a little pointless doesn't it?