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raaaid 09-29-2012 09:18 PM

yeah well i deleted somethings for being nonsesnsical i accept the fact i know nothing for sure no point speculating

as a kid i learnt my intuition was usually right, but after seeing many things on tv very bizarre some of which later verified some others couldnt i dont even trust my senses now or well i trust them in a 50% much less my intuition so im thrilled at it working so well and caugthing that lie

Flanker35M 09-30-2012 07:57 AM

S!

I was in the belief that originally the F-16 stick did not move at all, but the small movement was put there per pilot request so they had some feedback of moving a controller they were used to in older generation planes. For example Boeing still has the "classic" yoke in their airliners even the system is FBW, to give the pilot feedback of controlling a plane. I could be wrong though.

zander 09-30-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 465264)
S!

I was in the belief that originally the F-16 stick did not move at all, but the small movement was put there per pilot request so they had some feedback of moving a controller they were used to in older generation planes. For example Boeing still has the "classic" yoke in their airliners even the system is FBW, to give the pilot feedback of controlling a plane. I could be wrong though.

Wiki says:

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Side-sticks and centre-sticks are better for making rapid control inputs and dealing with high g-forces, hence their use in military, sport, and aerobatic aircraft. However, yokes are less sensitive (i.e., more precise) thanks to a larger range of motion and provide more visual feedback to the pilot.[2]

Yokes take up more room than sidesticks in the cockpit, and may even obscure some instruments; by comparison, side-sticks have minimal cockpit intrusion, allowing for the inclusion of retractable tray-tables[3][4] and making it easier to enter/leave small cockpits.

A yoke, unlike a side-stick, may be used comfortably with either hand. This can be useful if one needs to write or manipulate other controls in the cockpit. This advantage is shared with the centre-stick.[2]

raaaid 09-30-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Outlaw (Post 464854)
Please give us the details on your flight experience in real aircraft. We are all dying to hear what you have to say!!

--Outlaw.

oh i just spotted whn rereading my asinine pathetic bs

i piloted a paraglide

youre very good spoting bs do you believe fjord moneky to be an f16 maintenance guy after his affirmation of a 6mm deadband in the stick?

why do you get on me and not him?

raaaid 09-30-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Outlaw (Post 464856)
As always, total and complete crap!

This is just like when you claimed that the gunship targeting systems tracked the gunners eye and not his helmet.

EVERYONE has heard of force sticks. They have been around for 20+ years!!!!! You could not be more ignorant if you tried. And I mean that LITERALLY. The fact that the F-16 was the first aircraft to use a force stick and that it's original zero travel was modified to a very small dead zone is so well known that the level of stupidity required to question it and/or fail to understand it is just staggering. And by staggering I mean that no human technology will ever be able to measure such a level.

All it takes to make a force stick is a wheatstone bridge and 2 strain gauges. Leo Bodnar even has wheatstone bridge circuits you can use to build your own force stick. I built one for IL-2 10 years ago but my home made circuitry had too much noise in it. Bodnar's is very nice. Coincidentally I sourced tiny strain gauges just a couple of weeks ago b/c I've been thinking of giving it another shot with Bodnar's circuits.

Strain gauges are a dime a dozen from www.omega.com and Bodnar's boards are known throughout the sim world.

The fact that you haven't come across one of those 2 sites just proves that you have no interest in learning anything nor of giving the rest of the world the benefit of your, "knowledge".

It simply proves that, AS YOU HAVE POSTED BEFORE, the reason you post on this forum is so that you can reread your asinine ranting later.



--Outlaw.

gradual force resistance allows for extreme short runs, even one micrometer run,what the amateur will call zero run

and my whole point is that short run is better to pilot

if i didnt discover anything, i rediscovered, and i am probably the only person in the wrold racing with 0.5 cm run in his wheel with big succes

Outlaw 09-30-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 465464)
oh i just spotted whn rereading my asinine pathetic bs

i piloted a paraglide

Quite a difference from your original LIE...

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man im a pilot, ive piloted many things, thats utter bs
What did you expect to gain with your lie?


Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 465464)
youre very good spoting bs do you believe fjord moneky to be an f16 maintenance guy after his affirmation of a 6mm deadband in the stick?

why do you get on me and not him?

Because he is right and you are wrong. I even affirmed his statements as fact in one of my own posts. A post YOU REPLIED to! How can you even be asking such a ridiculous question?

--Outlaw.

raaaid 09-30-2012 08:52 PM

oh so you say the f16 has a 6mm dead zone?

what a ridiculous statement back it up as ive backed it up it doesnt

http://www.realsimulator.com/assets/...-force-300.jpg

youre so biased towards me that even back up nonsense even you dont belive

maybe its being time to ignore you youre just a ahter who will say any nonsense to fullfill his hating agenda

raaaid 09-30-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Outlaw (Post 465500)
Quite a difference from your original LIE...



What did you expect to gain with your lie?




Because he is right and you are wrong. I even affirmed his statements as fact in one of my own posts. A post YOU REPLIED to! How can you even be asking such a ridiculous question?

--Outlaw.

what is my lie i piloted several paraglide his lie its he an f16 maintenance guy, i bet in his country there are like 5 of those

so after all this discussion you still believe the deazone bs

or should i say you LIE and say you beliv it when knowing its perfectly nonsensical because youre so full of hate towards me a guy who has nothing to hide and can go around the world telling what he thinks, i bet thats what makes you sick

Flanker35M 09-30-2012 10:12 PM

S!

Actually Norway has more F16's than 5 ;) Been there seen them. Thanks for the hospitality BTW, was great to visit Trondheim :D

raaaid 09-30-2012 10:24 PM

yeas but for heavens sake how gullible you have to be to believe than an f16 stick has a six mm dead zone and havent you fly sims and know pretty well the dead zone issue, its ridicuolus


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