i have already supported this software by buying a CE and a Standard version - thats over 100€ ....and didnt gave them back !!

When some people are thinking one is not "allowed" to criticese,and it deserves it (even the developers know, otherwise there would be no need for these desired patches :D ), this software im realy wondering how the 'free' world has developed....

And if the developing team is "dying" after this work....it would be a pitty, true, but not disastrous IMHO . As a 100% online combatflightsim player i personaly still enjoy IL2 ,developed by TeamDaidalos, IL2"Moded" and Rise of Flight !

Maybe in some alternative universe WoP looks better, but not here on Earth. I already removed WoP from my hard drive. It looks like crap.

Heliocon, I have to agree with David here. CloD looks much better when it's in motion. I thought CloD looked bad from screenshots - but when I finally got the game and flew around, I came to appreciate the details.

It definitely has its rough spots, but when in motion, I'd rate CloD over WoP. That is not to say WoP is bad, it's very good, I just wish that CloD would have the same amount of polish.

that is a very important comment.

i cant bring myself to be that supportive fanboy. because to support this you cant sit back and see what happens or is that infact what supporting means. . but iam afraid that is all we can do for many different reasons including not getting on peoples nerves at this forum. and well im not a fanboy. Or am i ? im not sure anymore. and im not perfectly content enough to get anywhere near supportive. so... this post is now irelevant isnt it ?

my support comes in the form of my quietness now in the belief that there is nothing i can do to make this outcome positive other than pay more money out to people like ubisoft. im happy for it to go directly to 1C btw.

what support can we possibly give out of interest because game review sites dont take into account fanboyism really. yet the scores are in low low figures. Its not us that has to support this over than buying it. Its 1C and Ubisoft. the ball is in there court. whilst 1 of thee parties will do the work the other wont. simple as that.

Are ubisoft running around generating support for 1C ? shed some light 1C developers. what are ubisoft exactly doing for you other than getting in the way at every junction ?

This is very true, in a way the specificality of the CloD name may be a good thing as the "next" expansion will clearly be called something else as it won't be over Dover, and is unlikely to have any Cliffs in it.

Brand recognition, etc., maybe the reviews for Sands of Malta will be 8s and 9s rather than 3s and 4s.

One lives in hope.

I bought the game on the euro release day. I don't think anyone from gamespot actually read the gamespot review, as I hang out on the pc forums there and made a post about it just to make people aware they reviewed an unpatched version. The sim forums seem to be the only ones fixated on the gamespot review.

No regrets here, though I still don't think the game is in a state that should be released.

I was playing WoP's version of a quick mission on the Med map when the enemy aircraft flew off the edge of the map. The game stopped and we were placed back on the map. The enemy flew off the edge again. I let this happen one more time before I exited from the game and removed it from my PC. It's going to take a lot more polish to fix problems like that.

Cut your losses 1C ,re-brand your own work. Loose ubisoft , Attract outside investment. GET OLEG BACK FFS !, Take Genuine ownership. drive the vehicle forward. make it happen. Take a leaf out of Eagle dynamics pages and approach to this realm if possible.

Myself and others will be waiting. and a damn sight more patiently and understanding too.

I'll buy CloD when its on store shelves in the USA. Till then I'll just keep following the forum....

By the way, do you actually believe that hardcore members of ths community, who raise their objections here, are doing the same in generic gaming forums?
For all that's worth, I (and I think all of us) am defending 1000% the game in all other forums.
We know all the legitimate excuses and can handle them better than any fanboy of this forum, but this doesn't mean that we're gonna fool our selves here, cause we actually love this game more than idiots who will accept half of a product instead of the whole potential that lies just in front of our eyes.

Simple translation of above statement for those having mind problems: if devs stick to fanboys' posts, they better get ready for the death of their game, cause these posts will force them to believe that they're "there". And when these fanboys return to their pacman or some heretic religion against free-speech, devs will turn back to their real supporters and ask "what the heck did we do wrong?" and they will get the simple reply "we were telling you all this time and you only thought that we were rude".