Any plane with a real good pilot has a massive advantage. I've been flying mostly Red on servers because the blue team is usually large on numbers ( This is caused by players not knowing how to start and warm up spits/hurris ). And I've been flying the Spit Ia for a while now and from what I experienced the planes both have their advantages, and if you stick to them it's really hard to down either 109 or Spitfire. There is no massive difference in the 2 planes in terms of dogfighting.

+1

@Recon

Dude I have flown the Hurri Rotol lots of times and was solely flying that at the beginning of this sim, I don't know what your doing wrong if you cant climb with a 109 m8 I really don't..

Ive also had height advantage over 109's and either killed them or forced them to the ground...I dont understand why your having such a hard time..if your getting caught by higher EA then im afraid thats your fault and you would suffer the same regardless what bird your in or what side your on.

@Jugdriver

Stop being a Troll... were having a discussion..stop trying to bait an argument

It's amazing that every time a new sim comes out it's always the same discussion. Apparently people are very resistant to learning the one ancient maxime, around ever since people started flying combat sims against each other over the internet and still as viable as it was back then:

He who takes off from a besieged field will die above a besieged field.

If there aren't alternative fields available then it's simply an insufficient setup of the map.

Exactly, I usually take off and flyaway from the coast until I get to about 3-4k even if there is no sign of enemy aircraft around my field! This way when I get to about 3-4k I can turn back and head for the action knowing that not only will I have some altitude under my belt, but also I will be entering the danger area with a whole heap of speed and a well trimmed plane, and if I am really lucky with the sun at my back ;) It is well worth spending the extra 10 minutes at the start of the sortie and setting your self up, there is no future in being the one struggling for altittude, with no speed in reserve and having the enemy dropping down upon you!!

Craig

Whatever Jamz; For once the discussion has been civil, that is until you showed up. All I have every asked in discussing the Spit II is that it was civilized and honest, something you obviously can’t do. More insults and BS, typical, and you call me a troll, what a hypocrite.

JD
AKA_MattE

When is ATAG going to be running the new patch?

My thoughts are that it may be wise to wait and see if Luthier can quickly fix the crash/freeze problem when explosions occur.

I have downloaded the latest patch but mulling as to wether its worth installing based on the feedback so far. If ATAG does go with the new patch I will install it.

The new Revi looks awfull , bring back the old one .
The cockpit of the new patch is ok imo
Colors are also bether
Sounds are nice , but stil bugged
And the game freeses alot if bombs or planes explodes .
So i would say dont instal new patch please

Sweet jesus forget my last post...the new patch is horrible horrible horrible!!!!!!!!!!!

Please forget this April fools joke and keep original Beta!!!

I am gobsmacked so baddly at the utter sh*tness of this patch and I am not one who normally gives two hoots about computer games.

Colours horrible, sounds bugged but in places better, Auto prop pitch LOL, freezes and crashes but no memory leak, revi disaster, lots of changes to things that weren't that bad why???

Original point still stands...

Muppet