A week or two back B6 mentioned it reaching alpha in 2013, so not that close.

Not good for business, but beats out of business.

I think the sales of the sequel will mostly reflect that they go back to the Eastern front, cater the home market, which is what made Il-2 successful in the first place. If they get it right that time, all the trouble with CloD won't matter much. Commercially. And that's why luthier has no options but to meet the deadlines.

i have to say that i'm very disappointed. :(

The game was released and sold as a product while it was just a half a product. Few patches released did not rise it to the product it should be.

Now, to get a product i all ready payed for i need to buy more?

that's maybe called business in Russia but in the rest of the world that's called fraud.

Yes, so to those who say this is such good news for Cliffs of Dover because improvements in the sequel will be backed into CloD, what this means is maybe, yes

...in 2014 or later!!

Who is going to care, two years from now, serious?

hope you will offer refunds if the last patch turns to be not enough to make it a fully working product..

Was it going to be any other way?

What an absolute car-crash of a release over a year ago....

That's me done with 1C. Shame as the community is so passionate about aircraft and yet for some reason 1C could not do something easy as follow up on a success story that was IL2....it baffles the mind.

The sequel is free of charge i assume?
Take a good look at http://riseofflight.com/en and learn..

Cracks me up that people are backing this company.

See, in business, when you dont deliver on what you say, you dont make money.

You dont deserve to be sucessful when you put out broken products. Personally, its the devs fault CLoD was a mess. Obviously, not up to the task. Nobodys fault but theirs.

Sob story of "We have supported our product more than most companies" LOL. If it wasnt such a pile of crap, you wouldnt have to still be trying to fix things over a year later.

If you didnt understand my feelings of this new...I will not buy crap from these folks. Too many other companies that put customer first, that release quality, working products.

I do understand why you won't buy crap. I don't understand why you are spamming a message board for a company that you have declared that you won't support.

Lots of ww2 flight simulations out with current generation graphics?