Civilians?Now that will be cruel...
Hope the military can interact with bailed pilots.Either well or bad.

Wouldn't be of any help for them, since my 4 years old PC is below min. requirements. :grin:

So, it plays smoothly (25-45 FPS) only above water. Also, I may tell, that people should think about upgrading to DX10, because, the game seems to be more stable and definitely MUCH better looking with it.

So I expect you'll be finding a spot mid-channel to stake out as your own? ;)

Cheers!

No, I'll just upgrade, after the game will be released. :cool:

If I were you, I couldn't upgrade fast enough, rather than trying to test a slide show. ;)

Half your luck! I'm stuck on socket 775 for the next year or so!

At least I will be able to skip a generation or so of CPU's when I get my next major upgrade!

Cheers!

I always seam to be a step behind with my upgrade cycle and the gamesI play! Maybe not a slide show level but definitely not at full quality graphics. My current rig can handle ROF fairly well so it will be interesting how well it does with BoB when it's released!

Cheers!

For my current working purposes, it is enough to run things over the water, where FPS is high.

But, when I start playing this game, I'll buy me a new PC, which will be able to run it smooth at any place in the game. :cool:

quote
Originally Posted by major_setback http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/images/...s/viewpost.gif
Someone will be along soon to ask you what computer you were running it on...
:smile:




Care to share those min. requirements?:grin:

Personally I wouldn't updgrade to Directx 10, because it's already outdated.

It would be good to see the same video that we had this week but this time in DX11 with all settings maxed out. AA etc, just to see how it runs and what FPS can be expected, im guessing but I would imagine that 1C's biggest problem right now will be getting this game to run smoothly, thats probably why we have seen no high res video at this moment in time and have no indication on system specs even this late in the day. However Oleg has already stated that there will be a dedicated website, so maybe he's holding back 'in game' finished shots until the website is ready, which I should imagine will be soon if we are looking at a Spring release. :grin:

Ask Oleg. :rolleyes:

Ok, read my comment as "at least DX10". :cool:

Besides, the DX design is so, that each subsequent version includes, or enhances features of the previous one. So, upgrading to anything, better, then DX10 would do the job automatically.

The thing is, however, that upgrading to at least DX10 would require OS upgrade for those, who (like me, for instance) still use Win XP. Which is kind of bigger step then just DX upgrade and will cost money.

Oleg's statemant to this:

"in video recording is impossible to write maxed out graphics.. I don't know why. Bug. Not all textures loading when you record video file from track.
This is our own program. It is cioponvertation from recorded track of fligth into the AVI of any codecs, that are licensed to user. And it it using the features of video cards. The we should use better video card that we haven't currently."

Oleg have you tested recording with FRAPS?

Oleg, if you don't want to spend the 25 bucks on FRAPS full, I can donate you one.

Last I heard they were still optimising and debugging the code. I doubt something like FRAPS could tell them anything useful.

I suspect they would be using the debugging and optimisation tools that come along with the programming languages they are using to help isolate the inefficient sections of code that are slowing down the sim.

Something like FRAPS would only be useful to get an over all indication of speed. It doesn't tell you which bits are causing the slowdowns.


I would like to know how close the version being put on display is to being finished. I wonder if the missions being demonstraited are on proper maps or have they removed inefficient objects so that it runs at an acceptable frame rate for the demo?

Cheers!

Yes, it seems like there is a bug in transferring all the info when converting to avi (or similar) using their in-house method. Fraps won't help that.

Sigh - it is the sort of bug that sounds like it could take time to fix, unlike a spelling mistake on the instrument panel (for example).

Buckingham Palace slight change?
 

Hi Saqson / Oleg

The Buckingham Palace image may be a slight bit off - missing an extra light fitting or two.

See here :-

http://www.westendatwar.org.uk/image...7-18Sept40.jpg

I am sure it will not be a bother flying at 300mph or whatever - just thought I would point out - you can obviously tell what building it is. I am sure the AI (Luftwaffe demolition squad) are well aware as well :)

As an aside have you looked at the google archive of LIFE magazine?

Click on images link at google and then search for something like :

london 1940 source:life

The "source:life" is the important bit at the end. Before that just add the keywords you want to search for.

There are quite a few pictures of london - some of bomb damage and even in colour. Loads of other images as well.

May be useful reference?

Cheers

From the way I have seen suggested by Oleg, max graphics won't be available because as new hardware comes in, the graphics get better and better.
However, I wonder if, like in Il-2, max-settings can be achieved (e.g water=4) with this value being able to increase as new hardware 'improves' the graphics.
I can imagine SoW might have a similar system in this way to Il-2, as Oleg's motto seems to be "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and Il-2 is, IMO, really user friendly.

Release date for BoB?
 

Anyone can translate the bottom details?

http://igromir.softclub.ru/games.aspx?id=il-2

From what I can deduce it looks like Spring 2011 release date?

As you can read in the "Release Thread"!

And because it's a Russian speaking site you think that makes it more officious?

И потому что это русских говоря сайте вы думаете, что делает его более официозный?

Or maybe in French

Et parce que c'est un site russophone vous pensez qui le rend plus officieux?

Sorry guys, no one knows at this point.

I agree, take it with a pinch of salt

It is not the language, that makes it more officious, but it's name. May be, you didn't notice a large letters in the left top corner of it, saying "1C-SoftClub", which is a game making division of 1C. It's where Oleg gets his salary, BTW. And this is their completely official web site.

OK. It will be a bonus if it releases Spring 2011...

What if it releases within the next month or so?

Whoops...

Our prognostications are meaningless. Oleg is working on it with vigor. He is probably changing target release dates once a week (in house information)

You can bet he will release ASAP, five plus years in development. He will also release a sigh of relief we will hear across three continents. LOL

Official. Officious is bad.

Is Igromir really that unfamous?
I can't find any information about it on any wellknown gamesite.

You're right. I thought about it later...but heck this is just a forums, there are stranger things shared. LOL

Now, who the hell is Vigor ? Since when is this guy working with Oleg ? :confused: Why would this guy decide when the game is released ? :(


:grin::grin::grin:

Google: igromir 2010
About 95,700 results (0.44 seconds)


:confused:

Hecke doesn't know what Google is. :-P

I'm not russian, so this hyieroglyphic stuff doesn't help me out.

I actually meant german or english gamesites giving news about Igromir 2010, but it seems to be nowhere as famous as Gamescom.

You like numbers?

Google: Gamescom 2010
About 11.200.000 results (0,09 Sekunden)

He either doesn't know what Google translate is. :grin:

The same applies to you. Otherwise you would know what crap comes out when translating russian into another language.

Wow thanks!...an eye roll, what are you like 19 or so?:grin:

Translation
 

Translation:

Battle of Britain "in minute detail plays off the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and the German Luftwaffe in alliance with air force fascist Italy.
Flight simulation covers the events of summer
autumn 1940 in the best tradition of the famous series "IL-2 Sturmovik, focusing historical and technical accuracy.

Game map includes a huge territory from London to Normandy and from Southampton to Dankerka.

A single campaign will give players the chance to prove itself in a wide variety of air battles in hot battles, interception, battles, mission to rescue comrades and many other jobs.

Huge selection of aircraft from the second world, among which the famous "Messerschmitt", "Junkers Ju-87» Supermarine Spitfire, and Heinkel He-111.

A variety of multiplayer modes in a single battle will come up to 128 players.

Online training to help you quickly learn the complete course-from the basics of flight before tactics dogfight, computer instructor will notice and will correct errors and flexible settings allow to optimize gameplay depending on your skill level.

Comment:

Much the same as other announcements, (but they missed out the Bf 109 from the list!), no date mentioned.

However, other sources, not necessarily reliable, have suggested 25 Feb 2011!

Tally Ho Chaps !

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...itlescreen.jpg



Hope Battle Of Britain includes the following speech pack-

Monty Python's Banter sketch-

(Scene: a wartime RAF station)

Jones: Morning, Squadron Leader.

Idle: What-ho, Squiffy.

Jones: How was it?

Idle: Top-hole. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how's-your-father;
hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a waspy,
flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.

Jones: Er, I'm afraid I don't quite follow you, Squadron Leader.

Idle: It's perfectly ordinary banter, Squiffy. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite
right in the how's-your-father; hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered
back on his sammy, took a waspy, flipped over on his Betty Harpers and
caught his can in the Bertie.

Jones: No, I'm just not understanding banter at all well today. Give us it
slower.

Idle: Banter's not the same if you say it slower, Squiffy.

Jones: Hold on then -- Wingco! -- just bend an ear to the Squadron Leader's banter for a sec, would you?

Chapman: Can do.

Jones: Jolly good. Fire away.

Idle: Bally Jerry... (he goes through it all again)

Chapman: No, I don't understand that banter at all.

Idle: Something up with my banter, chaps?

GRAMS: AIR RAID SIRENS
(Enter Palin, out of breath)

Palin: Bunch of monkeys on the ceiling, sir! Grab your egg-and-fours and
let's get the bacon delivered!

Chapman (to Idle): Do *you* understand that?

Idle: No -- I didn't get a word of it.

Chapman: Sorry, old man, we don't understand your banter.

Palin: You know -- bally tenpenny ones dropping in the custard!
(no reaction)

Palin: Um -- Charlie choppers chucking a handful!

Chapman: No no -- sorry.

Jones: Say it slower, old chap.

Palin: Slower *banter*, sir?

Chapman: Ra-ther.

Palin: Um -- sausage squad up the blue end?

Idle: No, still don't get it.

Palin: Um -- cabbage crates coming over the briny?

The others: No, no.

You want to pi** off one of the only people here who knows anything about BoB?

Sorry SaQSoN, on behalf of the community.

It should read:

'..from Southampton to Dunkirk..'

Agree, aware it should be Dunkirk, translation copied verbatum grammatical and spelling errors included. I have a rule which is never to change someone else's written word unless it's going out over my signature.
With hindsight perhaps I should have added (sic) after "Dankerka":-)

Actually, the French spell it 'Dunkerque'. Us Brits can't get it right either...

Is this it Stiboo?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKYL0tW-Ek

LOL One of my favourites!

I wonder how difficult it would be to sample the voices from a copy of the video and substitute it into the R/T voice files?

Cheers!

( and thanks for putting a smile on my dial this morning! )

Thanks Richie

watched this sketch a thousand times and never looked at the Hurricane at the start!

To think it was only 30 years after the real Battle Of Britain....IL2 has now been going for 10 years already!

I still prefer the Python sketch - wartime 'funniest joke in the world'
"over 80,000 times as powerful as Britain's great pre-war joke"

Prehaps i've got time to watch all 4 series before BoB is released...


Toodle pip old fruit

So is there a name change with the sim? "IL-2 Sturmovik Battle Of Britain" now?

In fact I used google to research it.
The translation of igromir's hp[http://igromir-expo.ru/] is pretty useful.

I think you could say:

- Igromir is for the RU market only
- igromir is a rather small booth

Conclusion: Western magazines don't give a flying f about it.

All those infos were ready at your fingertips.

I think this might be a Russia only thing since IL-2 has much better name recognition there than in the North American market. IL-2: Battle of Britain might confuse people here in N.A., "IL-2 what's that?" Meanwhile, "Storm of War" has a nice ring to it.

Just a thought.

looks like, could be indicator ubi won't be the publisher.:confused:

Sure is an option, but it would create hell for the marketing guys, especially if you consider later add-ons.

If they go for IL2 as an umbrella brand, they could use the rep of the original IL which is in fact very well known.

You don't have to be, really. I know well, there are people who take everything around them over-serious and I am not one of them. :)

expo in moscow now...
in right corner next title.
"Battle For Moscow" :D

Interesting ... :cool:

Interesting indeed... but I like it! :)

May I ask where you found this picture?

An indicator? heres a better one, - UBI IS NOT THE PUBLISHER!!!

Over a year ago i posted up my conversation with James OReilly at ubisoft, they dont come much higher than him hes the group brand manager. Obviously very few on here believed me but now it seems that its finally sinking in that UBI ARE NOT THE PUBLISHERS. :grin:

Battle of Moscow makes eminent sense as a sequel to BoB.

- More or less same planes on the German side as in BoB.

- A big Russian home market.

- Makes sense chronologically.

- Explains 1C's modelling efforts of German armour and vehicles.

- The Battle was just as important for the outcome of WWII as the BoB.

I'd love it!

BTW, to the ignorami (thankfully on my ignore list) who don't seem to know it... - Saqson is a longtime collaborator of Oleg.

Maybe a sequel to Theatre of War 2?
I mean,the Il2 picture is undetailed, I´m not sure it´s from Maddox Games.

It's actually IL-10 from FB addon "IL-10 over Manchuria" Russian CD cover.

The big question is who will be the publisher!

This demo may be a ideal event for an announcement.

Time, I guess, will tell.


Cheers!

1C:SoftClub in CIS and UBi elsewhere.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(

Has this been common knowledge (and I've been walking around with my eyes closed! ) or has it been recently announced?

Many thanks for the heads up!


Do you hear that, Fezzik? That is the sound of ultimate suffering. My heart made that sound when the six-fingered man killed my father.

Umm...

so that might mean we got the Ubi always-on connection problem?

You forgot to say that you have been flamed and offended for it. :rolleyes:

Anyway, where can I get my russian copy from?

I think we could just copy and paste this for the next 20 pages, save everyone time.

Neither. Ubi, obviously, has more experience, then, say, DT with premature announcements. ;) So, it is rather smart for them to keep a low profile on this, until the product is ready for PR campaign (from their point of view). Otherwise, they may have gotten into the same swamp, as DT with their/our premature announcement of 4.10 schedule. :)

PS Official disclaimer. Anything, I may tell you about Ubi relation to BoB is my personal speculation and has no official weight. ;)

After ROF I'm not so scared of always on connections (Not an issue with ROF now). It won't stop me from buying the sim.

Cheers!

One of my favourite things about Il-2 was it's unobtrusive CP.
Plus, picture taking the week off to play BoB when it comes out... oh dear, ubi servers go down like they did with Assassin's Creed.
I still hate the connection aspect of RoF, DCS etc, I just figure life's too short not to play them.

So, SaqSon, is it the Battle of Moscow up next? :)

If Ubisoft is indeed the publisher then I'll not buy BoB - unless the russian version doesn't have Ubi's DRM sh*t and I can get my hands on it (and if I can switch it to german or at least english). I am in no way going to endure that cr@ppy POS Ubi uses to punish honest customers.:evil:

Same here. There's still a chance though that Ubi would ship it without their crappy DRM (like the recently released RUSE). The system doesn't make much sense if it's not used by all versions worldwide in the same way.

Then again, even without the DRM there are still enough reasons not to buy from Ubi...

I'd rather see Korea in that role. ;) And I hope, this is the way it's going to be.

Which (beginning of the end) lasts for almost 10 years now. :lol:

Sorry Saqson, but Ubi's policy of alienating customers is not something that's positive. If I may say so - Il-2 was/is successful despite Ubi's involvement, not because of them.

I never was bothered with any copy protection in games, to be honest. So, I don't care about such things. But that's another story. :cool:

Sure but the whole point of Ubi's system is not to provide any kind of offline options. Besides ROF still doesn't allow offline campaigns, which happens to be the most important offline game mode.

I'm sure they do, and with any luck they will. All depends on the contracts though, which we won't be able to look into ;) If we're lucky they are too old to consider digital distribution, and we might get it directly from 1C through Steam (which is as far as I'm willing to go with DRM).

Well, then you better look into Ubi's latest idea. They force playsers to be online all the time (something distantly related to cloud computing) but can't guarantee working servers to begin with. Not to mention that they put a stamp "Potential software pirate" on each and every user. This is IMO simply unacceptable.

Pls go flog that old horse somewhere else....

RoF's protection is ok for me because is not invasive at all. However we dream if we pretend a not antipiracy protection.

So, for the time being this is in no way true. Correct?

No, not correct. It's "no matter, if this true, or not - you didn't hear it from me, you don't know me and I never have told you anything". ;)

UBI it is then?

Pity. I hardly ever posted here so far. But I suppose I need to say this now...I vowed to not buy SHV due to the DRM. As life goes, I got too edgy not to own it and got it nevertheless.

I will never make that mistake again. The fear of some internet disruption forever spoiled me enjoying SHV carefree like the old titles. I've been always slightly on edge of another server disco. And there were quite a few. If that is the price to pay for copy protection, then this price is too high. I play to relax, not to be stressed out.

Hopyfully the russian version will be available.

Cheers.

I too will not buy if UBI's copy protection is on the disk. I would go for steamworks though.

Sorry to be such a newbie regarding all this UBI "protection thing" but are some people reacting allready to something that "might" happen or not ?
Could you explain what would be the worst scenario in means of playability of SOW if UBI were to be publisher ? Maybe I was lucky , but I never encountered any issues in that matter:rolleyes:

Thanks to all !

Salute

I'll buy it regardless, and moan like efff it the CP stops me from playing even once.

An always on connection could be a good thing though, if we get integrated chat, server browsers (didn't Oleg mention something about this a while back or am I imagining it?), online stats and stuff.

I have no need for any of that Dano. I decide when I go online, not some greedy beancounting tie-wearer in the marketing department of some publisher. I do own a few steam games but at least you can stay offline on this one. Ubi is doing cloud-computing instead ... which doesn't work.

Those are all multiplayer features, and I don't think anyone has problems being online for that :) Personally I have no interest in any of those things, just like with achievements that can be shared over Facebook and unlock avatars for use in game-related spinoff apps on my smartphone...

If it's a problem they'll fix it. DRM is supposed to increase revenue not decrease it, both for publisher and devloper, thus keeping Oleg fat and happy and productive.

Looking forward to maybe getting some more information from this thing in Moscow, and perhaps finding out if The Battle for Moscow is SoW related. Anyone able to read and translate what the sub-text below 'Battle for Moscow' is in that picture posted?

Of course, I'm only stating my personal opinion.

Hey,

i am very :confused: now.
Can someone please clear up about it.

Is Ubisoft the publisher or not or don't we know yet? DRM -> Keep your sh*t.

We do not entirely know for sure, but general opinion is that Ubisoft will not be the publisher this time, we still wait for confirmation by Oleg

However, after so many years, and considering that 1C has already make a sort of "official" announcement for BoB, would be nice have some more info about Ubi or not Ubi, release date ecc. ecc..

This sim seems to be more secret than Fatima.

Is going to be quite boring this. Six years of speculations are more than enough i think.

+1

It seems lik Ubi owns the "Storm of War" internet domain. Then it is a litle bit strange if Ubi will be the publisher and the game is marketed without the "Storm og war" title. Maybe they will use "Il-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Britain" in russia, and "Storm of war: Battle of Britain" in the rest of the world? Just a thought. I really hope Ubi is not involved..

Skarphol

Do you really think that if this game is as close to release as Oleg makes out that we would not have seen something from Ubi by now, of course we would, there has been no mention of SOW or whatever the title maybe from UBI for years, dont listen to these guys who pretend that they are on the 'inner circle' half of them are full of shite.

1C publishing the game everywhere as "Storm of war Battle of Britain" without DRM and everybody is happy.

To play FC 2.0 you need also Lock-On by Ubisoft because Ubisoft has the copyrights for Lock-On serie.

If BoB will be IL2 Sturmovik, is clear to me that the pubblisher will be Ubisoft for the same reason. I'm wrong? Do you think that somebody else could sold a game called IL2 Sturmovik in West Europe?

...speculations off course...

Ubi didn't publish "Il2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey" for a start. It all comes down to contracts which aren't public knowledge for good reason. The situation with Lock On was different; ED had the rights to do two addons without Ubi's involvement. They wouldn't be able to release a "Lock On" product on their own, but that doesn't mean it has to be the same for Il2.

lmao!!!!

Without some sort of capable DMR, everyone that worked hard for SOW will get robed by a bunch of teenagers that consider it an insult to pay for software, and in the end, we all are going to be robed of funds for future SOW addons.
I have many games that require some sort of connection and it didn't stop me enjoy them. I have a bunch of steam games, ROF, and all the Lock On games and i never had a problem with them.
With the fast connections this days, a game with poor DMR is doomed from the start.

I'd say let them get paid for their work.