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very nice indeed. A really good read and a great accomplishment.

Grats, Sector24! Nice job (and surprisingly nice score.) :)

hey sector24,
awesome job! a truly awesome effort!

If you were to do it again, i think a better challenge would be to complete paladin on impossible with the highest amount of cash in hand. The tricky part should be no transfer of troops between areas. i.e. after you finish darion, you have to recruit your new army from only what's available in the islands. And so on.

What your proposing now i think is too dependant on the availability of sacrifce.

I can't understand how some of you are doing it so easily on impossible.. Is there a "beating the game on impossible" without cheating thread?

shd said that he beat the game with a mage on impossible, but I don't think he blogged about it like I did. I'm sure the Paladin and Mage can be done with no losses on impossible, and the warrior too if you don't mind starting over if you can't find a resurrection scroll.

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Originally Posted by sector24 (Post 58703)

So you're saying it can be done? To beat the game on impossible with no losses?

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Originally Posted by Kings Bounty Hunter (Post 58690)

I can't understand how some of you are doing it so easily on impossible.. Is there a "beating the game on impossible" without cheating thread?

And how do you know anyone is cheating? Just because YOU can't accomplish the same? I'm all for playing fair and I do but just because you can't fathom how it's done doesn't automatically make people cheaters.

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Originally Posted by sector24 (Post 58203)

I imagine I did play more than 60 hours. The first post is October 18th, and I probably played ~4 hours a day with the occasional breaks.

So I beat the game this evening. I'm not sure what to say about the last fight. Your tactical position ensures that the losses will be atrocious, so it was really just a grind to survive the Armageddons and knock the enemy down to a single giant while you use Magic Spring to regain mana. I used the girl power army, but it was definitely less than ideal. Sprites are vulnerable to fire and there was no need to bring Dryads with nothing to Lullaby. Still it was good enough to win and that's all that matters.

You can see my attachments for the score. I think 19 days is pretty good considering the no losses challenge. I could definitely have shaved off 2 days for an unnecessary trip from Ellinia to Darion, and if I skipped Anga's Ruby that would be another 2 days. I could definitely see how players could win in 13-14 days. Ironically my Zerock and Sleem were level 30, but my other two were not. I used Time Back exclusively, I never used Soul Drain which is the big XP gainer. Other than that no surprises in my combat statistics. My highest critical hit for the game was 52,788. I updated my signature to reflect the awesome. ;)

I hope you guys enjoyed reading, I must say that this challenge is definitely doable on impossible, but probably not with the warrior unless you find Resurrection very early. I imagine that you'd have to go to the Freedom Isles immediately (like around level 6 or 7) and see if you could buy it from a merchant there or find it in a scroll bag. If you could find Resurrect though, it would be the same as doing it as a Paladin.

I don't plan on another crazy challenge, but if I was going to try one, it'd be a no recruitment challenge. Playing as a Mage on normal/hard, the only restriction is that you cannot buy units. You would have to rely on purchasing items such as eggs, diplomacy, necromancy, and friendly/graveyard units. Unfortunately people report having problems with the diplomacy skill so it might not work out like I imagine it in my head. :-P

What, you don't get experience for killing things with soul drain? :eek: This is why I never hit level 30, always 29. :-x

Sorry, I meant Reaper's XP not your character's XP. From what I understand, your character gets experience based strictly on the number of units you wipe out regardless of how you do it. But the spirits of rage gain xp based on the skills they use AND who they use it on and several other factors. So it's very easy to level Zerock with Underground Blades, especially if you're hitting level 5 units. Reaper is also easy to level if you use Soul Drain on say Black Dragons or Black Hole on level 5 units.

My Reaper didn't hit level 30 because I used Time Back 95% of the time, and Rage Drain the other 5%. ;)

I never hit level 30 until I started taking the paladin skills to gain extra exp. Both games I took the skill I hit level 30 (one was mage on hard the other was paladin on hard). I forget what the skill is called but with the mage game I only took the first two levels of that skill and I took them very early. The paladin game I had extra mind runes so I took that skill all three level and the second skill that gives you extra exp against undead.

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Originally Posted by Zhuangzi (Post 58745)

What, you don't get experience for killing things with soul drain? :eek: This is why I never hit level 30, always 29. :-x