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Originally Posted by AbortedMan (Post 472150)

Torian I wholly agree with you on this subject. I've never been one to call "cheat" in online games, as I know for sure people are better than me at many games...but when the evidence presents itself in such a way, it's hard not to wonder.

To anyone that is speaking in absolution about no one cheating, don't kid yourself. It is entirely, completely, and utterly probable that there are cheaters out there playing CloD...it's a piece of software just like any other and VAC is not the end-all cheat prevention. With 1C's apparent limited resources in regards to coding this game, I doubt there was any attention paid to cheat prevention other than the obvious and "along-the-way" sort of fixes.

Like I said, I'm not one to ever accuse of cheats/hacks, unless its painfully obvious (as seen in some Battlefield 3 games) but my vote is that this group is up to something...and it's evident by noting what gets damaged on your aircraft before you are PK'd. There have been several occasions where nothing, and I mean NOTHING gets hit on my aircraft except my pilot from a shot that was ~200m-500m away. No damage, no hitsound, no systems failure messages, decals, tracers, just black screen. To believe that someone can repeatedly pull a pilot killing sniper shot off on a REGULAR basis from a moving aircraft at range is questionable to say the least.

And please take into account there are multiple people saying this. Torian and I are not the only ones noting something fishy, obviously.

I agree there are good pilots/players out there, but this is extremely suspect.

I would suggest you provide proof in the form of videos and screenshots.

Otherwise it is just speculation.

Unfortunately, I do not have proof, and this is speculation.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

As I'm not in the position to take action against said pilots, my producing proof is irrelevant, and a moot point. I'm stating what I believe is true and that the OP is not alone in this matter.

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Originally Posted by AbortedMan (Post 472153)

...my producing proof is irrelevant, and a moot point...

Far from true.

If you produced convincing proof, you could undoubtedly get these pilots banned on the popular servers.

Otherwise you are just casting doubt on the integrity of the pilots, without providing any facts. Kinda like certain political techniques best not mentioned.

And we don't need politics on this forum...

Aborted,

Just to clarify...
Every pilot is in a position to take action on ATAG. All that is needed is to submit proof of any claims and such proof will be evaluated and actions taken if necessary.

In this particular case, I believe no one has any proof of wrongdoing hence no action is taking place.

Above statement aside, I personally think he's a very good shot and doubt there's cheating involved but I have no problem whatsoever of being proven wrong.

Colander,

Of course, if I were to come upon information that could prove that something was being exploited I would make the effort to report through the appropriate channels. I meant I'm not in the position to acquire such information, as in, proof is unattainable to me through conventional (and legal) means.

Please tell me that the people in this thread are not oblivious to the possibility of cheats being used online. I understand that no one wants to slander another or compromise the integrity of another player, but don't let that cloud your vision of the *possibility* of foul play.

The possibility exists and that is the reason we are talking about providing proof. If there was no such possibility, this whole thread would be moot :grin:

One thing I really regret is that track recording is causing disconnects. Recording the missions on the server would be the ideal way to acquire proof of cheat/no cheat and/or discover others that no one might have noticed.

Sadly, recording in the server will cause every one to get disconnected (I tried it some time ago).

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc (Post 472050)

He does not cheat. He probably has over 2000 hours and VAC is enabled now. Getting a PK is much easier with AP it go right though everything even from dead 6.

Have the developers confirmed this?

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Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw* (Post 472148)

Historically British pilot armour would defeat 7.92 mm MG rounds, but not cannon.

I think it can not stop tungsten AP rounds. If you load 100% AP this makes pilot completely unprotected, as if he sits in the air without any cover I guess. Thus PK comes with the first bullet that hits aircraft body.

In reality, aricraft weren't armoured, except for IL2 (cannot wait :) ) .. any well aimed shots are going to hit the pilot especially for early, unarmoured aircraft.

Plus, i have force-feedback joystick, trying to out-fly someone without a FF would probably be futile ??? yes ? no ?

Cannot wait for the AI to be fixed so historic offline campaigns can be made .. :grin:

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Colander (Post 472164)

Sadly, recording in the server will cause every one to get disconnected (I tried it some time ago).

Actually you can record, I did quite a bit of online testing on your server, during which I recorded, but the times I did so, there were only 10-15 pilots online. Haven't tried when there is the usual high point of 40+ pilots