the thing i found out is that a short run on the controls allows you to countersteer faster both for a stall in a plane or a spin in a car

it also makes you more agresive

no point just sharing the knowledge :)

edit:

what i rediscovered today its that a big force resistance reduces sensitivity

so you have the advnatage of a short run being able to counters teer in an stall with enhanced reaction time with a normal sensitivity due to the copensantion by the force

arent internet bulletins great? :)

The stick has no sensitivity other than the sensitivity to the force being applied by the pilot. He hardly moves it because he cannot, apart from a tiny amount of "deadzone" built in to give tactile feedback.

Will you understand this? Maybe, but I doubt it. And why do you think it is more sensitive than WW2 sticks? Different aircraft, control services and the F16 is inherently unstable so you cannot compare them.

Maybe the aliens got inside your head when you were asleep.

Hood

well what i said in my original thread is that i see a short run as an advantage for competing though at 1st look might not look so

the f16 and all planes with side short stick prove it not to mention my personal expereince tweaking my g25 wheel

Then you went off on a flight of fancy spouting rubbish again. You still don't get that the F16 side stick range of movement does not have any effect on control surface movement.

Hood

i get it perfectly i just dont belive it

in fact im simulating an f16 stick in my wheel just now:

total precision and ultrafast movements, the best from both worlds by setting an ultra short run with a very strong force resistance(the more you move it the bigger the force) with hardly no feedback

this f16 maintenance guy of F16 has reminded me the wackos that abound in th net

edit:

man if you believe that any plane stick has 0.6 cm dead zone throw this game to the garbage you have no clue, bs

editÇ:

i have an idea for the gullible:

why dont you set your joystick a huge dead zone and try to fly like that, then tell me, specially you fiord monkey

do you even know what a dead zone is?

stinks like bs then its bs

this looks so bad it makes me look like a beacon of sanity, maybe i should search other shores

edit:

winny i hope you dont take it bad but an f1 wheel doesnt have a 1:1 ratio of lock, for what i know just bikes and quads have this

think you can turn the steering wheel 180º at least but the front wheels never turn 180º

Nope you don't get it or you'd have apologised by now. Let me see if I can make it even more simple for you.

1. The force required to move the stick in any direction to its limit is registered as a control surface input.

2. The physical movement of the stick is not registered as a control surface input. The whole 1/4" of movement is therefore "dead".


I think I'm done with this BS thread and I'll just wait for the next one. I'm afraid you're not a beacon of sanity, more like a low-watt bulb.

Hood

yeah fly with a 6 mm dead zone in the game and tell me how good do you do

after all you know, youre just trolling

i think its me whose done with trolls if you dont understand you CAN NOT fly a plane with a 6mm dead zone is not my problem

hey but if you feel better an f16 maintenance mechanic says so so must be true, but be aware when you meet a nigerian prince offering you a deal

edit:

oh and another lie:

you can fly perfectly in formation with 0.5 cm run in the joystick

im driving now with absolut precision and very good times with 0.5 cm run in my wheel and the smoothness comes from the huge froce RESISTANCE

this one that you as an expert (copy pasting) can tell the plane



http://www.ottenbourg.com/blog/uploa...380cockpit.jpg

if someone still doubts how an f 16 side stick works:

to move it 1 mm you apply 1 kg

to move it 2 mm you apply 2 kg

to move it 3 mm, maximum range you apply 3 kg

just as i set up my wheel now

had anybody heard before of those force controls joystick before? sounds pretty interesting and just what i had found out best

Please give us the details on your flight experience in real aircraft. We are all dying to hear what you have to say!!

--Outlaw.

As always, total and complete crap!

This is just like when you claimed that the gunship targeting systems tracked the gunners eye and not his helmet.

EVERYONE has heard of force sticks. They have been around for 20+ years!!!!! You could not be more ignorant if you tried. And I mean that LITERALLY. The fact that the F-16 was the first aircraft to use a force stick and that it's original zero travel was modified to a very small dead zone is so well known that the level of stupidity required to question it and/or fail to understand it is just staggering. And by staggering I mean that no human technology will ever be able to measure such a level.

All it takes to make a force stick is a wheatstone bridge and 2 strain gauges. Leo Bodnar even has wheatstone bridge circuits you can use to build your own force stick. I built one for IL-2 10 years ago but my home made circuitry had too much noise in it. Bodnar's is very nice. Coincidentally I sourced tiny strain gauges just a couple of weeks ago b/c I've been thinking of giving it another shot with Bodnar's circuits.

Strain gauges are a dime a dozen from www.omega.com and Bodnar's boards are known throughout the sim world.

The fact that you haven't come across one of those 2 sites just proves that you have no interest in learning anything nor of giving the rest of the world the benefit of your, "knowledge".

It simply proves that, AS YOU HAVE POSTED BEFORE, the reason you post on this forum is so that you can reread your asinine ranting later.



--Outlaw.