Hence a special agreement "à la" Team Daedalos...this is not going to happen overnight! We shall see in due time...I do not think it will be even possible to discuss this before the next episode is launched and found successful. Every one knows especially MG how much CLOD is lacking in substance (beyond the present issues which will be solved for sure as they affect game play) ...Many aircraft types are missing, everything related to Sea Lion is missing (like it was not important!) and the French side seems to have been dealt with extreme urgency without time to look for details...I suspect this is exactly what happened for reasons we are not privy to.
I still smirk at looking at trees alongside harbor quays or a nice green covering tracks in railway steam stations!

So let's go back to our little list:

12) Peuplingues: this one is simply catastrophic: its shape is very much elongated yes, but on a SW NE axis, not NW SE!
It is 500 m too far to the north in the deep of a small valley. The real place was actually at the top of a hill with rather steep incline to the SW, and less steep to the NW.
Usable runway length was about 900 m, and on one main axis (with some more leeway on the NE side).
Attached is a 1949 view (the agricultural hangar mentioned did not exist, and the firing butt is unfortunately in the wrong location...this after I got a HD 1943 photo!).
There is nothing which can be done on this one for now...

13) Saint Omer WIZERNES (not WIZENNES). Also known as "Longuenesse"

Location and shape quite OK.
Main axis was 270-090 and only 700 m long, beginning on the western edge of the shape. Another axis 190-010 was available (still is actually) about 750 m long starting at the eastern end of the first one toward the south (making a V).
In this case the eastern part of the shape was indeed used as temporary dispersal: there was (and still is) a horse track at the time there. The south part was not used as dispersal as it was a landing zone.

A large blister hangar is missing at the north side, and many other locations for individual hangars in the NW part of the field. The one at the south are OK, not the one at the north. For those interested refer at the 1943 photo (see details to get it at the end of the message). Attached is a photo of the 50m wide blister workshop hangar of Saint Omer Wizernes (one of the last survivors of the species). I cannot prove it but I believe the hangar (prefabricated) was installed quickly after German take over in 1940.

14) Saint Omer Arques

Location and shape OK. hangers at the SW OK, not so much on the SE. Main dispersal areas were north of the north road. Main axis is OK, but the full airfield was as usual a landing area. A 50m workshop hangar was installed in the Clairmarais forest to the north east (much beyond the railway line) and connected to the field via a long taxiway. This hanagr still survives to this day but not for much longer anymore (it had been moved to an industrial zone near town in 1946. Its original basement is still visible)

15) Saint Omer Clairmarais

Location OK, shape not OK: the (OK) main axis was about 800 m long beginning on the west side. Another axis also 800 m long was at 90 ° from the first one toward the south, beginning at the end of the first one. All the area to the east is and was actually a swamp.
Dispersal area was exclusively made of netted revetments west and south at the edge of the forest. The hangars indicated in the SE are all wrong. A large 40m blister hangar was installed in a farm just north of the field (basement still visible to this day).

16) Saint Inglevert

Location OK but far too large. Main axis 220 040 about OK but only 900 m long usable. All area east of main axis was used as landing area, but the airfield did not extend beyond the main axis to the W. The 130 310 axis never existed (physically impossible on the real airfield)

Two french hangars were at the south of the place, and the dispersal areas were alongside the eastern, southern and northern edge of the field. The airfield would be later extended toward NW, and equipped with a still existing and active paved runway, but only in 1941.

17) Audembert location a bit too much to the south (the road toward Audembert on the east was the limit, and it is slighly covered by the "blotch"). Axis OK in direction and length. Dispersal areas were south of the field and west of the field.
Note: the beginning a large hill ("le Mont de Couple") was just NE and E of the field...you would not believe it by looking at the road network! There was a 30 m blister hangar in the SW corner inside the hamlet of Warcove.

18 ) Guînes (not Guines)

Location OK, main (and unique) axis a bit more north 040 220, on a 1100 m run (yes!) almost to the town at the NE, and to the wood at the SW. dispersal alongside the wood edge and the town limit, alongside the straight street.

19) Marquise West

Location OK, shape all wrong. Actually very elongated and quite narrow on the indicated main axis 020 200. Usable length no more than 900 m beginning at about he crossing point of the two indicated axises to ward the 020.
The other axis never existed (physical impossibility IRL).
Two dispersal areas, both including a 30 m blister hangar (the only type represented in CLOD!) at the W edge (Ledquent village) and E edge (Marquise town). The arrangement was quite complex...and nowhere to be found in CLOD...but you guessed it already.

20) Wissant: quite OK as it is. Dispersal areas north and south edges of the field.

21) Caffiers: utterly wrong from A to Z. Misplaced.

The field dispersal area was actually Caffiers village (including a blister hangar) and along side the railways line on the west. The field only take off direction (actually 010 190) was going upslope by 15 m high in the first 300 m...and then going on on a more flat area for another 700 m. Pilots had to be real careful there...lotsa work to make it real here!

22) Zutkerque (not Zuterque)/ location OK but too large. The axis was more 020 200 on only 700 m beginning at the road covered by the blotch. No hangars whatsoever, a blister hangar to the SW and some netted revetments on the same side. Those indicated are wrong.

In your final list, you have one "s" too much at "Peuplingues", a w instead of v in St Inglevert, "Clairmarrias" instead of "Clairmarais" and the other spelling mistakes already mentioned.
I would like to point out again that your work is an excellent idea, very atmospheric and well executed....I just hope one day I will be able to help you make it still better...
Let me know for the rest of the fields possibly before edition...I can help.

For those interested to have very nice not free of right HD photos of some of these fields in 1943 send me your email address by MP. I can and will not put them in public access.

JVM

Seeing as we are discussing map corrections I would add that ramsgate airfield is totally wrong, it 'never' had a hard pave runway, the airfield was a small civil airport and was comandeered by the RAF during the war and was used as a satelite to manston, the way the game map portrays it it would seem to be a more major airfield than Manston.

some history on it...

http://oldramsgate.blogspot.co.uk/20...ellaneous.html

I never looked in the british airfields as many people are (more) competent there but I guess the correction work will be also heavy on this side later on...hopefully...

thanks JVM
for that infos very interesting indeed
i hope that they release the SDK so some good modders could make very interesting things
Perhaps when next sequel released;)

Question about the grid area. Does this cover the entire map? Only our server uses missions which use the whole map, whereas for instance, ATAG use only the east.

thanks.

Also, worth noting but Gravesend in game is wrong for 1940. The original runway was quite short, being clipped at either end. You can see this with the taxiways on page 6. The runway was extended to the north and sound sometime during midwar.

I'm pretty sure the acceleration on the FM's for the Hurricane (which operated there with No.501) won't get to rotation speed before running out of room on the 1940 runway length, we in No.501 use the whole thing and it's just about enough in the two stage Hurricane :)

Hi. Yes, Farber made the biggest possible battle area. There are small gap on the borders, but this is the best solution.

See post 18 the grid is available as a download. The sim will only allow full grids on the map and as 10km grids seem the best size that is what I used. There is a small gap of around 2-4km around the top and right edge.

Beautiful, just beautiful.

Very nice work indeed! Thanks for your efforts and for sharing your work.

On a side note, I tried loading these onto my iPad and they install and load fine but have found that at page 4 and above it crashes my iBooks and GoodReader apps. :( Doubt it has anything to do with what you have done, just thought I'd mention it in case there actually is something that can be done on your end. Again, excellent work!