The issue still remains:



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You joust with an AI 109 E4 at low level over your field.

You are flying a Hurricane...

The AI has the far better aeroplane...

You do a nice little barrel roll and drop on his six and paste him and he crashes...

You salute him in chat...

And he says...

"Gay game" and even the last AI quits. Game ends up completely dead.

Oh so satisfying.

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Because the real issue is that no one plays that game. Yes, a hand full - but that's not enough. Not enough for cool servers and other gameplay modes other than "oh yeah I studied this crap for ages and now I'm gonna kill you, frustrate you and make sure the game ends up dead.



The core issue is that this sim needs to be more accessible. If SIMs can't come up with ways to pull this off they'll be dead in a few years. And THIS is far from satisfying, even though it's not really your fault. (Although posting this rubbish here is)

Come on insuber there is nothing historical about this it just doesnt work well atm that's a simple fact, the auto prop we have in the e4 is terrible i was doing circles around a guy that had it enabled... he just couldn't keep up with me and since there was no button set he couldn't turn it off until he landed.

I have been using the auto prop since it arrived but until it's fixed I'm back to using manual there is something wrong with it if I can go 50kmh faster without even trying... If I did try I would be around 100kmh faster than someone using the auto prop wtf!!!

@madfish clearly this game is too hard for you so go buy hawx2 that seems like the perfect game for you.

Thx Krupi, it was exactly my point, I just reacted to someone who said that we shouldn't blame the game, but "ourselves" ... LOL!
It's like saying that in 1940 the auto prop pitch was adopted by the silly German engineers to slow down the 109 and match the Hurri performances ... :D

one of the main reasons it was adopted was to ease pilot workload.

i'm sure that somewhere i read an account of a 109 pilot saying that the auto pitch wasn't as good as manual in terms of absolute performance with a good pilot used to manual, i just can't remember where i read it, poss 'Spitfire on my tail'

but how much worse, who knows.

So exactly where and how are you getting 50Kmh more in manual ? Krupi.
What is the max IAS you can get at sea level In AUTO and at Sea Level in Manual and what RPM are you using then ? .... Then tell me how you would achieve 100Kmh more ?

How about a test start at 300Kmh at Sea level Go max ATA (without WEP) and Prop auto, Both RADS Full open... wait till all acceleration stops ...tell us your end IAS
Then repeat it in manual same Max ATA (without WEP) Both Rads full open ... Any RPM you choose.... wait till the acceleration stops ... tell us your end IAS and RPM you used.

So you are ssaying I should have let this guy survive after attacking me?

Excuse me?

Because the autoprop is not working! In many cases you are stuck at 2000RPM or lower in a climb, and finally in the level flyt too, and if you use "notleistung" it is given you even lower RPM, and not rising it for the proper RPM what would be needed now.

As Krupi said, if youre wingy dosent have the manual switch key on his joystick or keyboard, you fly away from him, simple.

I had many situation, where I followed E4 flyers with a E1, where I had to ask "what is going on with youre speed" and the answer was "FULL THROTTLE" lol.

+1...
use manual prop pitch properly, and you leave every 109 which is using auto prop behind you...poor guys who are not aware of that
i prefer the E4 because of its Minengeschoss, but always fly with manual prop pitch in every situation.flying with the E1 before we got the E4 got me used to it anyway.
auto prop is definitely bugged

Auto works fine for me. However, I always take off on manual, and engage auto only at max throttle and max permissible RPM. If I engage it earlier, it simply sticks later.

Excellent idea!

@Krupi: Krupi, old bean, when you're done with that would you mind doing the same with the Spitfires 1 & 1a, and perhaps the two Hurri models as well? Might as well throw in the Spit 11a so we can see how over modelled THAT is. We'll have a bottle of claret (or what's left of it) waiting for you in the mess -- the rest of us will have long headed for bed............