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Sternjaeger II 10-18-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by IamNotDavid (Post 351094)
Because I've seen the records on 1 of the dozen or so "this is how Hitler died" history shows.

you might have seen reports or results, it's a known fact the records were destroyed.

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It's not plausible because this would have been the biggest secret in modern history. It might be possible for 1 or 2 people to keep that secret, but it's not possible for everyone who would have known. The idea that Hitler could get 20+ minions to lie for him even as his closest supporters (Himmler and Goering) are stabbing him in the back is too absurd to even consider. It's one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard.[/QUOTE]

Really? You probably also believe that Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy all by himself :rolleyes:

you're just looking for another trolling occasion, I personally never cared too much for your opinions, but if you have facts that state without the shadow of a doubt that the remains the Russians allegedly found in a crater close to the bunker were indeed those of Hitler and Eva Braun, then feel free to expose them here, otherwise feel free not to share your opinions, especially if they're denigratory of other people's thoughts and generally offensive.

IamNotDavid 10-18-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 351098)
you might have seen reports or results, it's a known fact the records were destroyed.

No, I saw x-rays. So the reports about the records being destroyed were probably exaggerated.

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Really? You probably also believe that Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy all by himself :rolleyes:
Non sequitur. :rolleyes:

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you're just looking for another trolling occasion,
I'm not the one making idiotic and unsupported claims about Hitler escaping from Berlin.

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I personally never cared too much for your opinions, but if you have facts that state without the shadow of a doubt that the remains the Russians allegedly found in a crater close to the bunker were indeed those of Hitler and Eva Braun, then feel free to expose them here, otherwise feel free not to share your opinions, especially if they're denigratory of other people's thoughts and generally offensive.
You're the one making the idiotic claim that Hitler may have survived, it's up to you to provide the evidence. So far you've got NOTHING.

Sternjaeger II 10-18-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Redroach (Post 351095)
Oh the conspiracy theorists! I love them, they are like those small, angry dogs that bark all the time in high pitch :rolleyes:

At least Otto Günsche remained a convinced Nazi until his death. Don't you think he would have loved to spice the whole story a bit up, in order to mystify his Führer? Count Mohnke in, and possibly Heinz Linge.
The absurd thing is: It's not absurd in Absurdistan!

I'm sorry, but the fact that the remains the Russians have are of Hitler are as much as a theory as the one that states he fled to Argentina. There is no forensic evidence that the remains they have are of Adolf Hitler.

Oldschool61 10-18-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 351066)
I noticed that you avoided the fact that Hitler was in the process of creating his own religion.

I understand why, it does not 'fit' into your line of reasoning!

So ignore it and try and change the topic ASAP.. As you did by going on about Martin Luther.. As if I and others were under some false impression that Hitler was the 'first' to blame Jews for their short coming

I'm sure some might fall for it

But thankfully not all

None of what you are stating is true. Perhaps you can site your sources for your claims. Everything I have stated is based on historical facts yet not one of your statements has any credible sources.

Sternjaeger II 10-18-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IamNotDavid (Post 351101)
No, I saw x-rays. So the reports about the records being destroyed were probably exaggerated.

you saw X-Rays of what exactly? And what were they compared with?

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Non sequitur. :rolleyes:
yeah, you proved my point, ta.

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I'm not the one making idiotic and unsupported claims about Hitler escaping from Berlin.

You're the one making the idiotic claim that Hitler may have survived, it's up to you to provide the evidence. So far you've got NOTHING.
I'm not saying that either, the author of the book says so, but before calling other people names, a habit that you have and that is really out of place, you might want to hear other people's opinion, instead of going LALALALALALALALALA!

Is there any evidence that proves the bones the Russians have are indeed of Hitler? No. The skull bit they showed is of a woman between her 20s and 40s, as per forensic evidence of FBI experts, and the alleged jaw bone they have is apparently "too fragile" to show to the world.. if you're happy with that explanation then yes, they have Hitler's remains.

If you have a bit of common sense and think that maybe there's a remote chance the Russians are saying a load of baloney, then you might want to look at what facts are available, none of which in fact proves what the Russians claim.

Did Hitler survive? Go to Argentina? Antartica? The Moon?! I don't know, but I would wait to read what others found out about it before calling them idiots.

Sternjaeger II 10-18-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldschool61 (Post 351103)
None of what you are stating is true. Perhaps you can site your sources for your claims. Everything I have stated is based on historical facts yet not one of your statements has any credible sources.

watch it man, some people here are afraid of historical facts, they think they can beat any knowledge with their blind ignorance, and will start calling you names and offend you just cos they know no better.. :rolleyes:

MD_Titus 10-18-2011 08:34 PM

hang on wait, are people actually saying he died in argentina?

oh i love the internet!

always thought the soviets flushed the cremated remains they had into the moscow sewers anyway.

Sternjaeger II 10-18-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MD_Titus (Post 351113)
hang on wait, are people actually saying he died in argentina?

oh i love the internet!

always thought the soviets flushed the cremated remains they had into the moscow sewers anyway.

there are two authors who allegedly gathered enough evidence and witnessing to write a book on it. Regardless of what you think of it, I still think it would be an interesting read, it's up to you whether to take it as an evidence report or a novel :mrgreen:

IamNotDavid 10-18-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 351108)
you saw X-Rays of what exactly? And what were they compared with?

What the F do you think the x-rays were off? They were from his dentist. They were compared with the teeth the Russians had.

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I'm not saying that either, the author of the book says so, but before calling other people names, a habit that you have and that is really out of place, you might want to hear other people's opinion, instead of going LALALALALALALALALA!
Does he explain how 20+ people would go to their graves lying for Hitler even as his closest supporters stab him in the back? If not, there is no point in listening to him. And I'm not the one going LALALALALALALA here.

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Is there any evidence that proves the bones the Russians have are indeed of Hitler? No. The skull bit they showed is of a woman between her 20s and 40s, as per forensic evidence of FBI experts, and the alleged jaw bone they have is apparently "too fragile" to show to the world.. if you're happy with that explanation then yes, they have Hitler's remains.
Don't know and don't care. If you don't have a plausible explanation why everyone is lying for Hitler, your story is a fraud. That's why Himmler and Goering are such a big problem for you. They were his closest supporters, and they both stabbed him in the back. Do you really think that low level minions would have acted any differently?

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If you have a bit of common sense and think that maybe there's a remote chance the Russians are saying a load of baloney, then you might want to look at what facts are available, none of which in fact proves what the Russians claim.
See above about no plausible justification for lying.

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Did Hitler survive? Go to Argentina? Antartica? The Moon?! I don't know, but I would wait to read what others found out about it before calling them idiots.
See about about no plausible justification for lying.

The main problem for this idiocy is that you can't justify how everyone would lie for Hitler when all their incentive is to stab him in the back (see Himmler et al). Not only is it implausible that everyone he left behind would lie for him, it's idiotic.

IamNotDavid 10-18-2011 08:48 PM

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Non sequitur.

yeah, you proved my point, ta.
All we seem to have proved here is that you don't know what a non sequitur is.


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