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=FI=Scott 08-28-2011 01:14 PM

$8 Million.

What can you say. Rock on Oleg.

Jaws2002 08-28-2011 01:18 PM

I have an idea. How about instead of going on and on with this nonsense, we all go online in Syndicate and shoot and blow up stuf?

It feels a lot better to park a 110 behind a Wellington and pound away until it falls to pieces, or bomb some poor sod warming up his Spitfire, and then run like hell with all his budies chewing on your rudder, than throwing all this mud across the forum.
A lot better terapy for all this anger. You at least do something fun with it.

Skoshi Tiger 08-28-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws2002 (Post 327977)
I have an idea. How about instead of going on and on with this nonsense, we all go online in Syndicate and shoot and blow up stuf?

It feels a lot better to park a 110 behind a Wellington and pound away until it falls to pieces, or bomb some poor sod warming up his Spitfire, and then run like hell with all his budies chewing on your rudder, than throwing all this mud across the forum.
A lot better terapy for all this anger. You at least do something fun with it.

+1
Though its changed to ATAG.

Its hard to see what people are complaining about when your warming up your Merlin and the bombs start going off around you.

Cheers!

pupo162 08-28-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws2002 (Post 327977)
I have an idea. How about instead of going on and on with this nonsense, we all go online in Syndicate and shoot and blow up stuf?

It feels a lot better to park a 110 behind a Wellington and pound away until it falls to pieces, or bomb some poor sod warming up his Spitfire, and then run like hell with all his budies chewing on your rudder, than throwing all this mud across the forum.
A lot better terapy for all this anger. You at least do something fun with it.

god idea. But without sound / or trees. cosntant stutter and other problems, i keep my anger therapy to 1946.

good luck

Ze-Jamz 08-28-2011 02:18 PM

Well I've got sound and no stutters and I think Il2 looks like a POS so il be there.. :)

Igo kyu 08-28-2011 02:20 PM

We'll probably never know, but it does all make a horrible sort of sense.

In software it's a tradition that when someone is fired, they are told to clear their desk and leave the premises immediately. If they did that to Oleg, then they would assume, incorrectly I'm sure, that anything he touched, could be a logic bomb. So, any code on Oleg's work computer would be out of bounds.

Which explains the mess, if Oleg and only Oleg was compiling the final builds, then suddenly all of the work is broken up, nobody has a build of the current software, all there is is what other people were working on at the time, and they are bits of a jigsaw puzzle with the body of the puzzle removed.

I suppose it's possible to do that, and still demand that Oleg appear in public to be working for the firm, why I can't really see, but it could be done.

The guy following on would be in a pickle, having to pick up the pieces and try to remake the jigsaw.

It wouldn't be Oleg's fault (except not finishing quick enough that it didn't happen), it wouldn't be Luthier's fault, it would almost not be the money men's fault, except the paranoia that didn't allow Oleg's work to be included.

It is just a guess, however it looks to me like as plausible an explanation for where we are now as we are going to get. :-?

Baron 08-28-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by furbs (Post 327916)
8 mill and they "couldn't afford the costs of getting real sound samples"


Im sorry, but it sounds like u think 8 million during 7 years is a lot?


Its freeking peanuts in this genre (game development).

Rattlehead 08-28-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron (Post 327993)
Im sorry, but it sounds like u think 8 million during 7 years is a lot?


Its freeking peanuts in this genre (game development).

Let's see...some of these figures include marketing and other costs, but to get an idea:

Crysis back in 2008 cost $22 million
Grand Turismo 5 cost around $60 million
Modern Warfare 2 was nearly $50 million
Halo 3 (development cost only) was $30 million
Grand Theft Auto 4 was around $100 million

Yep, $8 million is really not a lot at all.

Jonk 08-28-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattlehead (Post 328010)
Let's see...some of these figures include marketing and other costs, but to get an idea:

Crysis back in 2008 cost $22 million
Grand Turismo 5 cost around $60 million
Modern Warfare 2 was nearly $50 million
Halo 3 (development cost only) was $30 million
Grand Theft Auto 4 was around $100 million

Yep, $8 million is really not a lot at all.

Not sure comparing the budget of blockbuster games to that of IL2 is really a fair shake..... How about we look at the budget of "Deadliest Catch: Alaskan Storm" and compare that.

Jumo211 08-28-2011 04:26 PM

Oleg saying to Medvedev during CloD exhibiton/presenation :
Dmitry , only two weeks !! be sure ! :lol:

Absolutely priceless picture .

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/a...00b47079f8.jpg

S! HG :lol:


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