some time a go...
 

I liked the article, it was written in an interesting “opinion maker way” style but with what it seems to be a deep feeling for the company 1C and for the genre of simulation.
Some time ago things written in the mentioned article would have been solved with a lightning fast ban...

I guess truth or the absence of other alternative is stubborn and gets through the cracks in the walls and underneath the closed doors. Anyway, in the article is the first time, expressed in a formal way, that someone makes considerations about the possibility that “the market” is not ready to swallow this, Clod I mean…I just love how North Americans talk about “the market”, customers as a community of market makers that will define the fate of a product.
Most things are not like 10 years ago, almost none of them. The market for sure is not the same.

Salutes

You are right... but after 10 years of playing IL2 is quite boring (for me!), so the need of something new is "urgent"! Thus, like many other, I bought Clod, I'm learning the CEM and cross the fingers... but just until the next patch! ;)

We are in your same condition. Some months ago I could never think myself flying with Condor, being a MFS hater, but me and almost all the squad is playing with that great sim and we are enjoying it a lot.

Really in these months our squad is experiencing every kind of sim... and CloD is not one of these (even if we all bought it)

Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi or in english: "Gods may do what cattle may not"

you calling tree a cow? A cow lacks 999999999999999999,999% of the necessary vocabulary to say what tree says, besides the cow cannot compare software products to cars or burgers, nor communicate in an underlying tone that he is genuinely feeling sorely ripped off. :D

I agree the launch of IL-2 CloD has been nothing but FUBAR. Still, I've paid money for it, I've played it 10 times more than Crysis which I bought at a similar price some years ago. Yet crysis is gaming "perfection" in both graphics and gameplay, and IL-2 is so flawed it's bittersweet to play it. It's like "Man, I just have to play some IL-2 CloD! It's so awesome!" Then a few minutes in : "Holy Cow, this is so flawed, it's hard to keep playing" :P So I've been on and off playing it for over 100 hrs. I totally must have alzheimers.

All in all, it's fun playing it, imagining how it will be when it's fixed. Just like you imagine how it's to play, when watching trailers.

Yes it is..and from all accounts was a POS when it first arrived with us, lets not even talk about RoF..

Back on track..

These are your thoughts mate and your welcomed to them what im saying is that just because YOU wont play it, dont enjoy it or have no faith in it doesnt mean a new pilot joining us wont..

there are lots of pilots who purchase this game and love it since day one even in its current form..NO one knows and NO ONE will EVERRR know why it was released and know it to be 100% correct so thats the way it is..we have to live with it

Its really not a FACT that Il2 is better than ClOD or the other way round..WE as in Me and You can presume and have our opinions thats it..

Il2 looks and feels old..Imo hence why I cant go back and play it, blowing nearly every aircraft into tiny pieces with cannon doesnt really do it for me..if its content that rocks your boat then be my guest too

I have one map, pretty much 1 plane i fly and still would take that over an OLD feeling game like Il2 whatever its content and stabilty..

Ive been here moaning and bitching just like everyone else but you know what..?

And as youve already stated...Its Boring, will always be Boring

Its quite simple, each to their own, and that way it will stay but dont presume everyone feels and has the same opinion as you

Dude what are you on about?...you have no guns! ;-)

Now THAT def wouldnt do it for me :-D

This is how.

7.Promise that everything will be fixed and that the game will be great. I know that the team in the past has done a good job trying to update the original IL-2 game, but this game has so many things to update and without good cash flow I don’t know if it will be done.

It is very relevant. It will take much more than motivation to fix this sim. Blinders on won't make it better either.

Again...

Do you realize what state IL2 was when it was released? and other sims that we wont mention?

At what point now do YOU think that this game cannot get fixed when youve had an update from wait for it..the Dev team on what is being worked on..a complete engine overhaul, sound overhaul etc etc etc

I dont know about you, but if my intention was to chuck this game at the wall i wouldnt be winding people up more by continuing to talk trash about updates and posting here....id be long gone

Yes it will take more than motivation to fix this sim, it will take time and hard work, nothing to do with blinkers being on..

Youd have the same BS posts but about other things...porked FM's uber planes..better this and worst that even if this SIM was working 100%, been like that since the beginning of Forums and Sims and its not going to stop now..

No off course i do not!
It's the original meaning of the roman quote, nowadays maybe we would say: "It's not neccesarily the same, when to men do the same!"