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David Hayward 08-05-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 319986)
Some witnesses have noted that they have seen UFO's make sharp 90degree turns at seemingly high speed - how would this be possible?

Because the witness was stoned out of his/her mind?

Robotic Pope 08-05-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 319993)
Because the witness was stoned out of his/her mind?

lol maybe some. But I doubt that is the case for the many aircraft pilots that have witnessed the foo fighters.

David Hayward 08-05-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 320000)
lol maybe some. But I doubt that is the case for the many aircraft pilots that have witnessed the foo fighters.

Tired, sleeping or poor visibility.

bongodriver 08-05-2011 08:34 PM

or just wanted the attention.

Rattlehead 08-05-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by louisv (Post 319946)
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Now...it was totally silent. So that is a three tier stealth technology: Black so difficult to see for ground observers , Radar stealth of course and absolutely silent.

I may have revealed a few American state secrets here, but what the hell, the Chinese have everything already...

Louis

Hey Louis, thanks for sharing.

My experience (at night at 21:30, 11th April 2007*) was of a completely silent, boomerang type shape in the sky clearly visible flying between low-lying clouds. One key difference between my experience and yours was that the craft I saw was an off-white colour, about the same colour as clouds at night.
I only noticed it only by pure blind luck...had I not looked up at the sky at that specific moment and exact spot I would have missed it, but once I saw it, it was impossible to mistake the clearly boomerang shape. The shape was so clearly outlined against the night sky, and it was also easier to discern the shape as it basically flew right overhead.
The shape, combined with the complete lack of any sound of any sort, strongly reminded me of a manta ray gliding through the water, and I have to tell you it was a surreal experience for sure.
I watched it for about 20-30 seconds before it disappeared over the horizon.
It goes without saying that I have wondered many times what exactly it was I saw, and whatever it was, it certainly is nothing that exists officially.

*I remember the date and time so well because it was the day before my brother's birthday, and I had taken a stroll in the garden to get some fresh air just before the TV program Fight Quest was about to start.

ATAG_Dutch 08-05-2011 08:45 PM

Or the money for selling the story.

Patrick Moore and his ilk have watched the skies continually in visible light, radio, infra-red, gamma, microwaves etc for a career and have never reported an alien spacecraft.

The people who see them the most appear to be impoverished South American farmers, who in fact had simply fallen asleep in the sun and got sunburned on one side of their head.

And all of the tripe spinners since Erich Von Daniken and his kind are simply waxing fat on the gullibility of the poor sods who go in for all this 'backward engineered, Roswell, Aliens stole my baby' etc rubbish and they're rubbing their hands with glee all the way to the bank.

Ooh, it makes my blood boil.

Now I'm ranting again.

Skoshi Tiger 08-05-2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CharveL (Post 319785)
The universe is demonstrably finite and expanding, for about 13 - 14 billion years.

Although we are finding an abundance of extra-solar planets, many of which reside in the potentially "habitable" zone, we are also learning that there is an increasingly daunting number of factors that must coincide to form life as we have defined it, and exponentially more still for it to evolve even to our point. Even then, with intelligence and technology do they even want to reach out to anyone else?

Black holes don't do anything that breaks the speed of light.

Our universe may be an expanding bubble amongst other bubble universes but even if we could travel to them we'd likely die instantly if physics principles vary even slightly to those defined in the birth of our own.

Perhaps in lieu of traveling faster than the speed of light (even approaching it slows time and increases mass) these "aliens" could bend space-time to get around but good luck with that. Possible, perhaps. Likely, not a chance.

Now, consider the past say, 10 years pretty much everyone and their grandmother has a cellphone with a camera in it. Consider the past 40-50 years since the UFO first became popularized and made us want to be believers. No definitive photos or video. I can understand it being rare but not one video of a craft landing in a field with a big-eyed lanky grey alien stepping out to take a two-stream piss on their way to some Tatooine canteen.

Conclusion: unless you are religiously attracted to the alien phenomenon by faith and ignore logic and statistical data, one has to conclude that alien visitation to this planet is very unlikely.

To each their own but some people with little money and sense, and a faith in things like destiny and fate, love to spend money on lottery tickets as well.

Do you realise that in an infinite universe there is another CharveL identical to you in every resepect down to the spin of the atoms that just posted the complete opposite? ;)


Cheers!

ATAG_Dutch 08-06-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 320114)
Do you realise that in an infinite universe there is another CharveL identical to you in every resepect down to the spin of the atoms that just posted the complete opposite? ;)

Sorry mate, but it's quarks that have spin.;-)

CharveL 08-06-2011 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 320114)
Do you realise that in an infinite universe there is another CharveL identical to you in every resepect down to the spin of the atoms that just posted the complete opposite? ;)


Cheers!

Luckily we do not live in an infinite universe then.

Skoshi Tiger 08-06-2011 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 320120)
Sorry mate, but it's quarks that have spin.;-)

I was obviously refering to the internal constiuant parts not the atom as a whole. Just as you would refer to an engine spinning clockwise or anti clockwise.

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Originally Posted by CharveL (Post 320153)
Luckily we do not live in an infinite universe then.

Your copy didn't say that either!

Oh! And an exact copy of tree just posted that he loved COD and won a 100 page debate by posting a page long essay that finally proved beyong a measure of a doubt that Cliffs of Dover is the BEST WWII Combat Flight sim ever produced in the Multiverse.

Peace and happyness infused all the members of the community and an infinately long period of bliss enveloped the forum!

Cheers! :)


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