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recoilfx 06-23-2011 12:58 PM

Wow Jimbop, that's a pretty awesome built.

I'd think I'll have to experiment with the magnet spring design some time.

Out of curiosity, how much force do you need to exert to move the stick? Light? Strong?

jimbop 06-23-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by recoilfx (Post 301066)
Wow Jimbop, that's a pretty awesome built.

I'd think I'll have to experiment with the magnet spring design some time.

Out of curiosity, how much force do you need to exert to move the stick? Light? Strong?

Thanks recoilfx. Regarding force, virtually nothing in the centre but more towards the edge. Not as much as you might think though since the u-joint shaft provides a lot of leverage. I think the force could be customized by using different size or strength magnets.

Sokol1 06-23-2011 02:49 PM

Jimbob.

Very good work! Congratulations.

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If you have seen this done elsewhere please let me know since I would like to link to it.
I see similar magnetic centering system is Sukhoi.ru a few weeks, the user say that made at 3 years and work fine.
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=59583

Your method is very easy to implement. I started to build a U-join gimbal (per Julian PDF), but without springs - time to implement your solution. :)

PS- Please, post this in SimHQ - Cockpit Builders forum.

Sokol1

310_Obluda 06-23-2011 09:58 PM

Guys, nice work over here. I like the DIY Sukhoi control grip. Very nice !!

Here something about my way of centering.

I generally like significant forces in controls. therefore solid steel springs are the only option at the moment.

This was my previous setup. I have changed than centerig of ailerons because of friction and to reduce overall size of system

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http://hosting11.imagecross.com/imag...96IMG_9797.JPG Click Imag

Current setup look like this, but also this is only just last step before the next one. I have also hydraulic dampers for rudder. This is feature i generally highly recommend. Inside the dampers are again steel springs, which generates some 15kg of force on full pedall. full aileron is some 5kg, full elevator about 8kg I thing. It is nice to feel respond in controls even on very slight movements.
Long maneuver dogfight is sometimes hard work, but I am no girl and it gives some additional nice feeling and better control of aircraft. Yes, sometimes I have to pull with both hands....prefect :cool:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5340/img5259w.th.jpg


http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/724/img5264q.th.jpg

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/3664/img5394x.th.jpg

If you want some more info, go ahead.
regards,

jimbop 06-23-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 310_Obluda (Post 301251)
...Here something about my way of centering.

I generally like significant forces in controls. therefore solid steel springs are the only option at the moment...

Wow - looks good, 310_Obluda. That's a nice way of transferring the force from aileron and elevator. Definitely the way to go if you want strong force. The magnetic method centers well but it is definitely not strong.

jimbop 06-23-2011 11:41 PM

310_Obluda, could you please explain the hydraulic dampening system you use? I think the spring is within the dampener?

tf_neuro 06-30-2011 11:53 PM

I have the CH Figherstick, which is a good stick but has the usual problem found in most gaming sticks: it's too loose. So I cut a couple of rubber rings, about 25mm thick, off an old bicycle tire tube, rolled the two rings up making two fairly strong 'rubber bands', which I used to reinforce the weak springs hosted in the stick's base.

It works pretty nice but the tube rubberbands dont last forever, they break after a couple of months of heavy usage. No big deal though, it takes 10 minutes to make 2 new springs off the same tube and replace the old ones.(one tube lasts years)

I made a couple of pics to help understand the concept, not really so great artistic value but it may be of help if I didnt explain well enough. Pics Here

jimbop 07-17-2011 01:37 PM

Anyone who has bothered reading this far might be interested in this thread which describes a way to increase the number of inputs (sort of) from a BU0386X card:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=24574

albx 09-08-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 1.JaVA_Platypus (Post 273144)
Does anyone know what I should use to lubricate my joystick (X52 Pro)? I own it for several years and it is now rather squeeky.

sorry, old thread, but to answer you I use a candle wax, tried with silicon grease but after a couple of hours it squeezed again, now is just perfect. If you used any kind of grease, clean it, then apply a candle wax on the metal tube and you'll never have any problem again. ;-)


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