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I'm not saying that I cannot evade those that are on my six otherwise I doubt that I would be playing this game. I am also not saying that I cannot shoot anyone down, its just that I prefer to use the B-17. I do have some skill and can play.

legendary, im effectivly a bomber jock in this game as gilly will testify as ive flown maannnnyyyy times and will tesify to this im no sharpshooter but can hold my own, but when you're against the best of the best boom and zoomers there is lil resistance, BUT would never take any of the bombers/dive bombers in to a dogfight, cta or team battle!!!

make no mistake i can fly fighters reasonably well ............ i like to think anyways :oops:

its called a dogfight for a reason and taking it into cta os TB (team battles) is well ............ in fairness very unsportsman like my only exception would be the IL2 not the M ofc as the IL2 has no rear gunner as were all aware :)

Psml at all the covert "talk"

I'd just like to apologise to everyone as I had never actually played against a B-17 in anything other than Strike. They are an absolute pain in the neck, particularly when they change to the stupid thing seconds before the game launches so you can't even get your rockets out. I will not use it unless every other player agrees that I can.

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Originally Posted by The Legendary Spitfire (Post 215158)

I'd just like to apologise to everyone as I had never actually played against a B-17 in anything other than Strike. They are an absolute pain in the neck, particularly when they change to the stupid thing seconds before the game launches so you can't even get your rockets out. I will not use it unless every other player agrees that I can.

lol no need to ask everytime you wanna use it, used the way and in the theaters it was ment for strike there is no need .............. unless you fancy being bait in an cta it might give you're team a chance to get in and land if you're dealing with 2 or 3 after you :-)

and in the right hands there devastating to fly against if you chat to the guys on you're friends list or ask in here you may develop you're own way of downing the behemoth :) i cant boom and zoom as ive a poor deflection/lead on aircraft, but have my own way of gettin up close and personal :eek::cool:

happy hunting :evil: lol

just thought i would also post my vid in here since it is relavent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qsarex8Exg

ah this debate again, mav's video has it down. A B-17 no mater whose piloting them will always hurt noobs more than a experienced player, these cheese tacticians should realise that when they've chased away all the noobs with their jack-assery; there will be nothing left but the experienced pilots who take special pleasure in chasing bombers out of dogfights and team battles.

jack assery!!!! i thought i was the only one who said that lol awesome

What is the issue with the B-17, (Never Flown One!) I have taken them on in free for all and TDM without any real issue (Arcade and Realistic), I find that if I use the He-162A-2 I can fly in fast and get away before they can destroy me.

wikipedia.org
"German fighter aircraft used the tactic of high-speed strafing passes rather than engaging with individual aircraft to inflict damage with minimum risk."

I also like to attack them from a vertical dive aiming for their top gunner.

Here is a real german tactic.
http://www.combatsim.com/htm/aug99/jpg/triplethreat.jpg

or
http://www.combatsim.com/htm/aug99/j...lercoaster.jpg

or
http://www.combatsim.com/htm/aug99/j...pecker-sin.jpg

for the above, you fly several hundred yards behind them and below them and at several points aim up and fire and then when you get close to them climb and bank to the left or right.

To me it seems as if people are acting like the b-17 is unstoppable.

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Originally Posted by Cryptic Phant0m (Post 216495)

What is the issue with the B-17, (Never Flown One!) I have taken them on in free for all and TDM without any real issue (Arcade and Realistic), I find that if I use the He-162A-2 I can fly in fast and get away before they can destroy me.

wikipedia.org
"German fighter aircraft used the tactic of high-speed strafing passes rather than engaging with individual aircraft to inflict damage with minimum risk."

I also like to attack them from a vertical dive aiming for their top gunner.

Here is a real german tactic.
http://www.combatsim.com/htm/aug99/jpg/triplethreat.jpg

or

http://www.combatsim.com/htm/aug99/j...lercoaster.jpg

or
http://www.combatsim.com/htm/aug99/j...pecker-sin.jpg

for the above, you fly several hundred yards behind them and below them and at several points aim up and fire and then when you get close to them climb

and bank to the left or right.

To me it seems as if people are acting like the b-17 is unstoppable.

Your confusing unstoppable with annoyance!
The point being made is when your in a dogfight or TB it's hard enough to chase, run down and shoot another fighter without being constantly auto gunned by a talenteless idiot cruising around. Same goes for IL10s with their 'William tell' zombie political prisoner rear autogunners. They spoil the game for everyone. Yes they have their place and I'm the first one to fly a B17 but only when it's suitable and it can do what it was designed to do i.e. drop bombs.

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Originally Posted by Gilly (Post 216722)

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