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durangodoug 11-20-2009 08:15 PM

Despite the speed of the plane and its two sets of wings, my biggest issue with the I153 is its guns. I cant remember if the plane has 2 or 3 guns on it, but they seem to be the best set of guns in the air. I've shot up several planes for several minutes with my P47(8x50 cals, but you guys know that). But the first time I flew against a I153 I was destroyed with just a burst of its guns. The cannons somehow find the worst possible spot in your engine and send bullets flying. I couldn't believe it so I kept trying to fight with the guy (I was in the 109G-2 by now) and he would kill me on on head on passes, deflection shots, anything. And I don't mind being shot down, but even with a hurricane on my tail I can last for a few seconds and try to get away, the I153 seemed to blow my engine on the first burst every freakin time. I started to target him specifically since he was tearing up my team, but I would start shooting from far behind to make him start to maneuver, then I'd rip off those wings with my cannons with the deflection shot. So yea in my opinion the I153 is pretty cheap, but lets be honest, a lot of the Russian planes are strangely strong compared to the rest.

My best way to shoot down an I153? get him as he's preoccupied with shooting down your teammate

kozzm0 11-20-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 120934)
Still, the main reason the I-153 turns so tightly it can maintain a high bank angle at a low speed, with help of the added lift.

That's what I said. Monoplanes can't do that cause their corner speed is higher.
They can't turn without descending at airspeeds below around 200kph, not at their maximum turn rate at least.

InfiniteStates 11-20-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 120958)
P.S.: The formula goes for every plane, you'll just have to check if the airspeed and bank angle used can actually be maintained in a constant non-accelerated flight.

Ahh sorry - I couldn't see how lift was factored in, but I'm conditioned to think of velocity as a 2D vector, but obviously here it is 3D. So includes lift.

David603 11-20-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jkerr419 (Post 120975)
Has anyone mentioned forcing them into a Negative G dive?

The I-153 has a great roll rate, so the pilot will just roll it on its back and then follow you down. That tactic will get you some breathing space though, so its worth trying if you need to escape from an I-153 on your tail.

Soviet Ace 11-21-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by durangodoug (Post 120989)
Despite the speed of the plane and its two sets of wings, my biggest issue with the I153 is its guns. I cant remember if the plane has 2 or 3 guns on it, but they seem to be the best set of guns in the air. I've shot up several planes for several minutes with my P47(8x50 cals, but you guys know that). But the first time I flew against a I153 I was destroyed with just a burst of its guns. The cannons somehow find the worst possible spot in your engine and send bullets flying. I couldn't believe it so I kept trying to fight with the guy (I was in the 109G-2 by now) and he would kill me on on head on passes, deflection shots, anything. And I don't mind being shot down, but even with a hurricane on my tail I can last for a few seconds and try to get away, the I153 seemed to blow my engine on the first burst every freakin time. I started to target him specifically since he was tearing up my team, but I would start shooting from far behind to make him start to maneuver, then I'd rip off those wings with my cannons with the deflection shot. So yea in my opinion the I153 is pretty cheap, but lets be honest, a lot of the Russian planes are strangely strong compared to the rest.

My best way to shoot down an I153? get him as he's preoccupied with shooting down your teammate

It has twin MGs.

Robotic Pope 11-21-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 121156)
It has twin MGs.

I thought the I-153 had cannons?

Anyway I don't feel cheap when I use the I-153 in sim mode because I know how easy it is to combat against them. I don't play arcade so I can't comment there.

Ancient Seraph 11-21-2009 05:18 PM

Yep, 2 x 20mm ShVAKs.

dkwookie 11-22-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 120897)
Don't forget that the dog will also probably end up scoring the most goals too lol.

Yeah it would be racking them up like Pele. Jack Russel maps quite well to the 153 :-)

Interesting the comments on the cannon. I mentioned this earlier and it seemed to me like a bug at times. The cannon hit the sweet spot once you get in the groove with that plane. It seems to take out the engine with a short burst first time.

Now MW2 has leeched most players I dont see many people use this plane these days

Shadowcorp 11-22-2009 02:15 AM

true
 
many of the former "Ace" i153 pilots from arcade have dissappeared or even started using different planes, perhaps this forum has had some sort of effect.

haitch40 11-22-2009 10:12 AM

the i153 isnt cheap i dont think
anyway the whole argument on why its so agile ITS NOT JUST SPEED take the hurri and the spit ix the spit ix out turns the hurri and the hurri is slower
i rest my case (forever i mean i said last time i wasnt coming back to this)

also it does have cannons but the most firepower award i think goes to the bf109 g6 or the spit xvi or the spit ix because of its acuracy


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