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Tuco22 11-25-2012 08:45 PM

Very cool, thanks for the update. :grin:

Aviar 11-25-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC99 (Post 483795)
Change is global but it affects each plane in unique way so we actually have to change/add high speed FM parameters for each plane.

In that case.....Salute!

Aviar

RegRag1977 11-25-2012 10:31 PM

TY team Daidalos
 
Hello TD,

Thanks for the update, wow :shock: this again is a lot of work that you did to improve IL2.

Thank you so much guys :grin:!

Fighterace 11-25-2012 11:22 PM

You guys are on a roll...Dont stop, whatever you do ;)

felix_the_fat 11-26-2012 10:22 AM

Beautiful new work on those flight models, TD
- especially increased drag at high mach number.
So -if each plane is affected individually by these changes, will the P40 start to roll to the left* in a high speed dive? - to the extent that I break my rudder pedals, around 500mph??!! I hope so!
[*or is it the right?] You guys are the greatest. I love this sim !

1984 11-26-2012 02:08 PM

interesting, and nice to see "TsAGI - samoletostroenye v SSSR 1917- 1945, part 2, 1994" in sources...

ElAurens 11-26-2012 04:53 PM

Thanks for the new update.

:cool:

Bouma004 11-26-2012 09:31 PM

FW190 Flight model from 4.10.1m to 4.11.1m ?
 
My question is simple.

Will the changes of physic model in 4.12 correct the bug apears in FW190s flight model in 4.11.1m.
this plane is praticaly impossible to slow and land even flaps and gears depolyed !

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my sugestion to correct this in BMW_800_Series EMD:

PropAnglerMinParam 700 (4.11.1m)------->1700(4.10.1m)
PropAnglerMaxParam 2700
PropAnglerAfterburnerParam 2700
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It costs nothing to make the test.

I am on of your greatest fan DT, thanks for all and never stop.

JtD 11-27-2012 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felix_the_fat (Post 483886)
Beautiful new work on those flight models, TD
- especially increased drag at high mach number.
So -if each plane is affected individually by these changes, will the P40 start to roll to the left* in a high speed dive? - to the extent that I break my rudder pedals, around 500mph??!! I hope so!
[*or is it the right?] You guys are the greatest. I love this sim !

No, it just adds Mach related drag for each plane based on the planes properties. The handling issue for the P-40, or handling issues in general, would need to be done within individual flight models, but the code does not support modeling this kind of behavior. New code would be needed, which has not been done.

JtD 11-27-2012 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouma004 (Post 484007)
My question is simple.

Will the changes of physic model in 4.12 correct the bug apears in FW190s flight model in 4.11.1m.
this plane is praticaly impossible to slow and land even flaps and gears depolyed !

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
my sugestion to correct this in BMW_800_Series EMD:

PropAnglerMinParam 700 (4.11.1m)------->1700(4.10.1m)
PropAnglerMaxParam 2700
PropAnglerAfterburnerParam 2700
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is not a bug in the first place, this is the correct behavior. Historically the lower limit of the rpm was around 600, iIrc, so 1700 is way out of line, and if you use historical landing procedures you'll have no problem at all to touch the plane down.


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