Nice! BTW does your Spit/Hurri mirror work? Mine shows only TV noise.

Since the first post of this very thread: "The patch is ready! What we have today is a DX10-only alpha".

Wow did you not even read the release post?

no. now i have the frame only. i think i like the TV noise better :)

Mirrors work with Texture at Original or Medium. Textures High is frame only in Full screen but renders with screen 'Pseudo'.

Patch is working fine for me offline, constant 30 fps in a dogfight. Online I get a crash at 10 minutes :(

Wow...Did you read the last 10 past friday's updates ? Did you ever read : we will finally put out an ALPHA patch that will need to be tested after we did the internal BETA testing for so long and hte glitches we talk to you about and were the reason for so many delays won't be fixed after all...?
ANd once again, remember that all this waiting and "few more weeks" before release was to put out a working patch, with fixed clouds, grass, particules fx and so on...
SO...Now it is suddenly became an incomplete ALPHA ?...Ok then...You are right...I misread and misunderstood all past Bsix updates..My bad...

B6 said that the patch was an alpha. If that wasn't good enough for you, you should not have downloaded it. Period.

If it's an Alpha why does the thread says Beta?
Releasing an Alpha is THE recipe for trouble..i don't understand?

Looks like a fine improvement for me sans the usual items mentioned in the bug thread

See, that's the problem right here. There's too many people on this forum who take too many things for granted and think they are set in stone, to the point where adapting to reality is considered a terminal sin.

Nothing personal, but i've got a very honest question: if doing things one way presents problems, shouldn't something else be tried?

Because by your reasoning, it seems that you are implying something to the effect of "if you can't do it the way you initially said, then don't do it at all and let's keep the bugs". I'm not being ironic here, i'm genuinely curious about your reasoning.

It's like driving on the road and saying "i'll brake here, enter the turn this way, accelerate through the apex up to X km/h, then move on to the next corner, etc, etc".
It works more or less ok when on a race track but not for every day driving, where pedestrians or stray dogs appear in front of you. Then the plan goes out the window and you improvise. ;)

So, my question is very simple: is our final goal to get the sim fixed, or to keep transcripts about who said what and how plans change during the course of patching so that we can argue among ourselves and pass the time? Do we want to fly the sim or the forums?

Personally, i want it fixed. Everything else is secondary to me. I don't care if B6 says the sun is a yellow square today and tomorrow he changes his mind and says it's round but black, as long as they keep experimenting to find the best possible solution to the bugs and making progress here and there i'm fine with it. :grin:

A Alpha patch
 

YES finally we get to test, OK i did end up with a crash, sent in the Dump file, ok my review much better experience the micro shutters when other players are flying around have gotten less, also over citys, its playable, went from the micro shutters and 5 fps to like no shutters but u can hear them if that makes sense just barely, and like 10 - 15 fps over citys and in engagements. the Performance i can see it i can feel it with my rig all i got to say. i would say it is a 50% increase in performance, the fps might be slow but its being fast in the things that count, the engine feels very responsive now to inputs but more experimenting is needed on my part.


Jimmy OUT !!!!

OH yea

amd 8 core
gtx 580 3gig
8 gig ddr3 ram
Dual SSD 120 Sata 3 Raid 0 for OS drive.
Track IR
Saitek X52Pro
24" IPS Dell Monitor

:evil:

I am still waiting to buy the game.:cool: I've got all Il2 series and all...Almost bought COD one year ago...It will be fixed soon...Hum...Almost bought it a month ago...Will be fixed soon...Almost bought it a week ago...Few thing to fix yet...And now, the FAMOUS patch is an ALPHA without the fixed bugs that were responsable for the delayed release of the" patch"...
You guys have the game, paid for it and hope for the best. You have been in this situation for a looong time now. You have been the Beta testers. Now you are ALPHA testers. No working clouds. No dynamic weather, radio,Etc.
I am neither an fanboy nor a whiner. I dont play COD at all !!!
I am just trying to figure out if, and when it will be worth buying COD instead of the sequel. That is all.
And of course, if 1C wants to adopt new ways for resolving issues because the old aren't working, (the ways they were doing things for the past 12 months lets say), it is their prerogative indeed...But it is not a very encouraging sign in terms of developpement progress though...Otherwise, they would keep going on, no ?
I do hope for the best with COD, but I've been following progress for more than 6 years now...ANd it seems far from completion, and far far away from what it was " supposed" to be.
Patience my friend !

A lot of people fighting and complaining in this thread. Perhaps this will be justified after the next patch if those items mentioned are not fixed. After all B6 did mention that these would only take a few more days. Until then why waste your time if the time mentioned is only a few more days?

I don't understand... when BlackSix said this was an alpha patch... why did you think it would not be an alpha patch?

You again ? haha! Always punching someone !
I dont have the game...yet :grin:Still waiting till it is working good for most of us. So: I am no whiner, and no fanboy...yet.
And by the way, I did NOT downloaded the patch. Period.

Do not buy CloD till sequel is out. The CloD engine will be not good enough till then. ETA is 1 - 2 years probably.

This patch is not for you. It is only for those who want to alpha-test and send crash-dumps to 1C as stated in the patch notes. Thus, you have no reason to complain, flame or spam here.

If you think Activision or EA can do a better job please try to persuade them they can make a profitable WWII sim at all. Everyone will be glad if they make such commitment.

Even if they are eager to make it this quick usually it takes longer. There are almost 300 bugs listed on the bugtracker waiting to be fixed.

At least he went out with a bang... I got banned at SimHQ for writing that "I hope everyone feel they're getting their money's worth from their SimHQ membership"... :) Doesn't take much if a mod has a bone to pick with you... :D

OK, now I understand. You're just a troll.

I will play angry birds then.

The devs would be better off only allowing volunteers to access critical development patches and to give feedback with a proviso that the feedback is kept confidential.

I have been testing the patch and SP performance is very much improved regards FPS, stutters, etc. MP is causing frequent CTD problems for me but I continue to try and test and will then send my Log/crash files with as much supporting/relevant info as possible.

I heaven't been flying much MP due to some issues with my water setting after installing patch, and still i CTD'd after a few minutes flying SP. But only in those QMB where other planes where involved and around me.

Flying the crosscountry or any of the other free flight ones seemed to work nicely. Steady 60 FPS. The flow and feel of the game in general seemed much smoother wich was rather nice.

Sad to say this beta is pretty useless to me. Still I cant announce i am ready to takeoff. Still AI dosent follow me when i am lead. If that basics of game dosent work whats the point? Sorry bought game for 50Eur on steam when released and still cant play it.

OK Justme262 I have an nvidia gtx 570 , how would I go about getting fxaa and does it work good ?

I have texture Original, and Full Screen but it shows only a frame now.

I have re-set textures to High and adjusted others and the mirrors are rendering but were not before using textures = 'high'.

It seems that the mirror rendering is affected by the combination of video options rather than just one particular setting.

Patch will not run!!
 

Followed all the instructions originally posted by Blackdog_kt and added the patch as instructed. When starting, the gold reticle comes up, then disappears and the game goes no further. The reticle disappears after several seconds then nothing, just the Windows desktop.

Please help!!

AKA_Goshawk

I have same card and it works fine. Unlike normal AA which smooths (including slightly blurring) the edges of only the 3D objects like cockpit frames, FXAA slightly blurs the whole screen image. The only downside is that text like that in the info windows is blurred but its still readable. FXAA uses less GPU resources than normal AA but as soon as CoD enables AA properly I will go back to AA.

You will need the Nvidia beta driver 301.24, the earlier ones don't include FXAA :-
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/43883

It is a BETA so you use it at your own risk but I have had no problems with it.

Ataros suggested to set Windowed mode in the conf.ini, start the game and then set Full Screen inside the game.

Cheers!

Disregard I just found the info in another post, sorry.
Sam.

Edit conf.ini to start in windowed mode. In game change back to fullscreen, restart game.

Ace of Aces was just fortunate/unfortunate to be first to test. I, like loads of other CloD users have waited patiently for the update, no bitching, just sending crash dump files and adding helpful comments. Having just downloaded the patch and started testing, well that's not true because I haven't got any further than non historical servers. Still the same old problems, CTD's galore and no great improvement in fps. My suspicions were raised when I saw that it was only a 203Mb download, with the problems, I would have expected 10Gb at least. And yes I have deleted the cache. To say I am mightily disappointed would be an understatement and will be joining my other 11 Squadron members who had given up on Cliffs of Dover Eons ago. Before the "Smart Alec's" chirp up that I must a crap computer, let me elaborate.. For over a month now I have been beta testing World of Planes (confidentially agreement forbids me to talk about anything that is not in the public domain). The video's you can watch are as per beta, the Pacific Theater giving you carrier AC landing and take offs, float planes, manic air duels and flak you can walk on. I am not promoting WoP, merely pointing out that with a mid range computer I have great graphics, good fps and no CTD's. The only way I can see Clod going is to give CloD users a free upgrade to the sequel and ditch this flawed Sim..

OOppsy.

Not nice is it, karma for all those posts you reported. :grin::grin:

This is weird. Yesterday I had CTD every 10 minutes, 27 average fps and very heavy stutters every time.

I did nothing, change nothing, reinstalled nothing...

Today I have been flying the same situation for two hours without CTD, 38 fps average and no sttuter at all.


Will I be lucky tomorrow too?
Someone with the same experience?

Same here Ailantd, I'm getting 60 fps on med settings, model detail and textures high, shadows and grass off. It will crash after 20 min, sometimes 5, sometimes like yesterday I flew over an hour, I sent my log and crash files

Went from 22 minutes to a hour with these Changes no Crash
 

~S~ Gents, I think I may have found a Solution for my PC with the new Patch, I have only been able to Fly for 20 minutes with out a Launcher Crash. This Morning I flew for a hour and had to land because of Fuel. Only one Test Was In ATAG server with 15 to 30 Players.

(My System: Win7 Home Premium , EVGA 580 3 gig mem.,I7 920 Overclocked to 3.6, 16 gig memory.Changes to my system outside of game. Turned HYPER THREADING Off, Turned off EVGA PresionX off , running in game FPS system, Rolled back to Nvidia Driver 296.10.)

In Game Video setting
Resoltion 1920x1080 native Anti-aliasing : 8X
Full Screen On Anti-Eplesy : Off
Detail Level : Custom SSAO : Off
Vsync: Off
Model Detail: High Damage Detail: High
Building Detail: Very High Building Amount: High
Land Detail: High Land Shading: High
Forest: High Grass: On
Visual Effects: High Shadows: On
Texture Quality: Original Roads: On

Nvidia Control Panel settings
Anisotropic Filtering: Application Controlled
Antialiasing Gama: Global setting
Antiialiasing Mode: Enhance The Application
Antialiasing Setting: 8X CSAA
Antialiasing Transparency: Off
Cuda Gpu : Global Setting ( All )
Maximum Pre-Rendered Frames : 3
Muli-Display: Single Dispay Performance Mode
Power Management Mode : Global (Adaptive )
Texture Filtering: anisotropic sample off
Texture Filtering Negative Load Bias: Allow
Texture Filtering Quality: Quality
Texture Filtering Trilinear Optimization : On
Thread Optimization: Global Auto
Triple Buffering : On
Texture Filtering , Anisotropic Filter : OFF
Vertical Sync: Force Off

Ditto for me ....in MP...can sit on ground with eng running for ages. Takeoff and get a Launcher.exe Crash after 10mins. Yesterday i flew low nav from Mansgate to London with no crash...smooth at 1000ft. Landed and overan the airstrip as plane seems tobe frictionless on landing. Respawned ...then CTD within 10mins. Logs sent ....

I think some people need to realize or remind themselves the sim cost about 60 bux . It isn't like you spent thousands of dollars here . Mine works quite well now , although I play the offline battles . I've spent much more on other games and I don't even play them at all . Battlefield 3 was interesting for a day or two but now , there it sits , glitch free , and collecting dust . Where else are you going to find a sim this detailed ? What other ww2 sim have you ever seen where the planes belch fire and smoke out the misfiring coughing exhaust? Just give it time and quit freakin out over 50 $ . It really isn't that much money these days .

I've spend thousands of dollars, as you say, for purely for this sim to run... And I am very confident to say that there are others like me, IL-2 fans over there upgrading the junk to get this thing to run...

I'm not sure whether this should be here or the bug section, but I cannot start the low-level even dogfight in quick missions. I get a Hook:{_FuelTank04} not found error.
This has only happened since the patch, and I have cleared the cache but to no effect.

+1

Well, they didn't delete my profile, just closed off the CoD Extended Discussions forum to me... - However, I can read that forum when I'm not logged in, so I'll stay logged out and just be a lurker at SimHQ from now on.

If you've spent 2000+ dollars on hardware you should have a comp that could run it well. Online dogfighting with CoD is the best fun I've ever had with a flight sim.

Yea +1 If it didnt crash all the time... :(

This comment is frustrating for me, I wish I could help because I dont get any CTDs, least none yet... I was online dogfighting for about 2 hours last night, even when I was busy with the baby I left the game connected and the plane idling on the ground just to see if it would crash.

DO you use anything like Game Booster? I still use it, dont know if it helps, but I have been afraid not to use it lol.

Where are you guys playing online? I can't seem to find any other players online other than 1 or 2 in game ..

ATAG Server

Hmm interesting to see if game booster is all we need. I dont use atm.

I dont want to get your hopes up, I just wanted to share what I was doing, sucks that so many people are having troubles and its really been a smooth update for me. SO dont get mad at me if it doesnt help :)

Perhaps it's map related?

On Sunday on ATAG i had no crash (3+ hrs) but today on Repka #3 two crashes ~10-20min apart.

Do you remember the maps? I would like to try the one you crashed on in case its one I havent played on?

I use game booster too and I don't crash...

The witch hunt continues...

The plot thickens lol...

ATAG Axis vs. allies is the place to be for full real. I wonder, do they still have a server up for the pre-patch sim? Or can both sim versions co-exist in a server? - I guess not...

Because of continual trolling.

Solution:
DON'T USE WINZIP. Try with 7Zip or WinRAR. Winzip doesn't correctly unzip the patch, although you get no error during the operation.

I've posted this on this thread and sent a message to blackSix so they can put this advise right in the first post, but I guess they didn't.

Hi Frey,

ATAG Server #2 is still set up for the pre-patch sim. It's not as busy as Server #1 Axis vs Allies but it's got some pretty wild missions in it designed by hc_wolf. We use #2 as an "experimental - mission design" server, so anyone enters at their own risk! LOL

BTW #2 is likewise set as "Full Realism".

No Ifs and Buts, I did it - as simple as that. The thing runs decently on my rig now. That's not the problem. The issue is the code of the CloD is so poorly done, not any respectable software house should ever, and I mean Ever, release such an crap to the public.

WinZip will work if you right click on the .rar. and hit properties, select Unblock and all the files will be extracted properly. Not sure why Winzip blocks all the files from extracting.

If it's working good for you , what the problem is? No one else is working on a new WW2 Sim , so this is the only option avaliable . World of planes will be total arcade crapola .This Sim will improve with time . Have patience grasshoppa .

this is late, been travelling . . .

thanks for the devs to release a alpha beta patch and allowing us to help them make the game better.

yeah yeah the devs should have not released and beta it aside, the reality of it all is we're at the state now.

only thing is help or not. And thanks to the devs for allowing us to help the game.

Then we could say, hey, we had something to do with it when the game is a working legend like 1946 . . .

i did everything, still not working for me:(

Which windows OS are you using? Might be an idea to post your system specs in case there is a problem with them using this alpha patch.

i5 2500k
asus saberthot
evga gtx 560 ssc
16gb ram
windows 7 64bit
logitech attack3

Did it, tried it, still rubbish, over and out.

Did it, tried it, still rubbish, over and out.

Wait 'till you try World of Planes, you might change your mind..

Count yourselves lucky if you can get onto historical servers. I can't since 3 updates back. I had my suspicions about the update when I saw it was 203Mb. With the problems CloD has I was looking for 10Gb+ download..

Sorry Sith

I'm so peed off with this Sim, I'm usually a meek and mild guy but this latest "update" is the straw that finally broke my back!!

Salute

Vonte

Taking a straw pole of all the posts, it would appear that the people with 32 Bit OS's (me) are the main complainants!

You do know, that only the engine was rewritten, right? You do know, that the engine only exists in code, right? You do know, that code is just plain text, right?

203MB of plain text as code... hmm... now it make sense...

Code is written in text format. The only reason for it to be a massive file would be textures or images for the engine and they said the engine would look the same. Or sound, which probably makes up a lot of the 200MB download.

freaking out over 50$? i dont, but i upgraded my whole comp just for COD right before it came out, that was a few hundred €, and im a student and dont swim in money, really if i had known i would have waited 2 years and gotten a much better comp for the same price or the one i have now for much less money. I dont play any other games than Il2 (and if it would run COD) so the upgrade was TOTALLY useless. Pls dont forget that you cant judge other people by comparing to yourself, for you certain things might be no problem, but they might be for others.

lol

I upgraded my TV, Sound system and DVD player all for when the phantom menace came out.

Dam jar jar binks

This testing was offline in single player without steam? Multiplayer is still the worst effected by crashes. It actually seems more unstable now online than before.

What kind of testing was this? Just offline, single player? With Steam?



I saw this at Sukhoi.ru

http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...26prmd%3Dimvns

This.

And may I add - please save your thousand dollar upgrades whines for yourself. No guilt from 1C is in that.

^ +1

Than you made bad upgrade.I also upgraded PC before CloD came out and didn't have performance problems, and I was wondering, will the gtx560 Ti
play Clod well.
Year ago you could buy AMD x4 for 100 euro, put it on 4 GHz and play w/o a problem.My friend did that and with plain 560(non Ti) has good performance.
Similar prices are today i5 procesors are only bit cheaper, FX-4100 is 100 euro
and unfortunatly performs slower in games then phenoms or thubans.
Middle class graphic cards prices didn't fall down much also.

easy answer YES!

i've got one and are with my system getting between 45 en 78 fps.
Using ingame AA wich now workes cost me 20 fps using Nvidia AA doesnt seem to cost anything.
In game AA is slightly better as the on screen text is not antialiast.
In both cases the game is smooth. wich is the important thing.
I dont give a !@#$% about FPS if the game is stuttering or freezing.
I do get more CMD's with the patch first i played for three hours straight without one now i'm getting them every 20 min.

I'd like to remark about the ctd's mentioned in this thread: Most of those are probably actually Windows 7 errors and can sometimes be recognized by "The Graphics Driver has stopped working and was restarted".
I have this error sometimes 3 to 4 times shortly after starting CoD, forcing me each time to restart the game, when i start it then again, i can play for hours.
The same happens with ArmA 2, but not that often and not that regularily.

I had that problem robtek, I fixed it by reinstalling the graphics drivers from disk then auto updating via steam... You have to install the full suite though. Do not install the CCC.

ASUS EAH 6850CU

I think CCC and AMD Vision Engine Center were conflicting... but I really have no idea.

WOW!! Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.
:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:
Many thanks!!!!!
Did I mention, thanks? Your suggestion took care of the problem, Joker.If you happen by the Doghouse for the AKA sometime, the drinks are on me!!
http://www.akawardogs.net/

I sure appreciate your help.

AKA_Goshawk

Robotk mine are all Launcher.exe crashes othing to do with the videodriver would be nice if it was tho :)

Uhhhmmmm, NO!

Look what the developer of World of Planes says here:
http://www.simhq.com/_air14/air_522a.html

"Erik: Will pilots be able to experience the fight from inside a cockpit? If so, will the gauges be accurate?

Anton: The game will feature the third-person camera view as the main one. Besides, players will be able to switch to a sniper mode that will in some way resemble the cockpit view, but it will be used to increase the accuracy of fire, not just to show how operating of the plane looks like from inside of the cabin. Although there won’t be a cockpit view, the user interface (UI) will have a universal set of essential cockpit flight instruments: a combined display for horizon and turn indicators, airspeed indicator, radio and barometric altimeter, etc"

..... - So, no real cockpit, but instead they have "SNIPER MODE"??

- "That will in some way resemble the cockpit view, but it will be used to increase the accuracy of fire, not just to show how operating of the plane looks like from inside of the cabin."

- Wauw, Sniper mode instead of that boring old cockpit view.... :D

I will stick with CoD, thanks...

Thats the dev of "world of WAR Planes" Not World of planes.
And if Clod stays like it is currently almost everyone will leave it in the shelve and plan World of planes once it comes out. Sadly.

Winger

Well, I for one have not bought the game, and will not buy the game until it works correctly. I've waited countless years since IL2, I suppose I can just keep on waiting. In fact, I suggest they re-release the game when it is really finished to give it a possibility of getting some kind of good review. Like a "Cliffs of Dover, 2012? Edition". Well I was excited about the patch, I still am holding out hope though.

Don't mix up these two different games:


- wargaming.net World of Warplanes (that's just for kiddys)

- Gaijin World of Planes from the devs of Wings of Prey (might become an alternative to CloD)

Back OT! Ok, the patch made a small but noticeable difference to my mid-level rig; however, combined with the 'rename the intro video' fix that was also mentioned, I have an almost playable CoD!!

I have maxed out my resolution to 1920x1020 with most settings to high and it runs soooooooo much smoother than before. I am getting quite a few ctds now where I had none before, but heyho, can't have everything!

Keep up the good work devs, we are (slowly) getting there....

thanks for the great work!!!

Ah, sorry for the mix-up. Is the Gaijin sim any better tho?

take note 103 playable A/C ...
http://warthunder.ru/en/game/planes/...ll/title/list/
and even more are underway (so it's far not a final list and new models of planes will be added even during the beta)

Yeah lots of planes and pretty graphics but the damage model is super basic.Unless they shot the videos using footage from last year or something else, and have decided to not show the new damage model, I can assure you that it hasn't changed at all from WOP.Saying that it might be an alternative is a bit over the top in my opinion.I will be glad if the prove me wrong, though I dont think that is going to happen.I watched most of the videos they have published and all the planes seem to go down in the same old ball of flame or with one of the wings ripped off.

game patched freezes over channel

All in all I have more CTD's than before.

Cheers!

Before I had CTDs online after a while (most of you are familiar with that) and offline between missions, so that was no big deal for me.

Now I get clearly more CTDs, also offline during a mission when switching exterior views (maybe too fast? so the game cant handle the sudden amount? I dunno :D )
but the fps are also much more stable.
If the devs are able to crush all causes for CTDs, get the rest of the currently switched off graphics back, crush the current graphic bugs I am pretty happy with this patch ;)

good performace with alfa patch (for me) with Hd5850 CFX, 8gb DDR2, X4 955 and sataII 7500rpm hard disk.
Now I have 59fps (edit : average on sea, not over ground. On London I have 40fps of average more of less)...no bad at 1920x1200 with high quality and AA 2x.

Hows your fps with other planes in the immediate vicinity? My fps is good until other humans are nearby (i only fly online, no single player here) then it drops like a rock to near single digits. One minute 25-40+ fps then a couple planes enter the area and drop to 8-14 fps. This is much worse over ground at under 1K but becomes unplayable while others are close by.

I dont know why a few human controlled planes can cause such a drop in fps?