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dazz1971 09-20-2009 08:24 PM

if someone one the other team is using the jet bomber why not use the
he-162a2
afterall that was what the germans were designing it for fast bomber intercepter ??
a few times during strike games i have been told NO jets but the other team have b17 and can end all your teams tickets in a very short time if you dont have a b17 on your team how you supposed to stand a chance ???

also what has put me off strike games is that most of the time the guys on my team all went fighters and soon as the games started they all fly off to grab as kill im then left on my own as the only bomber by the time i get to the targets (if i make it that far) the other teams fighters are buzzing me and 9 times out of 10 i dont even get to drop payload before spiraling to earth in a ball of flames :-x

for me the arado is a valid choice for strike if not then whats the purpose of having it in the game i mean its not like anyone is going to choose it fo a dog fight

Gazz6666 09-20-2009 08:57 PM

Tried the Arado, and I have one word for it;

Crap

It's terrible. Always choose the Ju-87, He-111 etc over it

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Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 103176)
Well, there's always gonna be quitters.. the curse of being good is that not everyone appreciates it, especially the enemy ;)

Yeah, well said.

On the note of quitters, I was in CTA a moment ago and the host left because his team was losing (:@). I'm now working on 100 kills in the 109 series, so do I lose the kills for that game?

PantherAttack2 09-20-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazz6666 (Post 103211)
Tried the Arado, and I have one word for it;

Crap

It's terrible. Always choose the Ju-87, He-111 etc over it

Tried the Arado, and I have one word for it;

Great

It's awesome. The only thing I don't like about it is that it is so cheap!

Gazz6666 09-20-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PantherAttack2 (Post 103217)
Tried the Arado, and I have one word for it;

Great

It's awesome. The only thing I don't like about it is that it is so cheap!

I'll tell you the biggest let down for me; lack of guns!

The Arado had rear-firing guns in reality. That's what the sticky-up thingy is for - a periscope to aim them with!

Ancient Seraph 09-20-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 103203)
if someone one the other team is using the jet bomber why not use the
he-162a2
afterall that was what the germans were designing it for fast bomber intercepter ??
a few times during strike games i have been told NO jets but the other team have b17 and can end all your teams tickets in a very short time if you dont have a b17 on your team how you supposed to stand a chance ???

also what has put me off strike games is that most of the time the guys on my team all went fighters and soon as the games started they all fly off to grab as kill im then left on my own as the only bomber by the time i get to the targets (if i make it that far) the other teams fighters are buzzing me and 9 times out of 10 i dont even get to drop payload before spiraling to earth in a ball of flames :-x

for me the arado is a valid choice for strike if not then whats the purpose of having it in the game i mean its not like anyone is going to choose it fo a dog fight

About the B17's: true. They're overpowered, and I hope they're a bit more accessible when the patch comes which enables SP unlocks. The B17 however can still be taken down decently, despite it's gunners, whereas the Agado can only be taken down with other jets, which leads to games where only jets will be used. Not my idea of a nice IL2 game. I have no idea why the designers added the jets, since they're in a whole other category from the piston planes. If I wanna fly jets I'll play Ace Combat. Somehow though, people fail to understand how jets are extremely game-deteriorating.

PantherAttack2 09-20-2009 09:25 PM

I can't argue with that, but even the lack of guns is made up with the speed.

PantherAttack2 09-20-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 103221)
I have no idea why the designers added the jets, since they're in a whole other category from the piston planes.

Because jets were used in late WW2, that's why.

Ancient Seraph 09-20-2009 09:31 PM

So was the nuclear bomb, they didn't add that. And the nukes also actually played a significant role in the war, unlike the jets.

PantherAttack2 09-20-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 103225)
So was the nuclear bomb, they didn't add that. And the nukes also actually played a significant role in the war, unlike the jets.

Well, as far as I know, the only nuclear bomb dropped was in Japan, so why would they add that?

MorgothNL 09-20-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 103225)
So was the nuclear bomb, they didn't add that. And the nukes also actually played a significant role in the war, unlike the jets.

the nuke would be the pacific theater ;), and thats not in this game.

Anyways, if every one has the B-17, there is no need to take another bomber (except for the arado).
But if not every one has it, it isnt fair..

I dont see a real way of this working out :(


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