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Tavingon 12-23-2011 08:01 PM

Thats great stuff, imagine sliding that hurricane cockpit back and reaching for that hard hitting webley

ElAurens 12-23-2011 10:05 PM

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2...eyfosbery1.jpg
Needs more Webley-Fosbery

The preferred sidearm of the RNAS.


OH, and my modern manufactured 1911 Springfield GI Mil Spec is quite accurate. The problem with a lot of the original G.I. issue pistols is that they are very very old, their heat treatment was non-existent and the are quite loose at this point.

I'm still jealous though. I'd love to have an original government issue Colt. But the prices are simply too dear these days. Even standard Webleys are going out of sight.

Kongo-Otto 12-24-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 371338)
The Bf109 had a rack in the tail for a K98. When and if they were issued I dont know.

AFAIK those only were issued and fitted with the F-2/Trop, F-4/Trop and the G-2trop, G-4trop and the G-6trop.

MB_Avro_UK 12-24-2011 11:36 PM

I'm almost certain that RAF bomber crews were not issued with a hand gun. And maybe it was the same for LW bomber crews?

And sailors weren't issued with hand guns.

Kongo-Otto 12-26-2011 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK (Post 373130)
And sailors weren't issued with hand guns.

Well yes and no, there was always a certain amount of Rifles and/or Pistols on board of a ship, for Guard Duties etc.

For example this one was issued to the Royal Navy:
Webley & Scott Pistol Self-Loading .455 Mk.I N (N=Naval)
http://forum.valka.cz/files/webley__..._n__navy__.jpg
these pistols were used by the Royal Navy during WW1 and WW2, as well as being issued in small numbers to the Royal Flying Corps and Royal Horse Artillery during WW1. The RN discontinued their use shortly after the end of WWII.
There was also a Version Webley & Scott Pistol Self-Loading .455 Mk.I D(D= Dominion) which was issued to the Royal Australian Navy in about 500 pieces.
The Model D is even rarer as an collectors item then the N Version.

Also issued to the Royal Navy, Royal Flying Corps and the Royal Horse Artillery was an US Produced Model of the Colt M1911 in .455 Webley
The remainig guns were transfered after WW1 to the Royal Air Force which used them in limited Numbers until the end of WW2.
http://operatorchan.org/k/arch/src/k...to%20Briti.jpg

And here is a example of an RAF issued web belt shoulder holster for an Webley Service Revolver.
Its stamps are marked AM which stands for Air Minstery
http://www.abload.de/img/gunwebbing3largesy22l.jpg

ElAurens 12-26-2011 03:19 AM

I'd dearly love to find an AM marked holster for my 1939 Enfield No. 2 Mk.1 revolver.

Skoshi Tiger 12-26-2011 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto (Post 373360)
For example this one was issued to the Royal Navy:
Webley & Scott Pistol Self-Loading .455 Mk.I N (N=Naval)
http://forum.valka.cz/files/webley__..._n__navy__.jpg

I'm sure I seen that pistol being used by International Rescue in the Thunderbirds series????

Richie 12-28-2011 07:26 PM

I've read both Erich Hartmann's and Helmut Lipfert's book and I can't remember Hartmann carrying a gun but I think I remember Lipfert being lost and having to land on a field or road and asking some civilians where he was with his pistol drawn.

Sokol1 01-17-2012 01:17 AM

http://www.fieldandstream.com/files/...Zero1911_2.jpg
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/...shot-1911-ever
http://www.airforce-magazine.com/Mag...0796valor.aspx

;)

Sokol1

jayrc 01-17-2012 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 374200)
I've read both Erich Hartmann's and Helmut Lipfert's book and I can't remember Hartmann carrying a gun but I think I remember Lipfert being lost and having to land on a field or road and asking some civilians where he was with his pistol drawn.

I know Hartmann would not accept his medals from Hitler unless he could wear his pistol


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