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Oldschool61 11-03-2011 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 357534)
I'm sorry, but Apple is better, and my opinion is based on 15 years of use of both, ranging on a wide set of applications and hardware.

Without even going into the whole OS debate, there is not one Windows based PC brand (i.e. Dell, VAIO etc..) which can deliver quality products superior to Apple one. Just to give you an example, I'm typing this thing from a Macbook Air, by far the most revolutionary laptop ever, and when I see people waving their chunky Alienware or Acer or Vaio laptops, all I can think of is "why, when you can have one of this light, thin, dependable and performing macbooks?" :confused:

The mp3 connectivity as you call it was just a mere example, and feel free to tell me about any 3d specialised hardware and software, I'm not an expert but neither totally ignorant on the subject. Even in that field, you won't find a machine that has such quality, performance and above all moddability and longevity than a Mac Pro.
I thought Jobs died a week or so??

Jumpy 11-03-2011 12:55 PM
Choke! Gasp!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 357198)
Frankly, I'd rather live in a future designed by Raaaid than one designed by Microsoft... :-P
:grin::grin:That comment caused me to laugh so hard I nearly choked!
I totally agree, by the way. Just an advertisement for young people who microsoft hope want to be cool. You know, the travel, business meetings, fashion, nice clothes etc. I admit, though that perhaps I am to old to understand the modern need to have instant access to gigabytes of useless information in one's hand. If I want a coffee I will follow my nose or ask someone. Much cheaper and you don't have to pay by the month.:grin:

TomcatViP 11-03-2011 03:21 PM
+1:!:

swiss 11-03-2011 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 357670)
that's another valid point man: it is fair to assume that devs have to put up with OSs from the same company which are never compatible, having to put extra efforts to deliver something which works on XP, Vista and 7.
From 1999 to 2008 we worked on W2000 with an inhouse developed ERP, never had any problems. This software was developed for W95, the migration was a walk in park and it's even confirmed to work on XP too.
Another cool thing about MS is: I can play games like wing- or strikecommander on a W7 machine if I want to, I might need an additional progi(dosbox), yet I can.
I'm talking about 20(!) years old software.
Downward compatibility was never a real issue, at least not for mainstream progis.
The other way around is more tricky though. The question is: Why should you put any effort in making software compatible to an obsolete OS?
Can macs do do that?

Anyway, all those arguments against MS actually lack examples. I would like to hear what kind of windows-crap trouble you ran into.
Like:
1.program
2.OS
3.description of problem

AKA_Tenn 11-03-2011 11:59 PM
I'd rather live in a future where the world still has forests, and the farmer is the most important person alive, where technology is for wasting time, because technology doesn't grow food, supply our planet with oxygen and filter out CO2, or pick up our garbage, list goes on....

machines don't get sick because of polution, don't have to pay to eat...
its like rich people want a way to spend less, so they invent machines that cost far less to operate than a person, so now the honest person has no money, and can't buy anything from the rich person, so now the rich person isn't getting any income anyway... one big cause and effect loop

AndyJWest 11-04-2011 02:57 AM
Quote:
its like rich people want a way to spend less, so they invent machines that cost far less to operate than a person, so now the honest person has no money, and can't buy anything from the rich person, so now the rich person isn't getting any income anyway... one big cause and effect loop
Yes, an old conundrum. This bloke wrote a book on the subject. He seemed optimistic that there was a solution...

raaaid 11-04-2011 10:31 AM
im pretty sure the future will be a technological 1800s like

is this or no future at all

BaronBonBaron 11-05-2011 01:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jg52krupi (Post 357429)
apple - taking away user options for the sake of simplicity since 1977.

Apple - making high quality goods from old components and selling them at ludicrous prices.

Steve jobs - visionary not really, he was a business man.
+100

BaronBonBaron 11-05-2011 02:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 357390)
All of this pays you back with an incredible longevity.
:confused: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 357390)
prime quality machine made with quality components and performing to unmatched levels.
Actually Macs are made out of basically the same hardware as PCs. Using components from Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Gigabit, ect. Store bought Macs and PCs are pretty much the same on the inside. The Real difference is the OS, the case, and how it looks on the outside.
Oh, and the price tag. ;)

Example.
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

MacBookPro 15 inch.
2.2GHz Intel Core i7
500GB HDD
AMD Radeon HD 6750M
15.4-inch LED Screen
Price. $1,800


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834200355

DELL Alienware M17x R3
2.20GHz Intel Core i7
750GB HDD
AMD Radeon HD 6870M
17.3 Screen
Price. $1,650

See, the PC has equivalent or better hardware for a better price. :-P

Sternjaeger II 11-05-2011 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swiss (Post 357805)
From 1999 to 2008 we worked on W2000 with an inhouse developed ERP, never had any problems. This software was developed for W95, the migration was a walk in park and it's even confirmed to work on XP too.
Another cool thing about MS is: I can play games like wing- or strikecommander on a W7 machine if I want to, I might need an additional progi(dosbox), yet I can.
I'm talking about 20(!) years old software.
Downward compatibility was never a real issue, at least not for mainstream progis.
The other way around is more tricky though. The question is: Why should you put any effort in making software compatible to an obsolete OS?
Can macs do do that?

Anyway, all those arguments against MS actually lack examples. I would like to hear what kind of windows-crap trouble you ran into.
Like:
1.program
2.OS
3.description of problem
dude, I work in an office with 2500 employees, most of them work on PCs, and the service ticket list in the IT dept at the moment has an estimated 3 weeks wait. The problem is not the machines only, but the damage users cause to them. In offices where Macs have been introduced the request for assistance has dropped of a shocking 65%! If that isn't enough, then I dunno what you need as further evidence.


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