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Squid_DK 03-19-2011 09:16 AM

I guess I'm alone, I liked Speedy D in Pacific Fighters and I always loved steep dives, so I'm on the JU-87 & -88 Nothing like divebombing and standing om the brakes!

Staffan

ATAG_Bliss 03-19-2011 10:25 AM

All those interested in a squad should check us out. We are international with pilots from all over the world. We will have 1 if not several Cliffs of Dover MP servers up. Our main goal is having fun, with squad members ranging from very experienced virtual fliers to those brand new to simming.

We also have a new website: www.SyndicateSquadron.com

Come drop a line ;)

desmodronic 03-19-2011 11:03 AM

109E for me. If it is anything like the IL2 version I'll be right at home.

Fansadox 03-19-2011 11:20 AM

Bf110 since it has magic all over it

zakkandrachoff 03-19-2011 05:13 PM

http://airalex.homestead.com/files/he162painting.jpg

:eek:

Flying Pencil 03-21-2011 05:48 PM

Do-17z/215!!!1!1one!

Soon as it's flyable. ;)

Friendly_flyer 03-21-2011 09:00 PM

I've always had a soft spots for the underdog. I'll be restricted to offline for a while (house full of toddlers, won't be able to play a full mission through), so I plan to take it slow and do the Tigermoth and Gladiator for training, then settle into a Hurricane. In IL2 I prefer the Hurricane over the Spitfire. I guess I'm too old and slow to draw full benefit from the extra manoeuvrability, but the stability of the old Hurribird is very much appreciated. For the German side I'm with the 110 crowd, though released from their historical tactical limitations I think they are may become fearful weapons.

Having done that, I think I'll go fully masochistic and go for the Blenheim...

Blackdog_kt 03-21-2011 09:29 PM

That's a nice progression you got there Friendly_Flyer. I think i'll fly the twin engined birds a lot.

I like the early 109s as a fighter option but the lack of fuel is a concern. What i don't know about is the kind of reservoir size vs fuel consumption rates correlation/range etc on the Italian aircraft.

It would be interesting to see everyone flying G50s if they can range longer than the 109s :-P

EDIT: Apparently it's not going happen... range was about 670km (418 miles) according to wikipedia
Quote:

Originally Posted by wikipedia
In September 1940, 20° Gruppo (Squadriglie 351/352/353), commanded by Maggiore Mario Bonzano, equipped with Fiat G.50 was part of the 56° Stormo formed to operate during the Battle of Britain as part of the Corpo Aereo Italiano based in Belgium, with 18° Gruppo (Fiat CR.42). Their use was hampered by their slow speed, open cockpits and short range. At the beginning of 1941, the C.A.I. came back in Italy, except for two G.50 Squadriglie that stayed in Belgium with Luftflotte 2, until April. While with the C.A.I. the Fiats flew 429 missioni-velivoli (missions), 34 escorts and 26 scrambles but could not manage to engage enemy aircraft. One aircraft was lost and seven more were damaged. While with Luftflotte 2, 20° Gruppo lost four additional fighters and two pilots were killed (Roncali (13 February 1941) and Meneghini (3 April), both of 352a Squadriglia), while two G.50s were damaged by German fighters and flak.[16] [N 1]

The experiences of the early series G.50s over Britain showed the inadequacies of the type. Its operations were almost useless in the campaign because they were too short-ranged and stationed too away from England. The G.50s had limited endurance, with missions rarely exceeding one hour. The G.50bis with larger fuel tanks was already in production, but it was not sent to 20° Gruppo in time. Performance was also lacking; when 22 Fiat G.50s intercepted several Hawker Hurricanes on 5 November 1940, the RAF fighters easily escaped. On 21 November, when a Bristol Blenheim attacked the Medgelem airfield two G.50s scrambled, but lost the bomber in the clouds. On 23 November, G.50s followed four Hurricanes, but were unable to close on them. Another fruitless intercept took place on 31 January, when G.50s lost a Blenheim that escaped into the clouds. The last sighting of enemy aircraft (fighters) occurred on 8 April 1941, when, once again, the elusive targets were not intercepted.

The G.50s were early models with an open canopy, useful in Mediterranean climes, but the pilots suffered heavily in the bad weather of northern Europe. The aircraft was also under-equipped, with a mediocre radio set (powered by batteries, prone to freeze at altitude) and lacking any armour protection. [N 2] In Belgium, 20° Gruppo had the opportunity to see the Bf 109 in action with several G.50 pilots trained top fly the type with two Bf 109Es sent to the Gruppo in mid-January 1941.[18]

The G.50s returned to Italy and later the 20° Gruppo had the G.50bis that had the endurance required for operational missions utilizing an extra fuel tank in the internal fuselage section originally configured as a bomb bay, but this series was primarily utilized over Africa. In the second half of the war, the G.50 operated as a multirole fighter/ground attack aircraft, with external bombs only.[19] During the opening phase of the Allied invasion of Sicily, the G.50 was the most numerous aircraft used by the Regia Aeronautica to counter attack the Allied landings.[20] Just before the invasion, the Regia Aeronautica moved to Southern Italy. 50° Stormo Assalto, a specialized ground attack unit was equipped with Fiat G.50bis fighter-bombers. As soon the invasion started, on 10 July 1943, further units were rushed to the area.[21] With other Italian and German ground attack units, 45 Fiat G.50bis of 158° and 159° Gruppi Assalto, from Pistoia [20] were committed to attack ships, landing craft and troops. On 11 July, 10 of them were in action with Re.2002s (escorted by five Re.2005s of 362a Squadriglia), when they were intercepted by an overwhelming fighter “umbrella”. Three G.50s were shot down, including Tenente Colonnello Guido Nobili, commander of 5° Stormo Assalto.[22] The remainder landed on an airfield but were destroyed by an incoming air attack.

That's one of the better wikipedia articles i've seen, it's got lot of interesting information on the type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.50

choctaw111 03-21-2011 11:25 PM

I can't wait to try out the Hurri. As much as I have always loved the Spit, the Hurri seems to be the plane I am leaning toward trying out first.
The 110 will be next.

BadAim 03-21-2011 11:52 PM

In Il2 I'm a 109 guy, but I never got the hang of the Emil. I think I'll start with the good Ole Tigermoth and progress from there as I'm comfortable. I do look forward to flying every single plane though, 'cause that's how I roll, baby!


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