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swiss 02-15-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MadBlaster (Post 224424)
you should withhold your vote on this matter.

Something the swiss are not accustomed to - in single year we have to vote
more often than the average citizen of any other democracy in his whole life.
:cool:

Btw: We have also a history of selling our sons as mercenaries to whomever pays most. Often this led to swiss fighting against each other for some foreign power.

MadBlaster 02-15-2011 03:42 PM

Well, every poll has its random element and every poll can be spun. Personally, I think removing the portion of the population that has "no opinion" on the matter reduces the likelihood of the poll being spun. However, everyone has their own opinion and should vote (or not vote) accordingly. Carry on mercenary Swiss.:-)

swiss 02-15-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MadBlaster (Post 224435)
Well, every poll has its random element and every poll can be spun. Personally, I think removing the portion of the population that has "no opinion" on the matter reduces the likelihood of the poll being spun.

Come on, with this poll lobi tried to create an argument to convince the devs a FT interface is absolutely necessary because it's the wish of the majority of this community.
Interesting idea, but it's just not gonna work with a two options only, love/hate poll.
Why should I play along such a sorry game?
It's much more fun to take the job of the party pooper.

Robotic Pope 02-15-2011 04:36 PM

What a dumb poll. You might as well have made a poll like this:
Do you want everyone to be happy? (are you good?)
Do you want some people to be unhappy? (are you evil?)

A better poll would have been:

Given the choise, which head tracking system do you intend on using for CoD?

You would get much better results that way.

MadBlaster 02-15-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 224443)
Come on, with this poll lobi tried to create an argument to convince the devs a FT interface is absolutely necessary because it's the wish of the majority of this community.
Interesting idea, but it's just not gonna work with a two options only, love/hate poll.
Why should I play along such a sorry game?
It's much more fun to take the job of the party pooper.

The poll is what it is. I see nothing devious in it's intent. Granted, it is not scientific. It is simply another way to communicate to 1C Company that there is a desire by a segment of the CoD market to have Freetrack functionality included in the game. That's all it is! Nothing about majority/minority or it being "absolutely necessary". Fact is, purchasing decisions are driven by these types of things. I think it is reasonable to assume that some of us won't buy CoD if we can't use Freetrack. This poll is an effort to try and avoid that reality. Fact is, I'm not going to go back to flying with a mouse after the hassle of learning to fly using headtracking and I'm not going to buy TrakIR when I have Freetrack system that works just fine for me. I don't even use 6DoF when it is available. I don't like jerking my head back and forth like an ostrich. I use a zoom script for that.

JAMF 02-15-2011 05:14 PM

TrackIR owner myself. I voted for supporting/allowing other available head tracking methods. It gives the players with low cashflow a way to enjoy the game on the same level. It also creates a more level playing field. It would also takes away complaints that people who can afford the gadgets, that increase the enjoyment and the immersion, are cheating.

Blackdog_kt 02-15-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JAMF (Post 224477)
TrackIR owner myself. I voted for supporting/allowing other available head tracking methods. It gives the players with low cashflow a way to enjoy the game on the same level. It also creates a more level playing field. It would also takes away complaints that people who can afford the gadgets, that increase the enjoyment and the immersion, are cheating.

That's exactly the way i feel as well.

LoBiSoMeM 02-15-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 224494)
That's exactly the way i feel as well.

Same here.

santobr 02-15-2011 08:08 PM

I hate monopolies, even if I will not use any king of headtracking.
TrackIR (3, 4 & 5), TrackIR 1 & 2, Freetrack, NewView, GlovePIE, hat switch, mouse, keyboard and so on, please. ;)


santobr.

Wolf_Rider 02-15-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 224351)

W-R, let's not regurgitate the other thread here. You know, the one where we reached a consensus that if more games offer native support for alternative head trackers in the form of a generic 6-axis interface, then the alternative trackers won't need to use "hacked" naturalpoint dll files.

Mate, you just said exactly the same I did in the post you're referring to, though I don't know you extrapolated the "are you a hacker, yes/ no?" from it.

Yes, the poll is poorly worded and there is as clear a consensus on that as there is on games supporting alternative headtracking to TrackIR. There's no mistaking it.
As well, a community instability/ split was pointed out... yes, there is that and what the crux of that instability/ split is, was pointed out.
Let's be clear about it, that is what what the instability/ split is , isn't it... the right to hack or protect, yes?


"All truth passes through three stages...
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer

Schopenhauer, an early 1800's philospher, in an essay on rhetoric, wrote:

"A last trick is to become personal, insulting, rude, as soon as you perceive that your opponent has the upper hand, and that you are going to come off worst. It consists in passing from the subject of dispute, as from a lost game, to the disputant himself, and in some way attacking his person.... But in becoming personal you leave the subject altogether, and turn your attack to his person, by remarks of an offensive and spiteful character."


*Edit

The poll as it is, forces a yes/ no response for one product and the results of which would be used more than likely mischieviously to prove a point of view, if only taken as such. At least the comments contained here reflect at least the voter's intention for their vote,.


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