RE. P-40N

Of course we understand that there are some 3D model and flight model changes involved. If Daidalus Team is seriously considering adding the plane, I trust that some in the community will be happy to help out in researching and providing data (though my impression is that DT is already a resourceful group).

Thanks,

On the P-40, would you guys consider fixing the insanely exaggerated dihedral that the 3D model currently has?

The thread below has been updated with more points as to the Ki-61 (with some overflow of similar things to Ki-43)......More coming.

http://78sentai.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=401

K2

Flyable aircraft I would like to see are......

Focke-Wulf 154
Focke-Wulf 187
Focke-Wulf 189
Focke-Wulf 200 'Condor'
Blohm & Voss 141
Dornier 17
Heinkel 177
Heinkel 115
Heinkel 219
Bachem 349 'Natter'
Arado 196
ME410
Lancaster
Halifax
Wellington
B17
B29

the later versions of the Heinkel and Junkers bombers would also be nice

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Focke-Wulf 154
Focke-Wulf 187
Focke-Wulf 189
Focke-Wulf 200 'Condor'
Blohm & Voss 141
Dornier 17
Heinkel 177
Heinkel 115
Heinkel 219
Bachem 349 'Natter'
Arado 196
ME410
Lancaster
Halifax
Wellington
B17
B29"

You forgot the MiG-21, the B-2 Spirit, the 14-Bis, the Wright Flier (that could be called "Wright Slow-faller", as it didn't actually flew, it was something like a slow fall), the Spitfire 1st prototype and the Volkwaffe (link below, for those who haven't seen it yet)

Now, are you talking seriously, mate? Half of these did little if anything in the war, or did something but not enought to force a whole team to dedicate their times to make them. I think the major problem is: most of these aren't even modeled in-game. Other thing: most of them remained prototypes or came too late or in too little numbers to do anything...

Plus, Oleg already commented about making large aircraft flyable: too difficult to model. If it's too hard to model ONE, imagine modeling all these you suggested!

I'm sorry if I'm wrong and Daidalus is willing to do include such planes, but, honestly, I don't think it worth the workload that comes along.

Plus, some of the RAF bombers (and Luftwaffe night-fighters) you requested were mostly used at night, and it's a little bit hard (and boring) to do a long (read "never-ending") mission in the darkness, and with almost nothing to entertain you... C'mon, what do we have? Flak? Can only ruin your work. Night-fighters? I suppose you've read "Enemy Coast Ahead", right? So, by the book you can see how rare was to find one.

I would suggest you to leave all this stuff to Storm of War instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk52tDKELdQ (link for "Volkswaffe" video)

@Lucas from hell

you are exagerating!
There are just 4 prototypes from 17 planes.

Focke-Wulf 154; Prototype
Focke-Wulf 187; Prototype
Focke-Wulf 189; 864 build; in game
Focke-Wulf 200 'Condor'; 263 build; in game
Blohm & Voss 141; Prototype
Dornier 17; 2055 build; missed by many, many people
Heinkel 177; 1140 build; missed by many, many people
Heinkel 115; 223 build;
Heinkel 219; 279 build;
Bachem 349 'Natter'; Prototype;
Arado 196; 541 build; in game
ME410; 1189 build; almost in game (Me 210)
Lancaster; 7377 build; missed by the brits
Halifax; 6176 build; missed by the brits
Wellington; 11461 build; missed by many, many people
B17; 12731 build; in game
B29; 3970 build; in game

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[...Now, are you talking seriously, mate? Half of these did little if anything in the war, or did something but not enought to force a whole team to dedicate their times to make them. I think the major problem is: most of these aren't even modeled in-game. Other thing: most of them remained prototypes or came too late or in too little numbers to do anything...] end Quote

such sentences disqualify you as a serious discussion partner!

It's my personal opinion that heavy bombers in IL-2 would never be used in their historical role and flown the real "hardcore" way because it is very time consuming, difficult, not much rewarding and last but not least for most virtual players boring to fly long missions. I think this would be especially true online. And the workload needed to accurately model a heavy bomber interior is enormous. So the return on time/energy investment is very small. I think it's enough to have heavies as AI only for 99% of all players.

Martin
Daidalos Team

Flying the modded game I have done several multi hour missions in the H8K "Emily" flying boat on the 1 to 1 scale "Slot" map online. I can assure you that after all that time over open water, navigating with a stopwatch and compass headings only and delivering the bombs on target, it was very satisfying.

There is room in this sim for long range aircraft, and there are folks who are interested in flying them in a realistic manner.

Do we need a dozen different types of heavy bomber and recon aircraft? No. But to have some is a good thing. And more very large maps to use them on.

All I did was produce a list of aircraft I would like to see as flyable - whether they come out or not is another thing - I'm an optimist. If the odd one comes out then great, if not then I'll live without them.

There are quite a few luftwaffe aircraft in 1946 that were in development & did not make an impact on the war, but they are still included, like the varients to the HE162. Is my wish list wrong? - obviously by some people it is & yet others would agree with me - it's the way of the world.