Well?
The way I see it?
Falstaff is saying?
"If you got the time, he's got the beer"

Pretty much most of the realists here?
Are tired of drinking the Chivas...and milk.

So far, it's been fun...:)

I guess it's because people get attacked for not spending 500 hours on a sim that's fundamentaly broken. Robtek says he has got more than his money's worth out of the game. What that says to the devs is that it's time to leave COD where it is and move on to the sequel. Most of us that have shelved the game til it's fixed don't think we have got any value out of it yet and are not ready for the devs to hold over fixes for the sequel.

By the way Bewolf, you know how many times someone has said the same thing is being said over and over again? Thanks for adding in your exceptionally long winded nauseum to the thread and welcome to the "ad-nauseum" party.

Sorry Force, if you really think that the devs dont strive to remove all fallacies and errors of their work, with or without any forum input, you are much more blind then I thought.

In short you are saying that developement continues only because of the whining, thats as cross as a tail wagging the dog.

And that you dont seem to understand that any developement for the "sequel" is also a developement for CoD as they are using the same engine is really sad.

And finally, the more positive posters were only reacting to the overboarding whining in the beginning, now its a self runner. :D

Just to have a positive ending. :D :D :D

There is a serious side to it, or there could be.

If you can clear all the batlefield smoke and mist out of the way (ridiculous optimism, blind faith, mis-reading the past, Tarot-cards for the future) then you could have a ground-swell of sensible opinion which the devs could actually find useful and instructive, or at least worth taking note of. It may even influence certain priorities and directions.

As it is you have a foxhunt with the rosier-cheeked members sat on high horses blowing their trumpets, ta-da, while encouraging the dogs on the ground to go after any fox that dares criticise. And throwing smoke-bombs to obfuscate as much as they can.

I particularly enjoy the standard line 'but we know it's broken, we knew all along, you dont need to keep saying'. As far as i can tell it is mostly spoken by those who argued bitterly with any early problem-raising, ignored the defects, assailed anyone who asked for missing features, and generally let a few months go by before quietly sneaking in the odd tacit admission all was not bright and rosy. Then crossed their arms and looked all smug. Hmm.

Never mind those who spend 1000s upgrading base don the those 'certain certainties'.

This is why the more idiot elements need reigning in, or at least countering. I have no problem with anyone liking the game for what it is. But could be, and will be? Or is that 'should have been'?

Ben

Agreed. I'd like to see them ban you.

David Hayward said:

>>Agreed. I'd like to see them ban you. <<

You're just an all-round nice guy and good egg aren't you?

That may well happen, or I'll probably leave again in any case. You can then insert a smart quip.

In my opinion you should have been banned many months ago, for one insidious jibe after another, steadily maintained, with the occasional outburst of really low, dowdy, spiteful obnoxiousness. I could quote, but it would some time to gather all the available evidence. A few days in fact.

I have no respect, or even sneaking respect for you, or the people like you. But you are probably aware of that. Good.

I understand perfectly. The fear is they are going to release the gfx patch for COD, and the rest will follow on the sequel. Since COD runs great on my machine now, I will gain nothing from the gfx patch and have to drop another $50 for the AI,FM,DM, etc. for the sequel updates that update COD. This is more of a possibility when you have people stating constantly "I have got my money's worth and more from COD, what's wrong with you people"

There is a vast majority of folks that have simply shelved COD and moved on to other things while quietly waiting for COD to be fixed. If they find out that that $50 bill collecting dust on their shelf is going to cost another $50 to be patched properly, they probably will lose interest completely, and not purchase the sequel. I don't want that to happen.

+1000

Right back at ya!

I don't think that's going to happen. I know that if it does happen as you describe it will greatly curb my buying decision regarding BoM. I don't expect detailed clouds and weather formations, but I would expect AI, FM working comms and at least a working on-line mode for those who use it to be implimented in CoD independant of BoM.

I also think (hopeful) that 1C sees it the same way. They know that despite the whining, there has been a lot of support too. Even the most ardent whiners are fans who expected something better and are disappointed. Releasing the corrections and features independant of CoD (or even only dovetailed into CoD with purchase of BoM) will lead to an even greater loss of faith in the company. It would be suicide IMO.