The correct response at this point in a forum argument according to netiquette is:

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though variants of this sort of response often work well in appropriate circumstances ...

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A lefty troll seeking revenge.

more evidence for moderator below:

MD_Titus said,

"andy got trolled hard in this thread, mostly with the lefty stick but also by the climate change denial schtick and, in honesty, lost it. but he wasn't the only one throwing insults around. to say that "I thought the left were the moderate ones willing to listen to all points of view" is somewhat insulting really, and forgets the left's long love of simply lining up it's enemies and shooting/decapitating/deporting them. we can be just as savage, brutal and blunt as the right, we're all people after all. but that comment also carries the implication that the right don't have to be reasonable and listen to all points of view, which to be fair is usually borne out by observation."

Notice the preoccupation of left verses right. Nothing about climate change, per say. I guess andy getting banned kind of tweaked him? So the follow up...the circular arguments, the mis-directions, the non sequiturs, the repeated attempts to make the thread about me. Really, pretty obvious. I guess his emotions got the best of him. Anyhoo, I didn't report him. I also gave him chances to cease and desist. But a frustrated troll, what can you do? I leave it up to the moderators to evaluate. I don't want the thread deleted. I stand by my arguments. The thread is pretty good one imo. His stuff, acceptable but misguided until it went personal attack to try deflect the validity of my arguments.

Ok, i'm done for now.

Here are my two cents on your comment. Take a look at this website.

http://www.globalwarminglies.com/Sun.html

I as a 14 year old kid remember watching the news in 1986 and scientists predicting in 7-12 years the earth was going to heat up because of the amount of solar flares hitting the earth. It was one of the first times they were able to truly see the effects of solar flares with satellite imagery. I never forgot this or the idiots who 10 years later started saying that driving cars was causing global warming. Today we realize even more how severe the solar flares are. I hear constantly that they are witnessing larger and larger solar flares. So I think for all of these young kids who have been bombarded with this notion that we should walk or use other means to not pollute. Please before you spout out all the propaganda you are taught at school and you hear in the media. Think for one second. Please go tell India and Russia and China who pollute more than anyone else to clean themselves up. The people that think they have some agenda to protect the earth by attacking people who can think for themselves, look at facts. Most of the people I hear attacking anyone who do not believe in Global Warming as the media portrays it are the dangerous people in our society. These are the people who are easily manipulated and can not think on their own. Many are very far left socialist/marxists. They believe in a world where everyone has to live by their beliefs or they are evil. The Kyoto Protocol called for wealthy countries to pay for other countries like China, India, Russia to continue to pollute as they want. The other countries would then tax their own people to pay for the pollutants that these countries would continue to keep polluting for decades into the future. The funny thing is no one is abiding by this protocol anymore.

http://unfccc.int/kyoto_protocol/items/2830.php

Shrinking ozone hole could speed global warming

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/cli...global-warming

One thing I have noticed through the years are the leftist young kids that come on forums and just harass anyone with different views than theirs. They can not back anything they say with facts. Instead just repeat propaganda. For some reason these people troll forums of all type trying to force their view as though its a crusade. I have listened to these people and the older I get I realize that 90% of the time they are wrong. I am suspicious of anything that is constantly imbedded in us whether it is at school or on the news. They are doing this to collectively try to control and manipulate your thoughts to what they want. I have seen this in the Stock Market to daily life. We all know about the lies and fraud that took place from real estate to the markets. If you were one of the few people to state this before the crash you were also evil if you were intelligent enough to think for yourself and not be caught up in the propaganda. However now we hear these same people wanting to be bailed out because they can not afford their house that they never could from the beginning. In the end everyone pays for them. People use your own brain! Think for yourself and you will see the deception in front of you most of the time. Be respectful of others views. Question the people who attack your views and see them for who they really are.

Actually the 10 highest per capital co2 producers are:

1. Qatar
2. Trinidad and Tobago
3. United Arab Emirates
4. Netherlands Antilles
5. Bahrain
6. Brunei
7. Kuwait
8. Luxembourg
9. Aruba
10. Falkland Islands


Australia sneaks in at number 11 ... but unlike the first 10 has a relatively large population.

By my calculations that makes AUSTRALIA by far the worst CO2 producing nation in the world.

Bloody Aussies ....

^^^

and that's why all Chinese cities/ major towns are constantly covered in thick heavy smog


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...og_782115c.jpg


For those who have been there and choked, you know what I mean...





and Marx labelled them the "useful idiots"






gee whizz bud, I remember a time when it was you doing all that... lol, yes the irony :)







http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Regulator

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_F...tory_Authority


http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.co...st_agenda.html

I see.

Nothing really works in a recession, but our system for years has beat the hell out of any others. Even our poor aren't poor by world standards. Not ready to throw it out because of this recession.

it's "per se"

and not in the slightest, i'm simply calling you on your own trolling. in talking to you, how else am i to address you? wizard? mad? mb?

as to the climate change, it was discussed, along with your view that atheists should kill themselves, the general political climate and the seeming preoccupation with climate change being a leftist conspiracy. all relevant, all on topic, as wide as the topic has become.

i see all of this as another attempt to "win" an argument by avoiding the topics being discussed or serious questions asked, and instead resorting to baiting in the rather forlorn hope that i'll go off the deep end at you. :rolleyes:

guess so, but it has the potential to become more than simply a recession. the situation in spain and italy could be as grave, if not worse, than greece or ireland. it's starting to look unprecedented. not sure how it compares to 1929 but the repercussions of that are well known.

Well, all I will add here...Germany has accepted climate change as a fact and is living up to the challenge.

As a side effect hundret thousands of new jobs have been created and a whole new technolgy field got established. Lots of money to be made here.

So, US, please stick to what you think. We have enough competition from China already in this new field.

I meant it as humour (but I suspect you already know that). I'm genuinely puzzled by your last few posts. There are no shape-shifting reptilians as yet (another 'joke' by the way - admittedly not a great one) - but who is The Wizard. Please enlighten me. And sorry for any offence inadvertently caused.

well quite. stimulating a stagnant manufacturing sector in times of recession? the horror, the horror.