There is an old saying, "Do not count your chickens until they hatch".

when they hatch - it is too late...

This is the last moment to avoid Ubisoft "single player permanent connection and online save..." rubbish.

But it takes a loud voice of il-2 community warning!!!

( I am afraid that Oleg has already signed his Ubisoft marriage... )

Oleg has a mind of his own, and the most excellent air combat simulator available, even now with the old Il2.

He has many years of experience with Ubisoft. I'm quite sure there will be mutual respect in any agreement they will make.

Ubisoft blew it when they put invasive piracy protection in PE-2 addon and it bombed. There was no further PE-2 type protection in any subsequent add on Il2 releases. A lesson learned I would say.

You can complain of course, but don't make a nuisance of yourself in the process on these boards. Our members will only tolerate so much...

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As I read it, the majority of people gave up on Silent Hunter V because it wasn't anywhere near as good as its predecessors game-wise, not because of DRM. We know that's not going to be the same with this sim.

Given that many of us are prepared to fork over our money in the general direction of Oleg & Co I for one will be glad to see some form of DRM involved - I want to see this production become successful and be profitable, not available free to anyone without a conscience. And if you think that everyone would pay up 'cos we're all sim fans' then you're out of your mind.

You really don't know this community very well. There would be no putting up with any online only arrangement.

Oleg knows that, he is very in-touch with his users. Online activation, if it is used will probably be a first time activation only.

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Stop it with the DRM ranting! Ubisoft released Silent Hunter V and Assassin Creed II with that "Constant online DRM" and they soon afterwards released patches to remove it. They learned their lesson. R.U.S.E. was just released and it didn't have that DRM, just the "Activate then Play" DRM.

Maybe you should wait until we have an answer before you start working yourselves into a frenzy and smashing all your Warhammer 40K figurines and ripping your anime posters off the wall.

Sure Ubisoft is run by shortsighted crooks. Sure they are heavy handed when dealing with developers and they manufacture child porn on the side, but they do learn from their mistakes when it costs them money. Just be patient and wait for an answer from Oleg or Ubisoft themselves.

WOP requires activation and you have to deactivate the installation if you need to install it again or transfer it to another PC. Is it likely that SOW be restricted to a single PC licence (as with WOP)?

We'll have to wait and see when it's out or if Ubisoft makes a press release. I'm guessing Oleg is going to keep his mouth shut since that's probably a "publisher question" that he isn't allowed to answer. Honestly I wouldn't really care about the activation/deactivation thing for installing and uninstalling since I can't afford 2 PC's that will run it.

Wrong mate... fans expressed themselves, very clearly (but too late):

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160783

Considering that these are "hardcore" fans... you can imagine the rest of market... (former market)

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I have been waiting at least 2 weeks for this sim to come, when it comes i will buy it regardless having same publisher as il2,drm,steam,punkbuster,internetor even if i had to have a made in russia oleg approved pc to run it i will buy it!

Unless i can get a dodgy download