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robtek 01-06-2008 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonbirder (Post 33621)
What keeps it rolling is the fact that you cannot accept basic facts that stare everyone else in the face...
My last two posts have stated something as un-controversial and obvious as "Online cheating is solely caused by Online players"
There should be no debate or questioning of that...yet twice you have posted questioning or trying to ameliorate that statement...
I will take it by your somewhat outlandish allegory (Online Cheaters = Murderers) that you don't have a mechanism by which Offline players can cause Online cheating...So i'll assume you agree with me on the statement "members of the Online Community are the only ones that can cheat other Online Players"
Unless you wish to disagree with that staement as well?
if cheater=murderer with pistol then hacker= giving pistols away for free, regardless of the problems that will start.

jasonbirder 01-06-2008 04:42 PM
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hacker= giving pistols away for free, regardless of the problems that will start
Problems only start if somone wants to commit a crime...or in this case if someone wants to cheat...
Just as a pistol securely locked away in a display cabinet in my study doesn't affect anyone...nor does my using the Sound Mod offline or with my friends in a peer to peer game.
Similarly if someone is going to commit a crime...they will do so...if they haven't got a gun they'll use a knife...if they haven't got a knife they'll use their fists...so will a cheater who wants to cheat...they did before the Sound Mod and they can do so without the Sound Mod.
It doesn't make people cheat...anymore than owning a gun makes someone a murderer!

Archie 01-06-2008 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Archie (Post 33620)
So why is this discussion going on in this thread,which looking at the title is for tracks only.There is another soundmod thread for discussion!How many threads do you want?
So?

jasonbirder 01-06-2008 04:51 PM
Archie Way to go...4 posts and 3 of them moaning about what other people are saying...
If you're not interested don't read it and save yourself the trouble of replying!

Archie 01-06-2008 04:57 PM
Not at all jasonbirder.I am just interested in why you continue to post in this thread,which seems to be just for tracks of people cheating,when there is another thread running to talk about soundmodding/hacking.So why sre you posting in this thread,rather than the other one?

stalkervision 01-06-2008 04:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie (Post 33622)
Ask a simple question.
actually I believe the correct phrasing is..

"Ask a stupid question.." :)

Archie 01-06-2008 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stalkervision (Post 33638)
actually I believe the correct phrasing is..

"Ask a stupid question.." :)
Why is it stupid? The title of this thread is
Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

So why are people having a discussion here,instead of the soundmod thread?

robtek 01-06-2008 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonbirder (Post 33629)
Problems only start if somone wants to commit a crime...or in this case if someone wants to cheat...
Just as a pistol securely locked away in a display cabinet in my study doesn't affect anyone...nor does my using the Sound Mod offline or with my friends in a peer to peer game.
Similarly if someone is going to commit a crime...they will do so...if they haven't got a gun they'll use a knife...if they haven't got a knife they'll use their fists...so will a cheater who wants to cheat...they did before the Sound Mod and they can do so without the Sound Mod.
It doesn't make people cheat...anymore than owning a gun makes someone a murderer!
It just makes it easy to become a cheater when before it was just too difficult to improve just a little bit to "level" the playfield

Archie 01-06-2008 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 33513)
Not really zap.As I said above,not all is as it seems in these threads,and,in light of a few pm's I and some others have received recently,confirming what I have suspected for some time,I am not going to play this little game anymore.As I said,some people have another agenda here,and not all is as it seems.It takes 5 seconds for an anti-modder to log out of this forum and log in under a different name as a pro-modder.I myself have more than one name on this forum.I can easily start a five page rant with myself on sound modding if I want to.I agree with what they are trying to achieve,but not the way they are doing it.You will have to try and keep the threads going without me.
Have fun.
Interesting!

Lo0n 01-07-2008 12:32 PM
so zap was daichi was baron? so what's been going on then, been away for a bit... i note that evidence has been posted of cheating actually occuring (not by the main protagonists of this "discussion" of course). any idea on if this is an epidemic to kill online or merely the preserve of a few kiddies who have adhd and can't learn how to fly properly?
and archie, the discussion mainly centred around "show proof please" "no, i know it's happening, you do as well so i won't show proof" "but i haven't seen proof anywhere else, post it please" "no" etc etc etc


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