Don't normally do this, but +1 to you ;)

Well, I am at work having a sneaky peak at this, so haven't really got time to read through 30+ pages, but thanks for your friendly advice Swiss.

Just because it's you:

I'm tired of this is bullshit.
I blame the hysterical people wanting to prevent everything fun from everyone because some effect from something might affect someone.
Someone died because he/she had a condition and played a game? He/she might have died anyway for some other thing than a game triggering his/her condition.

Coddling at its worst.

I am an real aircraft pilot, and this is something we are made aware of and taught how to respond (look away from the flashing light!).

Flash induced Epilepsy has never >directly< killed anyone AFAIK, however it can be an issue if operating a vehicle.

What is vital is if one does have epilepsy so they will be aware.
In short, if a game triggers a bout of epilepsy, it is a GOOD thing (tm) becuase one will now how to deal with it when it happens again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy

Sigh...

Did you not read the other thread on the Epilepsy filter?

The oversight, if it can be called such, was that Oleg's team had not developed a game that has been epilepsy tested before (Il2 1946 was published before this was introduced). Therefore they were unaware of how many issues would appear during testing.

The game was submitted to Ubisoft for routine epilepsy testing and failed the test spectacularly. Response was to attempt to correct each and every little cause separately, but there was not enough time. Ubisoft won't publish without issues being solved. Result, this stopgap solution is pushed out.

Short term solution will be to make disabling the epilepsy filter an own risk thing.

Long term will be to fix the individual issues.

So I will buy the game, hope it runs acceptably on my PC or the short term solution arrives soon, and wait for the long term fix. Its at most a temporary inconvenience, so I'm not going to act like its the end of the world

some sense!

the wailing that's occurring you'd think it actually, in the grand scheme, mattered.

http://www.gamesradar.com/ds/rayman-...05165411533021

http://www.videogameseizures.org/Pre...trategies.html

In December 2008 video game manufacturers in the UK agreed to test their video game images for seizure safety prior to release

Btw, website about (seizures) is one of a lawyer sueing some editors for seizures

What ever happened, its still very underhand not to let people know BEFORE the release date, and not find out by reading the russian forums.

Thank god I didn't preorder it. As of now, the game looks FUBAR, so I'll wait 'til they sort out the problems.. (2 weeks, be sure!)

But think of it - you could faint and hit the keyboard with your head!

And as a result you break it, or even worse, generate an infinite number of repeating keystrokes.

Tar and feather him, or even better, burn him on a stick.

I suggest him to investigate how many people have fallen off cliffs of Dover while wearing hiking boots and sue the boot manufacturers.

It seems that because of epilepsy-gate muzzleflashes, sparks and flying debree have been removed as well from current version of CoD. But the game sounds very good :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwOW8...layer_embedded

So I was right then after all the Dev's screwed up not Ubi. Now stop 'sighing' and apologise theres a good chap.

This is Male Cow Poop, Other Publishers got games wich are way worse for people with Epilepsy (Crysis 2 being the latest example of these games) and a simple Epilepsy Warning is enough.
No need to ruin a game wich took 6 years to develop :(

If you have to take it a step further than add a huge fat red Epilepsi warning against a black background that shows upfor 3 seconds each time the geme is started, that should cover you legaly against being seud against some idiot with Epelipsy whose gonna play a computer game for hours on end.

(Legal statment: not saying here that Epileptics are idiots, just the ones who know there epileptic and than go and play a game for hours untill they have an attack, and than sue the publisher for having an attack)

Anyway, this Male Cow Poop means im not buying the game, like atleast 10 others i know that where gonna buy the game before but arte no longer buying it now, some even had there preoders canceled, so good luck selling your game has an build in performance loss/stutter and on top of that doesnt run on a Multi GPU Cards, Crossfire and SLI setups, and looks pooped.

Is MS FSX subject to the anti-seizure stuff? If so, I'm sure a lot of the stuff that seems wrong can be fixed, it'll just take time (prop spinning, etc.).

I just don't understand how all the stuff in CoD can 'fail' when I look at some recently released games that seemingly haven't failed.

Modern Warfare, Bulletstorm, all of those FPSs. Wings of Prey for that matter. ArmA 2.

ArmA 2 must be an epileptic's worst nightmare if played during night missions!

Is it only Ubisoft that has this restriction? What are some other Ubisoft very recent titles? Those must have to pass this restriction too.

Thanks mate ;)

I think this is my first post...

I'm just getting my copy on the 31st.
Then I'm going to install it, and wait for patches.

Anyone know if I can run this on a HD5570?

you mean 5750? if so yes, i am getting between 40-60fps avg,

No I mean the HD5570
I can run games like Wings of Prey on high/higher with 40-50 FPS

@MugiSNK

I have i7 920, and Radeon hd 5850 with 12gb ram. The game is not playable. However, i don't think it is up to the hardware but the problems that resist in the game itself at this stage.

Agreed, MG had to take the axe to their own code to fit in with UBI's requirements.

Lets hope it does not take to long for them to sort out the problem.

Bryan.

Will you please be consistent?
 

Sorry, but you have posted in three different places different results as to avg. frame rate. There is a big different between 60 avg, 40 avg and something less than that. In another post you say it drops down in the teens. I understand the desire to be optimistic. I am trying to be as well. But please try to be realistic. We want useful data. Do us all a favor and do a benchmark test. Use the in game filter, not fraps. Fly around for 5 minutes over land, water and near aircraft. Then tell us what the min/max/avg numbers all. You don't even have to post a screenshot. I will take your word on it. Thank you.:)

Thanks for the quick replies. I'm just getting my copy, and then I'm going to wait for some proper patches before doing anything. Just sticking to 1946 until that day.

Here it is. I think 1C didn't want to keep pushing Cliff's release date, so they released it! What's the deal? Some people can barely play it, some cannot!
Just support 1C for now, let them built up an amazing new IL-2 the upcoming months.

i have flown alone 1000 feet low was 40 avg was 63 and high was 97 :) :)
did a 4x4 dog fight over land and sea low was 10 avg was 44 and high was ...70..i think :)
and i did some treetop trimming which was around 30 avg :) but will be making a video in the next couple days i hope and will post some screen shots

p.s i was not using fraps and all fps are from inside the cockpit

Just to make clear:
This issue definitely decreases FPS rate?
I can run Wings of Prey on higher settings, 1280x800 res without problems, 40 fps. It would be a shame to see such an high quality promised game turning into an unplayable game for mid-range PC's like mine.

I hope they will fix this at the next release next week :)

MugiSNK



(edit: get 333)

Thanks. Those numbers give me hope.

Then you just lost a customer. Sorry. Not being able to disable the filter is unacceptable. I don't have epilepsy, no-one in my family does. I don't really care for others making decisions for me, "for my own good".
Blame UBI. Although I don't understand why you guys are still with that pack of hustlers and liars. It's not like they have never screwed you over before. I think the ROF or the Eagle Dynamics model would work for you as well.

What are you talking about? They have already patched in an option to disable the filter.

Great first post, well done.

I'd say they're legally obliged. I can't think of any other explanation.

I would have buyed the game wether it had the Storm of War name...if ubi is responsible for this sad epi thing (?) an only steam release would be also a good alternative. I have doubts now about CoD.

I won't buy it for now that's sure. I'm deeply dissapointed, i buyed all the other IL2 games till Sturmovik 46 and i'm still very happy with the sim. Btw. i got an MS FFB2, and no forcefeedback...comeon... :(

This epilepsy problem has been driven out of proportion. Some pimple faced UBI lawyer came up with this great idea and ruined that game. Such unrealistic fear reaction is typical for French companies (saw it in other domains as well and that can ruin a company as well). Just a greedy lawyer making some money...:evil:

Now let's face reality (and I am highly qualified regarding the medical question of epilepsy). There are many flightsims out there and some are made by companies with much larger pockets than 1C (Microsoft?). How many lawsuits have taken place on the claim that a Flightsim game triggered epilepsy????

From a medico-legal point of view, no videogame can create epilepsy. It just reveals a pre-existing condition which remained unknown to the patient until he started to play. It is therefore a beneficial event which will lead the patient to consult and perhaps change his professional orientation (no he should not apply for a job as a A380 pilot with AirFrance).

It is therefore sufficient to put in the usual warning about this game triggering an epileptic fit in people who are already known to have epilepsy or are ignoring this status up to now. Both categories should seek medical advice regarding the use of videogames.

That's it. You did your duty. The doctor will be responsible for what happens next and not you. Not putting an anti-epilepsy filter into the game is not a discriminating action towards a certain part of the population. You have epilepsy..stay away from videogames. You are blind...don't apply to become a bus driver...

So my advice is to go and have a lawyer write such an advertisement for you. Then tell the pimple faced UBI responsible that he is more at risk for getting a class action regarding selling a broken product and that he can save his money ( and @ss) by backing off the epilepsy filter.

Then you can just go back and use the formerly developed product with all the SLI power and high FPS....and you will have a IL2 crowd rushing to buy COD.

My 2 cents

Cheers,

Eckhart

ps: Sorry for being so long and windy

Games for Windows site carries the epilepsy warning too now...

I have an idea. Why not distribute this though an adult content distributor? Where we get our seedy magazines we can also pick up a rated X copy of this sim.