Ok, even if Ubi wants to sell the CE only in the UK (and I'll just decide to not even address the reasoning there) that still doesn't tell me if a CE bought in the UK and shipped to me in the USA will have any kind of regional zoning crap.

Slightly understatement..a disappointment.... i'm flying to or take a ferry over to get an edition.......

Won't add up. If it is only available as exclusive in the Ubi specified countries....*censored*

you should analyze the current sales of IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 in Europe and the USA.
I think that IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 has more 'sold in Europe instead of USA
while the pacific fighter-IL-2 has sold more 'in U.S.A. rather than in Europe, only 'cause his name is called PACIFIC FIGHTER.
the U.S.A. sometimes they are too superficial and do not realize that the product goes for its technical merit and not just for the name.

In fact there are many peoples who have only pacific fighter.
they require com pacific fighter upgrade to version 4.10.
impossible before you buy IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 and then you can upgrade to version 4.10m

the produck CoD exit first in RUSSIA.
AFTER go in GERMANY in the center of EUROPE after from GERMANY go to ENGLAND north ITALY south and FRANCE east(SPAIN).
After the product from FRANCE and FROM ENGLAND go to AMERICA south america BRASIL ARGENTINA and north AMERICA U.S.A. CANADA.

I think that is so 'the evolution of the distribution.

I think that if we keep bugging them about selling the collecters edition to those of us that do not live in the U.K.,then maybe they will get the message.
"keep your heads on a swivel".

Release in 2 weeks and EB Games in Canada has nothing on it's web site about this game at all. Not even in the "coming soon" section. :evil:

Anyone who have managed ordering IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs Of Dover Collector's Edition in Sweden?

Webbhallen = fail
GameStop = fail

You'll have to oder in abroad I'm afraid.

I did not wanted to do it, but these slackers at Ubi have left me with no other option.

i just order at:

www.ubi-through-a-proxy-in-the-uk.com

funny thing is that later on they deliver for free to germany. This is NONSENSE.

Hi,

I am quite confused here aswell.
Ordered the collectors edition from Finland (I'm from Denmark) which got cancelled. Phoned up Ubisoft Nordic, which couldn't help me with any kind of helpful information about getting the collectors edition.

Ubi through a proxy in the uk? - Can you explain more on how that works?

This is really insane - we want to buy this great game, but are not "allowed" by Ubisoft.

-just google for a proxy server that is located in the Uk.
or use any from this list
http://www.samair.ru/proxy/type-09.htm
-go to the LAN/Connections options of your browser and configure it to connect through a proxy
-go to the main webpage of cllifs of dover http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-of-dover/. Then click the preorder button and you should be taken to the uk page of ubi to order. Or you can also go directly to ubi.com and browse for the game.
-preorder the game and tell them to send it to Denkmark (free shipping I guess)
-enjoy the game when they send it to you.

ps. maybe you are not comfortable ordering through a proxy, i understand. I would reccomend you no to use the bank account in whchi you have all your life savings. just in case. PAYPAL didn´t work for me via proxy, so I had to use thedebit card. It´s a risk, but i use a debit card that i use only to buy online associated to a bank account to which I transfer only the money I need for online shoppinga at a given time.

I have probably busted a buch of the forum´s rules...

Yikes - i might be a silly-boy, but i think thats a lot of risks to run in order to get the CE..
I am not felling very comfortable about this proxy thing...

Proxy no good
 

Seems like the UK UBI shop doesn't deliver the Collectors Edition abroad :(

By logging in to shop.ubi.com via a UK proxy you are able to find the Collectors Edition. You are also able to put it in your shopping cart, but you are not able to submit the order. Neither with PayPal nor with a credit card :evil:

I guess we'll have to make a trip to England this summer.

this is the email I got from UBI. They have not charged it to my debit card yet, but up to now everithing looks good

Dear **************,


Thank you for ordering from Ubisoft Entertainment EMEA on 09 March 2011. The following email is a summary of your order. Please use this as your proof of purchase. If you paid by credit card, please look for DRI*Ubisoft Store on your credit card billing statement.

Note: If your order contains download products, you can complete the download by looking up your order using the information and link below. When the order summary appears, click on the Download link next to the product name. If your order contains physical products, you will receive a separate email notification when your products have shipped.

To look up your order, please visit: www.findmyorder.com

Please note: This email message was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming email. Please do not reply to this message.

Sincerely,
The Official Ubisoft Customer Service
shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/help


Your Order and Billing Information:

Order Number: ***********
Order Date: 09 March 2011

*************
*********

Münster-Wolbeck 48167
DE


Shipping Address:

**************
****************

Münster-Wolbeck 48167
DE



Product Name: IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover - Collector's Edition
Platform: PC (Pre-Ordered)
pre-ordered release date: Mon Mar 21 00:00:00 CDT 2011
Qty Ordered: 1
Amount: £42.01
Shipment Tracking Numbers:
Product Name: Silent Hunter III
Platform: PC
Qty Ordered: 1
Amount: £0.00
Serial Number: ******************
Download



Subtotal: £42.01
Shipping: £0.00

Tax: £7.98
Total: £49.99




anyway I will let you know if the guys at UBi decide to cancel my order.

Funny here is mine.


Thank you for contacting the Ubisoft Store.

Order Date: January 20, 2011

We understand that you are asking for your order for IL-2 Sturmovik:
Cliffs of Dover.

The product that you ordered is a pre-order and has not yet been
released to the public. Although we do not have an estimated release
date, as soon as it is available your order will be promptly fulfilled
and you will be notified via email.

If you purchased via credit card, rest assured your card will not be
charged until the product has been released.

I found a way to order the CE safely through the proxy with PAYPAL/credit card (I tested it with PAYPAL).

1. go to UBI.com (according to your country) and create an account with your local addres. this account is valid also to login in UBI UK.

2.Use the proxy to order the collector edition UNTIL YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET REDIRECTED TO PAYPAL.

3.Without leaving the page, go to your browser configuration and unclick the proxy option, so now you navigate normally. (the UBI website won´t detect that you are not connecting from the uk anymore)

4. Procced normally (and safely) with your payment with PAYPAL.

I just ordered a collectors edition this way and got the payment confirmation email from PAYPAL

Thanks, Jcenzano

The trick seemed to work, I just got confirmation from PayPal :)

Edit: I just got my order confirmed by shop.ubi.com, too
IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover - Collector's Edition
"pre-ordered release date: Mon Mar 21 00:00:00 CDT 2011"

Does this work? How much postage do they charge ect, wont UBI just refund the money once they see it is an OS address? Or want more money for shipping?

Cheers

No shipping charge from the UK to Finland. I suppose all of the EU is the same.

Quote from the confirmation I got from Ubi
Item(s): 40,64GBP
Shipping: 0,00GBP
Tax: 9,35GBP
Total: 49,99GBP

Now we only have to wait for the "We know what you did, sir, and your order is cancelled, sir"-email ;)

Just got a mail from Amazon UK why they, unlike Amazon France and Germany, haven't listed CoD:

I've searched our catalogue, but the item "IL2 Sturmovik : Cliffs of Dover" you asked about is not currently listed. I can’t guarantee if or when it will be available for pre-order by us.

IL-2 Cliffs of Dover Colector and standard edition is available from EB games Australia.$89.95 for standard and $109.95 CE

sorry if been asked before but does anyone know when this will be available from the steam store?

I dont think anyone knows anything :)

Dissapointed
 

Dear friends, greetings from Holland,

I've been lurking around for quite a while now. Actually, I'm one of those old farts that directly bought IL2 when it came out, back in 2001. Hard to believe the engine used is a decade old, but still looks extremely nice with everything maxed out on a new PC.

Anyway, I'm not here to show my praise towards the original, which was simply one of the best games I've ever played. I am here, though, to express my anger regarding this modern-day distribution thing. Around 2005 or so, digital download started to get popular. Personally, I am extremely against this kind of distribution. Why? Because I want to touch my copy. I want to hold it, sleep with it, whatever. More serious, I don't believe in "virtual purchases", or so to call. You never, ever know whether they will one day put an halt to a kind of service, certainly in these economic turbulent times.

Anyway, I can write 5 pages about how nostalgic I am, and how fond I am of opening a 15 year old box with a disk still looking brand new. Unfortunately, I don't have the time nor the energy to do so at this time, but I'll save it for the future.

What I basically want to say, is that I deeply, deeply regret this kind of distribution. In the Netherlands, it seems the game is ONLY available throughout digital download. Not even a basic variant of the game is released in our country. Yeah, through download.....

The tempt is big to write a long, dull rant about modern-day publishers, but that is also not what I'm going to do. Believe me, my fingers are itching, but I'm sure you guys have all heard it before, and will hear it again.

The question I wonder; Did I become too mature for games, or did games become too mature for me? Are we entering a stage in which cheap downloadable distribution, with no guarantees for the future whatsoever, take over the old-fashioned way of publishing? I think Ubisoft is making an enormous mistake, especially due to the public of Flight Simulators being more mature, and therefor more likely to represent the same values stated above.

I am going to send E-mails to a few retailers within the gaming industry to explain this issue. If we're lucky, one of my favourite shops will import the game itself, prior selling it to the consumer, which will safe me the hassle of using a foreign site, which is, a disaster due to not having a creditcard and language restrictions.

I hope we'll get some good news in the future, for a change.

It's a sign of the times my friend. Even PS3 games will soon be bought on online via Steam. If Steam ever goes belly up, I'll bet they'll release a patch so the game's you bought will be unlocked, even if their Licence Agreement says they have no obligation to do so. Failing that, the hackers will step in.

There's more than 1 way to fly online with CoD

You will all soon be in the air and the forum will cool down a little :)





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Same here, in fact a freind of mine bought a DVD version of Napolean Total War which is a Steam game, only to find that the DVD only contained a link to Steam to download it online. So i didnt buy that game, as i have a cap of 10GB a month on my internet. I cant afford to spend £1 per GB over my limit, just because Steam says i have to. Especially when I already bought the game.
If they did that with IL2, that would kill me.

You can install steam games from CD you just have to wait for the game to unlock on steam and then install it!

Would it be illegal if someone copied the European/Steam edition to one of the torrent sites and we download it from there? When you install it on your computer you could activate it through Steam and pay that way. Just a thought. Could spare us 3 weeks of waiting. I'm not talking piracy here. I can barely see the logic of a staggered box release. A staggered digital release throws me really for a loop. I hope for 1C's sake that the program does not get cracked before release in the Americas.

If they are really going to delay the US release a month, I hope the game gets cracked and that they lose a lot of sales. Then maybe they'll learn not to do such stupid things in the future.

Digital distribution is FINE so long as they make it FAIR for everyone. Why make us wait an extra month when everyone else has it early, its DIGITAL there is no need to add this delay for artificial reasons, it only makes people want to torrent it and play it whilst they wait, but there's always the risk they will just not pay for it when its available to them? Why take the risk..make it available to ALL who want to purchase. Are you listening UBISOFT???:confused:

Steamwork might prevent what you suggest

I know what you mean, exchanging the game files that won't work without a valid key anyway, then using a legitimate key that you paid for to unlock the game. It's not piracy because it won't work for free, it's just like having someone send you a copy from Europe. However, i doubt it would work.

Steam versions are region locked anyway. The boxed versions will use Solidshield DRM instead of steam protection, but nobody knows if that's region locked as well.

Maybe you should dig a bit deeper here. We do know that boxed editions will take some time to ship, but download editions should be available easily. This leads me to believe there's only two reasonable scenarios why this delay happens.

1) An outside influence. The game needs to be reviewed by the ESRB and get a rating assigned to it before it can be distributed. How long this takes is anyone's guess.
2) An inside deal between different retailers/publishers. The digital download platforms have a deal or contract term with the ones selling boxed editions, they'll delay the release until the physical boxes arrive so that digital download platforms don't hog all the preorders and early sales.

In both cases, you should be pointing your finger at someone over your side of the pond and not the developers. ;)

I am not blaming the developers, but whoever is responsible for the decision to not release all over the world at the same time. If there is a delay, because of the need to get an ESRB rating or whatever, then they should delay the release everywhere. Having different release dates is a really bad idea. And if the difference is almost a month, that's a REALLY bad idea. That's like inviting people to pirate the game.

I think that many people in the US are not just going to go a month of reading about how we here in Europe are enjoying the game without getting to play it themselves, not when there is certainly going to be cracked versions around that they can download.

Im sorry I feel for you guys, However welcome to the british gamers way of life. MOST games are released here after the states, and some even cancel the uk release altogether. (Nascar 2011 for example, Yes its a console game, my guilty secret :) ) Yes it is frustracting, trust me ive been there many many times.

I do agree that all games should be released at the same time, in this day and age, and you're right it is being distributed via digital then why the hold up it dosn't make sense.

Threating to pirate the sim however only harms you in the long run, as by not supporting the developers will only have one effect, the series being cancelled.

Its sad that you guys have been shafted twice, once with the collectors edition and now this, Any chance someone official can come and explain the decision or reasoning behind this.


Where we live in the world shouldn't make a difference. WE are all Simmers, so we all deserve the same level of service.

Cowboy10uk

Ah i see what you mean. Yes, staggered releases are indeed a recipe for increased piracy. It might start innocent for many "ah, let's try this game, i'm going to buy it anyway when it's released here", but then they settle for their illegal copy and never get round to buying a legitimate one.
On the other hand, i don't expect the majority of the real fans to settle for a pirated copy even if they download one.

At least that's what i would do if my region's release was delayed, i could be tempted to try an illegal version to try out and get a feel for the game, but i'd still buy a legitimate copy as soon as possible, first of all to support the developers and second, i like collecting boxes of games i really like. But in any case, you are correct that a certain number of people would not upgrade to a legitimate, bought copy.

On the other hand the developing studio is strapped for cash, so maybe they really needed an injection to keep going and that's why they decided to distribute on each region as soon as they can. Maybe it's a "lesser of two evils" kind of thing.