Team Battle tourney! Yes!

When this tourney was over, I was gonna suggest a pairs tourney. But the pairs are determined from the results of this one. So the best would be paired with the worst, and 2nd place paired with 2nd from bottom and so on...

Should keep things interesting, because as others have also noticed, being massively out-matched is zero fun, and we're all here to have fun (I think).

Hello miatar, during that match on saturday you should have messaged me to let me know you wanted to develop your skills on simulator, i would be more than willing to help you get into the whole simulator flying business.

e.g. i fly around without shooting you and you just use me as target practice
(that goes to everyone who thinks they are in need of improvement)

:O And what makes you think that?!?!?! What is this "Fun" you speak of? XD

I understand the frustration that some of you guys may experience from this 1 vs 1 tournament. These matches may affect your morale if your opponent is too skillful for you, but when both participants are at the same level, then the matches really turn into excitement and slippery hands. This tournament's purpose was to answer the question "who is the best virtual pilot out there?" I guarantee that the quarterfinals will be VERY competitive for all who qualify and get that far.

I already mentioned that I was working on another project for you PS3 SIM guys, this new project will be BIG in terms of its complexity, and enjoyable for SIM players of all levels. I have it all figured out, but Im waiting for the Patch to see how well it will work and how many more people it will attract. You guys have been great and the good communication with each other has really made this tournament flow smoothly.

*my goal in the possible next tournament will be to bring out this games true potential (something like what the il2 1946 for pc offers). An opportunity to develop tactics, fly in formation, and be victorious as a unit. I expect mature, serious SIM players. I will have a fair ranking system that concentrates on participation as well as skill. With the introduction of the upcoming inter-game chating option you will be able to talk to your flight group only (even if there is only 6 members of your team online at the time, you can have 2 groups of 3 or 3 pairs). This competition will include invading enemy territory (STRIKE), and capturing it (CAPTURE THE AIRFIELD). "CLASH OF THE CONTINENTS" will be a tournament of 2 teams and the objective will be to conquer Europe (series of maps). Tournament will end if a team conquers all maps or if a team runs out resources or manpower. This is planned for January, and I will explain with more detail until then.

edal, i highly recommend you change your username to one of the following as soon as possible:

A. the professor
B. the mad scientist
C. the sim sage
D. doctor edal... next!

you're an absolute madman with these ideas. while i've thought of similar things, i merely say to myself, "that would be cool." you, on the other hand, take action.

i'd like to visit your lab to see what other experiments you have cooking. i'll bring my lab coat.

signed,

irrelevant

lol, thanks for the compliments, It would be great to see others implementing these ideas to the Arcade or realistic levels, or even to the Xbox 360 console, so if anyone reads this feel free to adopt my ideas, rules, or anything that you may find useful.

*** I want to THANK the "Rest of EUROPE" group, you guys always demonstrate efficacy and efficiency in completing your matches ahead of the due date; 4 days earlier to be exact. (makes me wonder, is this tournament taking longer than it needs to? I really hope that those participants waiting until the last day to complete their matches really have better things to do or use this time wisely, example: to practice) ***

*cough* *cough*
Here's one! I've been pure cannon fodder this tournament. I really feel I'm missing something, cause many times I get shot down in the most embarrassing way, without knowing exactly where the bullets come from.
And watching how people perform manoeuvres and stunts, getting and staying on my six without apparent effort.
I collected some really good advices and also learnt something during these dogfights, but still I'm no match.

@Edal: sorry mate I couldn't go online and play with macademic, been really busy with some uni stuff this week.

ps. I agree with miatar being target practice is not any fun, but still I want to thank Edal, he's done a great job :)

I know I'm too late for this tourney, but in the coming weeks I'd like to get up to speed with anyone online for simulation training. I've returned to this game after hearing that a PS3 patch is getting closer - looking forward to flying in the skies with all of you!

Add me if you wish, i would gladly help you and any others get into the swing of things.

kind regards, Gaz

Sounds fantastic edal, really excited to see this come into action.

And just like irrelevant said Thats one of the best things about you edal, you just do it.

And if i haven't said so already, Thanks mate it really means alot to everyone here and i bet i can say that on behalf of the devs too. Bravo

Week 2 Results
 

*These are the results that I have received up to this day*
** Stats are also updated **

http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/week2all.jpg

** Week 3 Schedule is ready (check first page of thread) **
- this is the last week for groups A and C -
- Good Luck ALL
- Thank you for your good comments :)

Dammit Rhah, I knew you won by a net total of 1. Damn me and my low flying addiction, kissing rivers with my belly and randomly solid trees lol. Good games though, mate, well played :)

Totally. Getting owned by Mirgervin was absolutely no fun. And I suspect the same will happen in a few upcoming matches.

An option to concede a match where it's obvious you will spend the next 20 minutes getting raped might get around this. Maybe extrapolate the results for a small time sample over the entire duration of the match? So, say I got shot down 5 times in 5 minutes (I didn't btw lol [I don't think]) I could concede the match for 20 deaths...

QFmofoT :)

I deleted the rest of the quote, but this sounds very, very exciting. I'm envisioning something like EndWar, but faster moving and less prone to deadlock. When you release the details, I'll see if there's any scope or point to writing a little Windows application so that we can track the progress etc. Maybe even use it to post results, although I think the current screenshot system is pretty bullet proof (barring people forgetting...lol).

Thank god for those tree's!!! Good games though dude, cheers.

I'm liking the sound of this new competition. Look forward to hearing more about it Edal.

So, Haitch40 and the dreaded Mirgervin next eh? When can you guys play? To be honest, this week is going to be difficult for me. The only times i'm available are tonight, probably quite late, and Thursday evening, after 9pm.

Yes Edal this game mode sounds great.
Chat, That is one thing that is missing is to be able to chat with your wingman. It would make flying in formation a whole lot smoother. This is one thing the whole squadron has wanted to do from the get go but with out communication it makes thing very difficult.

im not if some1 takes my place
otherwise 4pm to 6pm every day

There was a guy posted today who was becoming active because of the incoming patch and I suggested he took your place in the tourney as he expressed an interest.

Damned if I can find it though... sorry. Maybe he'll see this and know what I'm talking about...

Damn, I don't finish work till 6pm, so there's no way I can play you at those times.

So, Mirgervin and InfiniteStates when will we play?

Hi there Hrok81,
any chance you got time today, I'll be leaving for Moscow tomorrow and although I'm even contemplating getting a slim ps3 just for that place (spending quite a lot of time there) it's still questionable if the hotel will be able to provide me with an HD TV.

Anyway, if you can it would be great (although not to worry, I've also just stepped in as cannonfodder for the excellent pilots in our group ;) ).

Ciao, MACADEMIC

Any evening during the week (usually after 9pm or so) or all day weekends. Although I'm out tonight but shouldn't be late back... If you have any constraints, let us know, otherwise send me an invite (or I will send you one) and just see when you're online...


EDIT: Just quoting this so it doesn't get lost behind the page break...

I would have to play before 9.. Weekends are fine though!

Now, since the deadlines were on Fridays, when does week 3 end?

I will be online sometimes in the mornings pacific time, and am generally off work by 6pm pacific time weekdays, and on weekends after 6 is almost always good and sometimes during the day too. (trk/irrelevant)

SubaruGaz, you managed to win one against Mirgervin, have a cigar and tell us the story. We all want to know how to beat him...

Today is the last day to report any week 2 results (December 1)

* the match due dates will vary from now on, so everyone please keep informed because WEEK 4 will be the last group stage week for the UK group as well as the week for indirect qualification matches. *

* subarugaz im glad to know you are building your skills back after that long vacation you had from il2. hope to face you on the eliminatory stage my friend, (i wont use the bf109 E-3 for sure :) )

** Steyram_amr vs Maninovka I think this should be a pay per view match :) good luck to you guys

question

* Haitch40, are you saying that you want to quit tournament or be replaced? *

Thanks a lot for that InfinteStates!!

irrelevant, really sorry yesterday. I was out all day, so the guy you messaged was my brother...

If your there tonight we'll play for sure. (kinda have to XD)

oh! it's all clear now! LOLOL

when he sent a message, i read: "this is silence, brother" and i'm like, "uh, yeah, i know." then no response, so i shut down. i did not read it as "this is silence's brother."

LMAO! pure comedy!

see you tonight. ;)

I have my bad days and i have my good days ;)

I really can't say how i beat him though, it's just one of those things 'I fly, I kill'

Yeah me too, im finally getting back on track with BOP after taking a long rest with it.

Oh and yes, i think it would be in the interests of both of us if we didn't touch the E-3 ;)

I will be on and off Wed and Thurs During the day 09:00 a.m. EST and definitley Friday night EST 08:00 p.m. till?

BAHAHAHA Yea, i read the messages and I was like "F**k is he talking about?" :D

O hell yes Dubb, Penor Flight vs Penor Flight. :D Should be fun.

Penor flight squid cival WUR!

good games, silence. too bad i got owned. :(

tbh, i'm starting to realize i stand little chance in this tournament. i simply cannot turn and maneuver like the rest of you. i will likely make a quick exit if i make to the elimination round.

here's to looking forward to squad battles. :)

i would like to quit
but hopefully some1 will replace me
gl guys sad i just couldnt enjoy this one will joing future tornys

Guys if I can delay my matches for the weekend since it is final week I would be appreciative. Need to finish a few projects.

VAS squad for the win!!

So Haitch40 is out? Is there likely to be a replacement?
Mirgervin, the only time I have available this week is thursday night after 9pm (not about over the weekend unfortunately).
Usually I'd go steady on the booze if I know I have a match, but since I'm going to get my arse kicked anyway, I might as well do it drunk..... who knows, my drunken unpredictability might even sneak me a few lucky kills :)

Then I will try to take the day off on Friday. I'm working 2 jobs for the next month, and I don't have my schedule for either beyond Friday. Today I don't have to work until 1pm pacific time. Tomorrow maybe all day, saturday and sunday I'll be off by 5 pacific whether I have to work or not.

I notice the deadline for this week is Sunday, which is only 5 days after the last deadline, that's not going to be easy at this time of commercial frenzy.

FAO P51 aka Reaper1526: your friend list is maxed dude. You wanna free up a slot or schedule a match time?

I will meet you online one of these days after 5 pm your time.

I will be online from now until Friday night. I won't be on sat. and sunday.

Is there anybody to replace Haitch?

I can't just be shooting the clouds you know ;)

I invited someone, waiting for response, if I dont find a replacement for haitch then you will get 6 points.

I've been going over the rules and I noticed that:

5th place group A vs 5th place group C qualifies
6th place group A vs 6th place group C qualifies
7th place group A vs 7th place group C plays 6th place group C, winner qualifies

If I'm not mistaken, this process would end up with 2 extra qualifiers and not 3, since 6th place group C is in two of those brackets. Did you mean 6th place group B vs the winner of 7thA-7thC? If not, is group B's 6th SOL?

Also, if group B is gonna be playing a week 4, how does that affect their points? It's at the point where who else else beats who else is starting to matter... if it's a points week, they'll end up 1-2-3. Or is it a mini-elimination week?

Finally what was the tie-break after week 2 between Maninovka and Mirgervin, since they're equal in both points and kdr...

thanks for asking,

1. Yes, I meant winner of 7th place (group A) vs 7th place (group C) plays the 6th place of Group B.

2. The leaderboard will be organized by points divided by games played. In case of any tie, I will next look at the Kills minus Deaths difference, in case of any tie there, I will look at number of kills.

3. The tie-break after week 2 between Maninovka and Mirgervin, since they're equal in both points and kdr was the number of kills

*** Also, tagemandbagem will now be replacing haitch40 ***
-infinitestates, subarugaz, and rhah will play him this week.

cheers edal, was hoping i wouldn't get those points by default

Tagemandbagem, can you play tonight, after 9pm?
Unfortunately I'm only going to have time to play either Mirgervin or Tagemandbagem, so I'm going to make a tactical concession and forfeit my match with Mirgervin, as i'm 100% sure he would beat me anyway (sorry to deprive you of the kills though mate) and play Tagemandbagem, who will probably beat me, but at least I have a fighting chance.

(If there is a extension of the time before the end of week 3, I'll happily play Mirgervin, but I won't be able to do that until next Monday, sorry.)

Welcome to the tourney dude :) Lets us know when you're good to play...

And Reaper/P51 when do you want to/can you play?


LOL probably a wise move :)

Definitely a wise move,:cool: but I feel a bit bad for depriving him of kills, as it will affect his leaderboard position.
Is there anyway around that Edal86? Maybe we could just give him the 6 points now, and I'll play him as soon as I can and the kill total can be added at a later date? That seems the fairest option.

Don't feel bad - I managed to get him into a 6 player dogfight last night, so his kill quota is doing well and bloodlust should be semi-sated. But yeah, sucks for him that he would get less score than he should for the tourney...

I can play tonight anytime between 9 and 11pm.

im free every day before 9. but after 3:30 (School)

Sorry mate, you're PSN ID isn't shown anywhere... are you Mirgervin or Tagandbagem?

*edit*.. no worries, just checked your last few posts so now I know your Tagemandbagem... cool. Ok dude, send me a friends request and we'll have the match tonight... I might be on earlier, so if you see me online then we can start.

Thanks, I can play most weeknight after 9pm and weekends before 6pm.

Hey are you really Japanese, people have posted from every major world war 2 fighter plane country so far except Japan.

Perfect - that's my timeline too :)

I'll send you an invite when I get bored and cancel this MAG beta update... [pfff 416/1868MB :evil:]

EDIT: Zatoichi is a great film :) Although the final scene is kinda weird...

Nope, sorry.


I passed on MAG. The only thing it has going for it is the player count but the gameplay just doesn't look very inspiring to me. Conversely, I can't stop playing the BF:BC2 BETA. They only made a few improvements but it's made a big difference so far.

The player count is a marketing gimmick and adds nothing to game IMO. It's the same as the massive games on Resistance 2 - you still only feel like any other full 16 or 32 player game.

Yeah I got the BF: BC2 beta the other day too. After a rocky start, I'm loving it. I was a huge fan of the first one. But like all BF games, it's hit and miss as to whether you get a good game. Sucks if your team is full of sniper noobs and the other team know what they're doing... :evil:

But back on topic... I just sent you an invite (I think lol), so let's get it on ;) In an aerial combat way - not a gay way that is...

Oh well. The game doesn't involve Japanese planes anyhow.

I got the MAG beta and it is actually kind of cool, except it is hell of confusing since there is practically no instructions, so it's hard to do what the squad leader says. It's kind of designed like Savage Battle for Newerth, the player of highest rank decides where people spawn and sets their objectives on the tacmap - I think. Mostly all anyone does is run around and fight though.

You don't see anywhere near 256 other players. Only about 3 other squads, and the enemies.

Hrok81 Last call...
 

Hi there Hrok81,

With a bit of luck and the twisting of some arms I managed to outfit myself with a PS3 and a reasonable TV in my hotel in Moscow, therefore nothing should stand in the way now of completing the week 3 matches with you.

Unfortunately, you have neither accepted me as a friend on the PSN network nor responded to any of my attempts to contact you. I have also never seen you online.

Anyway, I'm available and in my understanding we'd have to complete the match rather soon. As suggested before, please message me via this forum or the PSN network.

@Edal86: Not sure what the rules say in case of inability to contact one party.

Ciao,

MACADEMIC

Hrok won't be ignoring you, he's a keen flier - he must be really busy. He hasn't signed into PSN for several days. Have faith - he'll respond :)

Edal, you reckon we can get a quick summary of who's still to play? If it doesn't take you any time that is :)
I've kinda lost track - I think I have to play haitch's replacement, but that I think is from week 2... And I haven't been able to add P51/Reaper... I think they're my only outstanding matches...

Hrok81, when are you going to be online? Mail me to PSN Mage_016

For olife

Hi mate:)
When would you have me play the game. I could maybe today 11 pm.
Or tomorrow at 2 - 7pm and 11 - 12pm.
Please write here or on PSN. Thanks

P.S.- your friendlist on PSN is full:(

I have space on my FL if you want to add me! Ill be on all weekend till 9, just say the word.

Thank you mate, I truly appreciate :)

Sorry to have kept people waiting so long, as Infinite said I didn't even have the time to turn on my Ps3 in the last week or so. Uni and work are getting me busier day after day so, well, here I am.
My apologies if this made you mad macademic, I could not do any better.

I'll be online tomorrow at any time you wish, just let me know, AND sunday from the evening on. Monday is ok as well, but I don't know wether it's too late or not for the tournament schedule.

This counts for everyone who have to fly with me, not just macademic. So if you have time I'll be happy to fly with you asap.
If u been waiting for me and now u're busy and can't play, just let Edal know. You'll get the victories for 3-0.

Sorry everyone for the all this trouble.

Infinitestates,
you will need to play your week 3 opponents as well as MACADEMIC from week 2 schedule (since haitch40 left the tournament in the middle of week 2)

Hrok81,
I understand your situation and since you had already informed me about how busy your week would be I will allow you a few extra days to complete your week 3 matches.

Keep posting suggestions, Im also busy because of semester finals but I will do my best to keep this tournament on track and on schedule.

Tomorrow
 

Hi there Hrok81,

Thank you for responding. Not to worry, I was not mad at you, just a bit under pressure because I tried to step in for someone but have some travel obligations and was not sure if I could arrange things while on the go. This is why I've tried to contact you so hard to get it done.

Anyway, it looks like we're finally going to be able to match. I suggest tomorrow at 10.00 Central European Time?

Looking forward.

Cheerio!

MACADEMIC

Hey, man...I just tried to add the PSN ID in your sig and it still says you have too many friends...

You want to throw some times when you can play out there, and we'll see when we can meet up and do battle? :)

well i just deleted a few guys so you should be able now. Any time before 9 at the weekend is good, you?

Ok, Hrok81 is it possible you to play against me today at noon gmt+2? I have time then I think. If it is not possible then I think I can be online at evening too. Just let me know.

OK cool :) You want to send me an invite? I definitely got room. Your schedule sounds good - although we've got that realistic match tomorrow from 4. You want to play before that? So we'd need to start about 2:30 or so... Unless I see you on before then.

Ok, will do! Thought i already had?

Yeh we do, should be on all day tomorrow, if im not playing IL2 ill be playing Assassins creed 2 :D

News
 

keep working on your matches. there are many who have not played yet.

you have until WEDNESDAY NOW (december 9).

** guys, I need you to play so we can start the indirect qualification **

*** the following need to play:
Irrelevant vs edal86 (2 matches)
dubbinenglish vs philabong2 (2 matches)
silence vs dubbinenglish (2 matches)
0life vs maninovka (2 matches)
hrok vs mage_016 (1 match)
olife vs steyr_amr (2 matches)
hrok81 vs macademic (1 match)
dihno28 vs miatar (2 matches)
subarugaz vs tangenmandem (2 matches)
mirgervin vs reaper1526 (2 matches)
rhah vs mirgervin (2 matches)
subarugaz vs dihno28 (2 matches)

Couple of great games there InfiniteStates. That and the matches with Haitch40 were good too! Hopefully we can be wingmen more often!

Yeah great games man, well played. I enjoyed the team battle we had today, but not the other 2 games. And I find realistic frustratingly difficult to play now after so much sim. Not having control over your flaps is really noticable.

I see you've still got Mirgervin to play yet... good luck with that lol.:grin:

Definately won't have my matches done by today as I've been busy all week with a project :( I'll have to forfeit my matches this week, sorry guys.

can you do them by wednesday?

I can try, but no promises... I really want to do them by today, I'm just weighed down by a big powerpoint project/presentation due tomorrow, so I should be able to.

couldnt get in touch with dubbinenglish either
I'll try n log in tonight at around 12h30 EST - its ur chance guys cause i'll prob b drunk as a sailor then :grin:

I'll try to be on then.

Didn't Silence get 6 more points at the end of week 2?

I'm trying to figure out whether it's better for me if steyr_amr wins or loses... whether silence has 10 points or 16 points might make a difference

yes, silence has 16 points. I have not posted the updated group stats or points yet.

(Silence needs to at least win 3 and tie 1 of his 4 matches from week 3 so that he ends up in 2nd place of Group A, If he wins 3 and looses 1 then whoever has the best kill/death difference, between you and him, gets second place)

yeah, silence beat me in both matches... that accounts for the 6 points.

edit: 2 seconds too late.

hey are you online right now? can you play me?

yes, i'm online... and yes, i can lose to you. ;)

ok, be there in 5 minutes


************************************************** ********************************

"Battle for Europe" Competition (PS3 SIM Players) Enlist Today!

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=11526

To All Participants:

Please check out my other tournament "Battle for Europe" its on a thread titled "Battle for Europe" Competition (PS3 SIM Players) Enlist today!!

** You are all invited please JOIN, thanks.

Hrok, are you online today? And if u are, when gmt?

Overdue match
 

Can anyone who has Olife on their friends list please tell me if he has been on much recently? I can't seem to get in touch with him.

Sorry guys finals work has ended up tying me through the weekend (one of my group peepz is not pulling their weight so I'm picking up their slack). The earliest I can possibly do a match is tues evening. If that is a problem then I can bow out from turney.

Dubb.

Tuesday Evening is good for me :)

KILL HIM NUB!!! XD

mirgervin whan you want to play? I am on now (well will be in a few mins to download the patch :D).

yes, that's not what matters to me though, it's more about the bracketing in the elim round, if things go as expected. Though steyr_amr might lose, which complicates things.

On another note, I don't know how many dogfights you've done since the patch, but the realistic g-forces are going to drastically affect tactics, in particular, there is going to be no more winning dogfights by turning 10-second multiple yo-yos at 350kph nor zooming vertical and pulling a low-radius gravity turn to get the quick angles.

Since it is now so much more realistic, I urge that this tournament be postponed for 1 week or so so that everyone can get used to flying the new planes and figuring out their best control scheme. Otherwise there are gonna be a lot of unconscious pilots out there

Just finished a match with Edal, and from my experience, black-outs in game are far from black-outs... The edges of your screen goes black and the center gets slightly shaded... I took an I-153 at 55- km/h and pulled back on the stick as hard as I could and still couldn't fully black-out, which makes me think it's impossible to actually black-out...

LOL I second tha...zzzzz....splat.

Blackouts will make games more exciting, however, since you dont completely blackout and loose control of your plane like in the pc version I dont think it will make much difference.

What I am worried about is the flight stick control layout, it seems lilke some players are having trouble with this. (Maninovka told me that it is very different and he has to get used to it, he lost against olife by a 7 point difference in both games)

Anyone has this problem, or had it but has now solved it? please help each other

You do lose sight of the target and ground though - it does make a difference IMO. But everyone is in the same boat so...

Yes, that's the point. No more looping around each other at max g, cause you can't see. It's easier to switch direction and lose the opponent, but harder to figure out where the shots are coming from.

Also some of the planes are performing differently. And in order to be able to see, people have to keep their speeds lower or turn slower. This makes the vertical maneuvering more realistic and more dangerous, which affects tactics. For example, in 4 hours today, not one spitfire managed to make a vertical turn and dive on me. They ended up too slow after climbing, making themselves an easy target.

Yes everybody's in the same boat, but it's not the boat everyone was in for most of the tournament. Some players won't even be able to see v1.01 for the next couple days.

attention
 

* Group Stats are updated

* Leaderboard updated

* UK week 4 is ready
(by the way, let me know if you are having trouble with the patch, or need time to get used to it, otherwise, complete your matches by the assigned date please)

* Participants that have now qualified for Eliminatory Stage are:
- edal86
- ar_kozz
- xx-silence-xx
- mirgervin
- subarugaz
- infinitestates
- steyr_amr
- varcus2
- maninovka
- mage_016

(when I have week 4 results from UK group and week 3 results from American Group, then I will be able to post indirect qualification matches)

P-51, when can you play the last matches? I'm good for either tomorrow after about 10pm, or Thursday after 9pm... (Personally, I'd prefer thursday, but its up to you)