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philip.ed 07-02-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 81623)
It is possible. :)


Good news ;) thanks for reading my comments. I really respect that.

Marchochias 07-02-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 81657)
The 109's had a stupid amount of ammo in their machine guns. They had a minutes worth or so. In my opinion, they could just spray and pray a bomber like this or-if they were good shots-focus it all on the engines ;)

Spray and praying with 2 small caliber machine guns just isn't the same as spraying and praying with 8, like the Hurricane or Spitfire.

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In my opinion, they just used the existing models from il-2 1946 but correct me if I am wrong
The original IL-2 for PC game out over eight years ago, the graphical fidelity on the aircraft models is much, much worse than what we've seen from BOP so far.

Look at these screens for example: the first one from IL-2 1946

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/arti...5030440333.jpg

It's an La-5 or La-7, right. Here's the closest BOP counterpart I could find.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen003.jpg

Note the low resolution textures and low polygon model of the IL-2 1946 model, it looks horrible when compared to the high quality BOP model/texture. Notice how much more detail there is with things like the exhaust of the engine leaving a mark on the fuselage, and weathering of the wings. Really no aspect of the game's visuals can be compared fairly to an eight year old game.

Also, wasn't the original IL-2 made by a completely different developer? I don't know if 1C has the rights to assets made for that game.

About your suggestions overall, the reason I don't think they're that useful is because making new aircraft variants with different armaments, different textures, is a TON of work and expense, and to be entirely honest, completely unnecessary expense and work at that. Developers don't have unlimited time and money. They decided to make a model/texture of this Spitfire with this paint scheme and that armament, they aren't exactly going to make another one just because a few people would kind of like it.

Considering how few quality combat flight sims there are (I can't think of ANY other than the original IL-2, so less than 2 in 10 years including this game), it's not as if there are other games doing more than IL2 BOP or something. There aren't any other games anything like it in development at this moment, at least that we've heard about.

peterdegrotere 07-02-2009 07:16 PM

looks so good, if its not edited, or high rest better than in the game

Spitfire23 07-02-2009 07:17 PM

Wow i never even thought to compare the two, thats quite a significant difference between the two and it really shows off how far the IL-2 brand has come

Thanks for that

SlappyDingle 07-02-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchochias (Post 81671)
About your suggestions overall, the reason I don't think they're that useful is because making new aircraft variants with different armaments, different textures, is a TON of work and expense, and to be entirely honest, completely unnecessary expense and work at that. Developers don't have unlimited time and money. They decided to make a model/texture of this Spitfire with this paint scheme and that armament, they aren't exactly going to make another one just because a few people would kind of like it.

I don't understand why they would bother trying to depict period specific battles if they don't care about the period specific planes? They've obviously made a mistake or they're holding the correct planes ransom as DLC content.

It's unfortunate either way...

Marchochias 07-02-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SlappyDingle (Post 81694)
I don't understand why they would bother trying to depict period specific battles if they don't care about the period specific planes?

What, one of the developers himself telling you exactly why they chose the plane models isn't enough? They said they have to choose a balance between historical accuracy and gameplay.

The game is neither an encyclopedia or a time machine. I have no clue why some of you continue to not grasp this simple fact.

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They've obviously made a mistake or they're holding the correct planes ransom as DLC content.
Yes, I'm sure they accidentally made the wrong variant of Spitfire, wasting dozens of hours of work and thousands of dollars because they didn't check the Wikipedia article carefully enough.

/sarcasm

Oh, and didn't Anton just say why they chose the variants? I thought so.

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It's unfortunate either way...
Perhaps for you it is. If technicalities this minor disturb you this much, I shudder to think of how constantly angry you must be at the world in general :D

guiltyspark 07-02-2009 10:36 PM

bf109 G6/U4 = 30mm cannon in nose of the plane which = Amazing accuracy as apposed to leveling up wing cannons for the perfect shot.

Please tell me anton that the BF109G6 with the cannon in the engine is in the game !

Riceball 07-02-2009 11:20 PM

Marchochias, give it a rest.

Anton Yudintsev 07-03-2009 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 81656)
In my opinion, they just used the existing models from il-2 1946 but correct me if I am wrong :grin:

You are wrong :)

irrelevant 07-03-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 81708)
You are wrong :)

Haha! ;)


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