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swiss 12-26-2012 01:52 PM

In the state the product was you can NOT make customers happy. It starts with the system specs - they recommend a gtx260 while ppl even with most sophisticated(!) rigs couldnt play it without stutter.
Online play? Forget it, CTD.
Great, huh?

Now, imagine we all praised the game, do you think sales would have improved?
No, dissatisfied customers would only think we are nuts.

Is clod beautiful? Yes! and it's a friggin shame they cant fix, nonetheless it never worked liked it was supposed to.
It's like a wonderful handcrafted chef knife which is dull - nice to look at, but unable to do the job.
Unless someone fixes it - unfortunately the gave up, sux.
In the end it's all about the money, if you cant find someone to dump more money into it(and potentially burn it), you'll have to abandon it.
Btw; feel free to start a kickstarter project to finish Clod, its a free world.

The video you posted showed Clod in all its glory, really a sad end. Maybe some modders, one fine day...

furbs 12-26-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 490125)
Of course management primarily looks at sales and not forum postings. But OF COURSE an orchestrated campaign of hate is also going to affect sales. So many people have looked at my movies and commented, "wauw, this sim looks fantastic, but I only read online that it was crap, what gives?".

The haters really got what they wanted so dearly, the demise of the franchise, and now they try to pretend they played no part in it. Disgusting.

Frey, i guess all the people who wrote a review must have been in on the "agenda" as well right?

Yer it was perfect out the box, you dont remember these very small problems then...

Epilepsy filter
Massive stutter over land at release
Full screen problems
Having to choose between sound and trees for 3 months
CTD's after 5-20mins for 4 months for over 50% of people
Floating ships
Crap offline campaigns
Non starting hurricanes
Crap AI
Sli...fixed in next driver release...(yer flippin right)



These problems were just made up and anyone who pointed these out were working in secret with 777 in a massive world wide conspiracy.

:rolleyes:

Pudfark 12-26-2012 02:21 PM

Every thing Furbs has said so far...all of it.
You can't turn a "sow's ear" into a "silk purse",
No matter how much time and money you put into it.
My mistake was misspending my money and time,
which has everything to do with this historical folly...

So...I'll be hanging out with the winning team...not the whining one.

MB_Avro_UK 12-26-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 490150)
Your truth is not my truth, and I don't think you have a monopoly of "the truth", even though you present it like that ("that's the truth")

I thought it was fantastic from the first viewing, and it got progressively better with the patches.

Yes, sure, dissatisfied customers should vent their disapproval, but hating the sim and staying on the forums for two years, posting multiple times every day about that dissatisfaction like some of the haters in here?

- That's no longer being unhappy with a product that cost two movie tickets, that's a campaign of hate to make sure nobody else will be able to give the sim a go. What a waste of a life, but then again, it seems those people didn't really have one...

I would really have liked to give Battle of Moscow a go, but the haters did what they could to deny others that opportunity.

Here are the screenies of what we will never see... Oh rejoice, oh happiness, BOM was cancelled!

http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php/...id=2#photoid=2

Must make every hater super-happy... Thanks god Luthier wasn't allowed to bring us cockpits like this... http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...1&d=1340979063


My feelings also.

Now,we have a sim that's as good as RoF. Some may say better.

I've owned RoF since it's release and have bought most of the add-ons. I have no problem at all with RoF. I was flying last night on the new Channel map.

Cliffs of Dover was the future. It was a prototype of a unique and advanced product. It had faults,I agree. But when you raise the bar to the height Oleg went for,there will be faults.

I spent £50/$75 on the Collectors Edition.Far less than I've spent on RoF over all. And both are the best of the genre.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro

SlipBall 12-26-2012 02:31 PM

If the game was released silky smooth, that would indicate an engine that was something for today, but limited for tomorrow. bsure

CWMV 12-26-2012 02:45 PM

This probably did more to kill it than all of the issues discussed here.
http://www.amazon.com/IL-2-Sturmovik...owViewpoints=0

Bullcrapman 12-26-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 490069)
Yes I believe that it certainly factored into the equation that ultimately led to BoMs mothballing.

If it appears that a product doesn't have any support or audience then the shareholders will always go with the safer option.

They don't care about the product only about the money...

Its really that simple, CoDs failure will always be due to it being released in a mess but BoMs mothballing is due to a number of issues and one of them is the reaction of supposed "fans" of flight simulators... so yes its that simple.

Its THAT simple.

Krupi, you have just demonstrated with this post how stupid you are, you cant fool me, I am The Bullcrapman. And you are talking BULLCRAP.

Bullcrapman 12-26-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 490125)
Of course management primarily looks at sales and not forum postings. But OF COURSE an orchestrated campaign of hate is also going to affect sales. So many people have looked at my movies and commented, "wauw, this sim looks fantastic, but I only read online that it was crap, what gives?".

The haters really got what they wanted so dearly, the demise of the franchise, and now they try to pretend they played no part in it. Disgusting.

BULLCRAP, I am the bullcrapman, and you are talking BULLCRAP. We all know that you have no life outside of this game and we are sorry for you, really we are, now stop talking BULLCRAP and stop making those videos.

furbs 12-26-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 490170)
This probably did more to kill it than all of the issues discussed here.
http://www.amazon.com/IL-2-Sturmovik...owViewpoints=0


Well, sure is alot of people in on the "conspiracy" then.

SlipBall 12-26-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furbs (Post 490173)
Well, sure is alot of people in on the "conspiracy" then.


lol indeed....I couldn't play the original Il2 on my rig. Oleg was looking further out to the future, probably 5/10 years for both games


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