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WTE_Galway 12-19-2012 08:33 PM

It's not just the flight sim community that are effected detrimentally by childish forum behavior. Check this link for example:

http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/

Alas, the miscreant conduct of the modern web 'community' has played a large role in this tragic development. The corrosive nature of current behaviour 'on-line' has fatally eroded any enthusiasm to carry on. To be sure, the majority of our faithful readers over the years have been lovely, and have contributed much, themselves, to the study of this wonderful subject-- you will be sorely missed. But, even for all that, it seems impossible to redress the catastrophically negative trajectory of modern society in this present era where fact is decided by popularity, and investigation is supplanted by tedious, baseless opinion. Simply revolting.

ATAG_Bliss 12-19-2012 09:47 PM

Very true.

Just look at all the posts from people showing up now that never posted on this forum while the sim was still being worked on. That should say enough about people's agendas. One individual posted more in this week than the entire time clod was released. Facts are neat, sadly most people could care less about them.

Catseye 12-19-2012 10:08 PM

Sad but strong evidence of the inability of a great number of people to put a statement or question into place without thoughtlessly choosing poor phrasing or not couching the question in terms that will not inflame another.

Others, not having the ability to read that statement or question correctly!

And in particular, the impersonality of communicating online wherein things are said in text that one would not say while facing the individual in person.

Lastly for me, and unfortunately I think, the forums are a watering hole for all species and regrettably, the lower echelon drag the rest down to the most common level of dialogue.

Hood 12-19-2012 10:15 PM

When people understand the limits it is a lot easier. At the outset the moderation of these boards was invisible. I have no idea whose fault that was but it was asking for trouble if it was a conscious decision in the face of such a poorly handled product/release.

You cannot argue hindsight because from almost the word go it was obvious how this would degenerate. I still feel the mods here have some way to go - look at the "No sense to anymore nonsense" thread for an example how to fan the flames. :)

Strong moderation was needed to get past the hand you were dealt with, but moderation went AWOL. Sure you can point at individuals and there's no doubt there are a toxic few, but they could have been culled.

I know moderating is a thankless task but that's my thought anyway. I'm hoping Bearcat carries on as he's started over at the BOS forum.

Hood

Feathered_IV 12-19-2012 11:40 PM

Personal attacks should be allowed, but only if couched in the style of Thomas Mallory or Geoffrey Chaucer. Or possibly pirates...

Fjordmonkey 12-20-2012 04:16 AM

One question: Am I the only one that takes great delight in reading locked thread, especially the reasoning for actually locking them? :P

raaaid 12-20-2012 04:20 AM

yeah i find a sick pleasure watching arguments heat

im not the only one, locked threads atract attention as you can se by the views

guess thats why the romans made the circus :(

JG52Uther 12-20-2012 05:14 AM

Its usually like watching a crash, in slow motion.You don't want to look, but its difficult to look away...
I'm actually hoping it gets a lot quieter here (I think it already is) and people just come here to chat, and talk about CoD, maybe even in a good way!
People are still going to play it, and new people might still need a bit of help sometimes.

Fjordmonkey 12-20-2012 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 489259)
Its usually like watching a crash, in slow motion.You don't want to look, but its difficult to look away...

It's like watching Paradise Hotel or some of the other more idiotic realityshows. You don't want to watch, but you're suckered into it just by sheer curiosity about how moronically idiotic a human actually can be :P


Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 489259)
I'm actually hoping it gets a lot quieter here (I think it already is) and people just come here to chat, and talk about CoD, maybe even in a good way!
;)

One can hope, although I think that the conflict-level will still be significant in some threads :P Can't change human nature, y'know :grin:

Feathered_IV 12-20-2012 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 489259)
Its usually like watching a crash, in slow motion.You don't want to look, but its difficult to look away...

That is how I felt watching sow/clod development from 2009 to 2012. It was just so very painful to see it happening and being powerless to prevent it. At this point I haven't a damned clue how the next one will pan out, and it's a wonderful feeling.


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