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KG26_Alpha 09-25-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter (Post 463507)
Anyone have a photo of the 4 engined Lancaster flying on only the outer port engine.

Yup :)

http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/u...e20engine1.jpg

Al Schlageter 09-25-2012 04:02 PM

That is the one. Thanks!!!

fruitbat 09-25-2012 04:04 PM

great pic!

Does anyone know the story behind it? I'm curious to say the least!

JtD 09-25-2012 04:10 PM

Nice & curious as well!

TomcatViP 09-25-2012 04:11 PM

I have lost an engine in the 110 and made it back too.

Landing was difficult. True.

However I never fly at sea level. That's one of the first safety procedure that a COD pilot shld apply "in case of emergency".

Deck flying = death asap

Use alt for all: safety, SA, and offensiveness.

Don't expect much if you don't hve any alt bellow your wings. COD is great for that.

ACE-OF-ACES 09-25-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JtD (Post 463659)
Groundhog day or not, flying on one engine is an emergency procedure. Doesn't necessarily imply immediate, mortal danger.

Bingo!

Loosing an engine in any plane would more than likely result in an emergency procedure (DUH)

The difference being a twin has options a single does not have! ;)

And the emergency procedure is not even the question!

That was just a tangent topic Crumpp started to take the focus of his initial reply to the original question that implied all twins have to stop what they are doing and start looking for a place to put down..

Which may be the case for the Bf110? I don't know, but based on the P-38 pilot accounts, that certainly was NOT the case.

As noted, a P-38 could do loops while running on one engine.

Which is not to say a P38 pilot would want to dog fight on one engine, it just highlights the silly notion that it is a characteristic of ALL TWINS must stop what they are doing and start looking for a place to put down

But I digress

The question was.. can a Bf110 be flown on one engine?

To which the answer is yes, both in game and real world

kohmelo 09-25-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crumpp (Post 463645)
Wow... Send your stories to Lockheed so they can re-write the Flight Operations Manual!!

Obviously, they got it all wrong and you are right.

:confused:

You are just one of those people who just like to insist that earth is flat even when Columbus came back from america. It written right here in this book you hear! and sun does circle the earth because this book says it!

Now this threat was speculation and discussion about "Is it possible to fly the Bf-110 with 1 engine." Its not discussion did every 2 engine plane have emergency procedure for one engine flight. I could swear that they even had emergency prodecure for 0 engine flight but that does not mean that plane could maintain alt or speed in that condition.

As for manuals: Most manual are written for 90% performance just because part quality varies in different stages of production and part quality is nearly never 100% even in peace time as there are flaws. It would be dangerous if manuals were written for 100% performance because people would try to push it to that what manual states and when failure occures they would blame the manufacor for said failure.

As for this offtopic P-38 discussion there are really many flaws in manuals on that plane. For instance 'best fuel performance boost and RPM.' but then again you would not believe man who was the first to fly over atlantic know anything about engine performance.

As for Crumps 21st century aviation trivia that every plane should fly with one engine for safety. Say that to 1940s pilots flying with HS-129. Plane was nearly too heavy even for 2 engines.
And I really believe that many planes were not at their best conditions back then and would not get a takeoff permit from 21st century officials. No DeIcing, engine maintain schedule overdue, fabrics broken, parts missing, warning lights on, pilot have not had enought rest prior to flight, too much snow/water on runway Etc.

bongodriver 09-25-2012 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fruitbat (Post 463665)
great pic!

Does anyone know the story behind it? I'm curious to say the least!

Don't know the story behind it, but that must be a Lanc B MkII with the bristol engines.

KG26_Alpha 09-25-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fruitbat (Post 463665)
great pic!

Does anyone know the story behind it? I'm curious to say the least!

Propaganda photo-shoot at the time, most likely due to engines being Bristols not RR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 463682)
Don't know the story behind it, but that must be a Lanc B MkII with the bristol engines.

Lancaster B2

This is one of 200 powered by the Bristol Hercules radial engine.
They were built in 1942/43 by Armstrong Whitworth as an insurance against shortages of Merlins



Meanwhile .............................. back to on topic.


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Kodoss 09-25-2012 05:54 PM

1 Attachment(s)
You want to fly single engined?

Here are some specs from a Bf 110 D-E distance manual with 2x500kg Bombs and additionally 2x400l fuel in ventral tanks. Means 2070l fuel.

Release date 21.2.1941
Attachment 10835

Of course you ditch bombs and tanks in an emergency, so fuel would be 1270l max.

Einmotorenflug = One engine flight
Höhe = altitude
Ladedruck = boost
Drehzahl = rev/min.
Verbrauch = fuel consumption
Geschwindigkeit = TAS

ohh and 87 octane.


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