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tintifaxl 08-05-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingblind (Post 451761)
I don't think AI behavior has been changed and it is something people have been asking for. There have been posts setting out how AI can be greatly improved by changing stock settings. But I remember when I first started playing Forgotten Battles how unnerving it was when the enemy icons on the map would all begin converging on me from every side.

I was shocked to see that CloD's AI is worse than IL2:1946 even pre 4.11 (where TD did a tremedous job improving the AI).

I really hope all the grafics engine recoding is finished by now and the devs get to work on the sim aspect of CloD.

Borsch 08-05-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingblind (Post 451761)
I don't think AI behavior has been changed and it is something people have been asking for. There have been posts setting out how AI can be greatly improved by changing stock settings. But I remember when I first started playing Forgotten Battles how unnerving it was when the enemy icons on the map would all begin converging on me from every side.

Ai WAS changed;) Bombers no longer fly like fighters, stupid roll rates fixed, comms implemented, etc

flyingblind 08-05-2012 06:45 PM

Excellent.

bob63 08-06-2012 01:03 AM

Yes Big improvement!!!

salmo 08-06-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Aer9o (Post 451353)
Better, much better, finally I see something of real value here! graphical bugs in 109 sorted, better fps, less stutter . I have a new build 3930k oc at 4,75 GHz with a 680 GTX , I get better performance that on my old I920 with a 480GTX...hope they keep on this "road":) for the future as well! PS: and pls fix those flickering shadows!!!:(

You must be new here right? fps has improved largely because many game features have been turned off or dumbed down. Disabled or dumbed down: No cloud rendering beyond middle distance, no upper level clouds, no weather (heavier clouds/rain etc) rendering, mid-distance shadows now only render as a darkened blurr only becoming sharp at close distance.

robtek 08-06-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by salmo (Post 452014)
You must be new here right? fps has improved largely because many game features have been turned off or dumbed down. Disabled or dumbed down: No cloud rendering beyond middle distance, no upper level clouds, no weather (heavier clouds/rain etc) rendering, mid-distance shadows now only render as a darkened blurr only becoming sharp at close distance.

Do you really believe that the improvements are only the result of omissions and reduced effects?
That stuff was turned off for trouble shooting, not to improve fps!
The easiest explanation is not always the correct one.

jf1981 08-06-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by robtek (Post 452020)
Do you really believe that the improvements are only the result of omissions and reduced effects?
That stuff was turned off for trouble shooting, not to improve fps!
The easiest explanation is not always the correct one.

It surely indeed increased performances too but we would like both all effects and graphics enhancements back and improved performances, plus aircrafts tuned rightly, weather also, and finally, wing tip lights, wingtip smokes, no crash to desktop at all, no framerate anymore beyond what's normal for modern hardware, enhanced and balanced damage model, there is a lack in certain types of ground objects too, and by the way, the mouse view lags, so do the control surfaces, and new aircrafts should be available, certainly ground types in British side are missing.

The current flight model in terms of stall, spin, flutter and so on needs some tuning but is one of the best available I've seen.
That's the first stone along with awesome huge maps.

smink1701 08-06-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tintifaxl (Post 451812)
I was shocked to see that CloD's AI is worse than IL2:1946 even pre 4.11 (where TD did a tremedous job improving the AI).

I really hope all the grafics engine recoding is finished by now and the devs get to work on the sim aspect of CloD.

I think they have improved AI but it still has a ways to go to be as good as IL2 or ROF. It is better but AI still acts a little robotic at times and at times the plane's movement seems a bit jerkey that screams "Game." I can fly ROF and while it's far from perfect, I feel like I'm dogfighting with men, not a machine.

Borsch 08-07-2012 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smink1701 (Post 452113)
I think they have improved AI but it still has a ways to go to be as good as IL2 or ROF. It is better but AI still acts a little robotic at times and at times the plane's movement seems a bit jerkey that screams "Game." I can fly ROF and while it's far from perfect, I feel like I'm dogfighting with men, not a machine.

Please, Rof is a tremendous sim, but AI is pretty pathetic there. Yes it does fly "honest" FM, but its dumb beyond belief. RoF ai is all about spiralling to the ground level and then just keep circling in one direction. Its almost funny, just how one dimensional it is -whether it flies an agile Dr1 or speed demon Spad - it does the same thing ALWAYS. Yes, current clod ai is better (on balance) imo - at least it will mix and match a few different tactics.

Spit AI is pretty smooth now, 109 ai are just a touch jerky - but its worlds better compared to the current steam version CLoD.

justme262 08-07-2012 09:50 AM

I really don't care about AI. Online is where it's at. Human competition is so much better in every way that once you have played online you would never go back to flying offline.
I don't play CLOD or ROF offline cause I just don't get that feeling you get when you are fighting a human opponent that you know is really good pilot. The fear of getting shot down and humiliated and the triumphant moment when you shoot a human pilot down and you know he is good pilot. And you know you were lucky to survive that fight.
I just came back to CLOD after leaving disappointed. The lastest patch really impressed me.


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