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Originally Posted by beepee (Post 434653)

hmmmmn! I have driven diesel trucks since 1956 -have always driven diesel cars-and am 75 years old-I havent got lung cancer -not got bladder cancer -have never fallen off my push bike due to deisel-I ride my push bike every day if I can -the main danger I find are women drivers who have knocked me off my bike 3 times in the last 5 years-so what does the WHO say about them then????

Beepee, I have a lot of respect for the elderly.

But you ou will be suprised to be informed that most smokers do not get lung cancer. That does not mean that smoking does not increase the risk of lung cancer.

BBQ is a similiar case, that also increases the risk of cancer due to the agressive chemicals created by the burning process.

Nevertheless I both smoke and love a BBQ.

A warning does not harm. What you do with that warning then is completly up to you. But just to dismiss those warnings for feeling better or even attack the messenger won't reduce that risk. It is not ment as an attack on your personal way of life.

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 434657)

Aww come on Ace, at least add the impression of substance. You can't argue with semantics, that is no fun <=)

Well all kidding aside..

The only thing sillier than thinking we would be better off without combution engines is thinking any of the worlds problems are going to be solved in a flight simming forum! ;)

Did anyone point out the WHO pig flu scam yet?

No but I just read that China is about to impound every European commercial aircraft on their soil in a dispute with the carbon trading scheme they are trying to start. Never thought I would find myself rooting for red China but I am.

I do love the smell of diesel in the morning. It is my next favorite behind napalm of course.

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 434702)

True, but it is fun to exchange opinions nevertheless, in good or competetive spirit. ;)
That aside, the world won't get rid of the combuistion engine anytime soon. But a start towards more efficient methods has to be made eventually. Combustion engines are terribly ineffective.

When it comes to cancer, everything you can tell is risk. Of course a healthy lifestyle greatly reduces the risk of cancer, but that does not mean you will never get cancer no matter how healty you live.
It is somewhat scary to realize that, after thousands years of civilizations and technology advances, our body are still as vulnerable as ones of Caesar and his legionaries were.

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 434723)

True, but it is fun to exchange opinions nevertheless, in good or competetive spirit. ;)

Agreed 100%

And if everyone realized that..

Than there would be no one here getting upset..

Yet there are those who do

Which leads me to belive they actually 'belive' they are 'doing' more than exchanging opinions in a good or competitive spirit! ;)

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 434723)

That aside, the world won't get rid of the combustion engine anytime soon.

If ever

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 434723)

But a start towards more efficient methods has to be made eventually.

If someone does, be sure the market will than make the move..

Where as the government forcing the move only makes for false fixes

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 434723)

Combustion engines are terribly ineffective.

Well until that day than..

http://www.phrases.org.uk/images/spock.jpg
Live Long and Prosper!

Oh Diesel fumes cause lung cancer, really? *lights his next cigarette*
Shocking first world problems.

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 434618)

Ah I see where you are confused..

Note no where did anyone say anything about torque..

First page.......

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 434517)

Yes but it's better to all get lung cancer and pay for all of the global damage from the oil wars, crop failures, flooding, drought and famine than pander to the socialist climate change green loons who want us to all have efficient, gearless, smooth, quiet, hi-torque hydrogen FCV's with water fit to drink as the exhaust product. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 434618)

As for the picture, it was provided to highlight the fact that alternative fuels are a joke..

As in you will end up pushing your car if your counting on alternative fuels to power it..

Which is not to say alternatives fuels will allways be a joke.. There is some interesting stuff going on with alge based deisl fule production..

The point of all this is the goverment can not force it to happen

I am all for the goverment funding investagative projects into alternative fuels, what I dont aprove is them forcing it on people.

It is hard to know where to begin when somebody is as ignorant as you on this subject, technologically and politically, but I can give you the benefit of the doubt that you may just be in the pay of an industry which would not benefit without change. You could well be brainwashed by them, or just be an idiot.

I don't expect you to be able to answer this but could you please remind us all what the most abundant element in the Universe is?

My favourite remark on this subject is from the Young Ones:

Rick (to hippy Neil): Don't you ever sleep?
Neil: Sleep gives you cancer man. Everybody knows that!

Only slightly less funny, someone has compiled a website listing the Daily Mail's (Brit tabloid scare mongers) attempt to classify absolutely everything known to man as either a cancer cause or cure (and sometimes BOTH at the same time)

http://kill-or-cure.heroku.com/